and there has actually been complaints about the noise at 22 hyde already. and i don't know if he is aware of that yet, and that is documented and that is unclear that if the space at 222 hyde is appropriate for a poe. and whether it is clear is that there have been, and continued to be some serious missteps by the applicant as shown by not having a real battle with his neighbors until a full year after he has begun this project and this may be that he has a little experience in running a bar in san francisco and this kind of a project. so, you know, with that i will take any questions that you may have and i thank you for your time and i know that this is a long one and thank you for bearing with me. >> thank you for being here captain. >> i also have the e-mails that i would like to submit if i may. >> yes, please. >> i will take commissioner moshoyannis? and then any others after that. >> so, one of the conditions listed here is and we discussed this two meetings ago, the whole notion of stopping sound at midnight. and there did not seem to be any kind of

>> commissioner hyde? >> yeah. i was just wondering, i know that during the big holidays you are trying to get the parties to come in earlier. and start registering earlier, and i just wondering how that was working going into now that we are in the full holiday season. >> and have the people been applying earlier? >> well, you know, i don't know what i don't know, so i guess that i can't say. >> okay. >> but, i am trying to clear that out and the longer you wait the harder it is and the meaner i got. >> because it over whems the staff that everyone came in the day before. >> right and it does not imply very good party planning, and permit planning. is the day before. >> right. >> either. just saying. >> applications are up? or down? >> no, they are pretty much in the same place. and again, like we don't have to process places that have fixed coe or that type of thing and typically we see the folks who want to go an extra hour or two on new year's eve and we get those and we get these random, events in places that

. >> commissioner hyde we have quorum president tan indicated he'll be absent this evening and have not heard in commissioner perez but for the record he's absent. >> moving on to item one public comment commission. there will be no separate discussion of these items unless a member of the commission, the public, or staff so requests do we have any public comment? >> good afternoon, commissioners i just want to say thank you because the entertainment commission office is great people that work in there they return phone calls and e-mails so i just wanted to say thank you for keeping a very good office. >> thank you. >> thanks. >> that's excellent our staff never gets accolades. >> do we have any other public comment seeing none, public comment is closed. we're moving on to to item 2 which is reviewing and approving the minutes do we have minutes from august 1st that must be continued and september 5th but we can talk about october twig all i move to bifurcate the minutes from august 5th and september 16th. >> i second commissioner frost commissioner moshoyannis abstain. >> commissioner

that mccallister owns. >> okay, thank you. >> commissioner, hyde, do you have something? >> all right. no? >> well, go ahead, commissioner? >> provided that we give you this permit and could you explain to me, how we are going to fix the outside, with the people, and do you have the security to help you out. >> and we have, and it is fixed and i mean to... and it has gotten better and they are just so nicer and it is harder to convince the people that i have the right to stand on the street, you know, and then if, and then have you to have the door guys come on and say that you actually have the right because the police told us, you know, i don't know how legal that is, you know, the aclu is going to come out or who. >> and with the permit now, and the good neighborhood policy, you are responsible 100 feet from your door, you know? and so we have to clear. >> all the way down to (inaudible). >> you know, whatever, and you know, and a certain amount of responsibility, and i have no problem doing it. >> it is when you run into the people and say, hey, i am a lawyer, for so

commissioner hyde? >> yeah, if i could speak to that. and i think that truly the only reason that you would have issues on that street is because there is one person and they are a target and i think that by opening the street up to more business and more foot traffic, that that will only be helpful. and just because i lived there i noticed that if i should have to walk down that street and there is literally like, no one, and it is going to be nice to have the foot traffic and that will actually help and help the petty issues that are happening there. >> thank you. >> all right. any other comments from commissioners? if not, you can have a seat. >> thank you, thank you for your time. >> thank you. >> is there any police comments on this? >> or concerns? >> i don't see any in it. >> no. >> president tan. >> i apologize. >> vice president hyde and commissioners and lieutenant from the san francisco police department, just quickly because the issue of lighting was brought up and i want to speak because there is an opportunity to kind of sh

. >> hyde. >> here. >> per es. >> here. >> president tan. >> here. >> and commissioner joseph is still recuperated and so she is excused. >> so, we are going to go ahead and start with the first item on the agenda which is the public comment, on any items, related to the business of the entertainment commission, but is not currently agendaized. is there any public comment at this time? >> we will move on item two approving the minutes from the fourth. >> i move to approve. >> there say motion and a second? >> second. >> wait, one. >> the motion and a second. >> perez. >> abstain. >> lee, aye. >> frost. >> aye. >> tan. >> abstain. >> moshoyannis. >> aye. >> we are going to move to item three which is the report from the sound inspector. >> it has been a couple of weeks since we have been here and so i was out of town and so i really did not have anything, and i spend a lot of time on, and so i will go on to the inspector and you guys have a preference to speak first? >> okay. >> and good evening, commissioners. a few short notes. and i see a couple of sections, one is the weekend and it

and so, before, and as commissioner hyde mentioned when the task force is working on this plan, there is no such thing as an llp it exists in name. and it did kind of exist in concept, at some point as accessory entertainment, right? and so there were discussions by the point that i got involved we were actually talking about individual land use and where they are permitted and how they are going to be treated. and we did consider them at that time, but just as accessory entertainment and we also came down was that they for the most part was treated like entertainment which is they are permitted south of harrison street with the exception of being fulsom street and because that street has a lot of established restaurants, and arts and types of uses where an llp, you know, would seem to fit in better. and it was permitted there, but the other districts north of harrison street ended up not being permitted for llp and that was the way that it was presented and that was the way that it was adopted and the way that is exist and it exists today. and you know, since that, since the adoption

>> aye. >> anybodisinger moshoyannis. >> aye. >> commissioner hyde? >> i am going to say no. >> and president tan. >> aye. >> that motion passes. >> that is great. >> and so, that will be heard again in two weeks. hopefully you heard all of the comments and you can address them. >> as always. >> we do have one more applicant here today. >> yes we do, this will be the lindsey schott doing business as proxy and they give you a hand out that you can look through and this is that outdoor space that is been there in the haze valley for about four years, and they have the ice cream place and the coffee place and they have kind of pop up shops and that sort of things and they are seeking a limited live per permit and it is unusual it is the first one where there are no walls or ceiling and we have done the hub, and there are three months, sort of increments and the sort of a schedule and they would like to do this ongoing. >> and hi. i am douglas and i am the principal of the architecture and design and our firm is the creator of proxy and we are the operato

. >> great, commissioner hyde, have you something to say? >> i am just really excited and i live in the neighborhood and i have often said that why are they not pulling these kids from the city college right down the street and stay into these businesses, through the limited live. and so i am glad to see something like this happening in the area. >> great, thank you. >> and commissioner perez. >> thanks for come ng and i also live near ocean avenue and we are excited to see that there is this movement to have the entertainment in that area. and i was just wondering what type of music that you plan to do? >> well you know being born and raised in san francisco, that the music that the people produce and can do and it is huge. and so, one of the things that i feel that the ocean avenue association wants to push is jazz and they want to do that and we also got approached for the karaoke which is not music, but it is. but we just want to give the students things to do. and i mean, that it is really important, and it is like i said, it has been f

commissioner hyde? >> aye. >> commissioner lee. >> aye. >> moshoyannis. >> aye >> commissioner frost. >> aye. >> tan. >> aye. >> >> the motion passes, congratulations look forward to watching some films there. >> all right, so the next item is item 7 on the agenda, commissioner comments and questions. >> i am sorry we have... >> item. >> sorry. >> and that would be chamber's sean manchester doing business as chambers and they want to amend a place of entertainment to allow for outdoor use but the applicant has requested that this be continued. >> so, any motion in >> motion to continue. >> so moved flt >> second. >> and okay, so the same house same call? >> yes. >> all right. >> now we are oit em 7, sorry i just skipped over that procedure. commissioner comments and questions? any? >> commissioner hyde? >> yeah i just would like to say yesterday was world aids day andvy been hiv positive for 26 years and i would just like to remember the people who have gone before. >> thank you. >> commissioner frost?

story thatlia is the caroline hyde has been following. both are moving higher and relates to brazil. people familiar are telling bloomberg there is an offer for the number two mobile business. what does this have to do with italian telecoms? it is telephone at -- telecom italia with it. you see that in the share price. owner announced nine-month profits this morning in line with estimates so far. what they are saying about training -- training is interesting. andlook at revenue of december. company is trying to paint a picture of something recovering a bit. it was helping to offset some of the weakness. apparently, it was pretty warm in autumn. >> freezing this morning. here are the top headlines. the u.s. stocks slide the most since october. the demand forecast drops. the nikkei and the shanghai composite drop and japanese equity markets are led by exporters after dropping the most. recovery after a a hitting a low yesterday. yearrowth will fall next to the lowest level since 2003. sayshile, the oil minister the market will correct itsel

caroline hyde is at the touch screen. >> thank you very much, guy. yeah, a little bit red on the open. flat on the ftse 100. off by .10%. what blowout numbers we saw yesterday from the united states. third quarter g.d.p. 5%. beating every single economist out there that we surveyed. 75 we got the news from. none of them thought it would go as high as 5%. clearly we're seeing the fastest growth in g.d.p. for the u.s. in more than a decade, since 2003. will that spill over to the rest of the global economy? next year, dow jones, hitting 18,000 points. a record high. stocks have been rallying since the middle of last week, since the federal reserve said don't worry about it. we'll keep interest rates near zero for at least the first quarter. all of this good news could get tongues wagging in terms of interest rates will come down. coming off that high dollar index. it has been a phenomenal performance that we have seen in the dollar index. check that out. more than 12%. clearly that is pretty phenomenal growth that we have seen in the dollar index. the

caroline hyde is here with more. ask coalition of independent ,inemas signed a position expressed their interest, got in touch. sony thought, how can we get this film out? 300 the others will be showing this film on december 25. these films have been ready and waiting to go. alamo, they are based in austin, texas. also, plaza in atlanta. atlanta police say they are aware and they are going to be monitoring the situation. the whole reason "the interview" was pulled because of cyber threats that maybe you would be in danger if you were viewing this particular film. many started to feel that we have backed down to terrorists, so suddenly we've got to change. hundreds more cinemas might be lined up for the next week as well. seth rogen, the guy who wrote the film, has spoken out on twitter, saying the people have spoken, read him has prevailed. he is saying that "the interview" will be shown at theaters willing to play it. >> talking of influences on this event. the president of the united states, before he decided to he

here with more is caroline hyde.get more from matt campbell on the vodafone-liberty global story. caroline, let's kick it off with you. is this the winning offer? >> we think it coulding. once again, patrick willing to splash the cash, and he's upped his offer by 5%, so 7.4 billion euros is the amount he's offering for the portuguese assets of oi. interestingly, that is going to be bigger than the offers from other private equities, but it seems as though he's gone exclusive, manage to woo them in that respect. and he upped the amount by saying, look, it includes half a billion euros in revenues related to the future of portugal telecom. this is what's so fascinating. now it allows oi to focus more in south america. it's going to be focused on potentially even more consolidation, even more deals in brazil, which is what the biggest countries or telecoms in that terms of that particular market. getting out of portugal, they're hopefully getting a wad of debt to pay down debt. this basically changes the game for oi, be

let's get to caroline hyde. in theil sales helping u.s., but it looks as though the warm winds from asia aren't going to flow to europe. we are expecting another down day. barclays calls it oil lead to volatility. check out the fix. it's going to be the worst week in two months. we see the ftse 100 down. we wait for the dax to open. the oil important number of oil continuing to decline. is relentless. that's what is fixating on investors minds. below $60. 59.38. the 10th week of declines in oil prices since october. there seems to be no end inside. iran saying we could see prices below $40 a barrel. some ways to go yet if you're looking at europe. up by 3/10 of a percent. keep an eye on the euro. we are keeping an eye on the ecb and what they are going to be thinking. yesterday it was about the announcement of 130 billion euros being picked up in cheap loans by banks. refinancingrgeting operation. take it back one notch. it is the ltro. the payback will give us an idea of the net liquidity. how much cheap money,

. >> great commissioner hyde >> do you have a backdoor >> that hasn't been a problem in the past. we have somebody who rented our space and apparently one of their guests had opened the back door. now we have signage on there not to be opened. there the house manager for all of our events and before the event summary rents out for private event, we very sternly told him not to open that door >> i just want to ask about the history of the complaints. has been going on for your four years there were the more recent? >> i would say recently it's more aspirated >> love you change anything you're doing? >> based on the most recent complaint, now we've rented on mac's speakers to lessen the sound and we bought the speakers -- we don't use this because of milwaukee and we read speakers and use stands so it's right on the dance floor. we put on some sound absorbing equipment rack foam i guess you would say. then we checked the sound levels. >> soundproofing like the phone without you meant >> yes, guess the cheap stuff. >> are you checking [inaudible] with an iphone >> yes that's our unsc

yes commissioner hyde aye commissioner [inaudible] president can aye >> will move those long >> i alsoant to welcome back commissioner joseph i do not get that to at the beginning but i know you been going to a lot of stuff so it's good to have you there. >>> item number three report from the doctor and the staff. should have good evening again. i can use this one. i am super happy to report to you about a piece of legislation that i put the press release on your paper there from supervisor read that was introduced today. it basically what they're calling the first and the nose patient to birds are like the new legislations. it's a piece of legislation we been working on for a few months now. if something certainly that's been on our thoughts here for a very long time. it's finally something that turn from fear to action. i'm really pleased about it. something that again i didn't give you all the actual legislation. if you wanted am happy to e-mail you a copy. i do have some here but essentially what it does, it requires like notification when folks move into residential properties. it