in 1824 in hyde park chicago these two brilliant kids wanted to commit the perfect crime so they found a 14 year-old boy and killed him and drove him to indiana to put the body in the drain pipe one home and played cards called the family of the child and said they needed the ransom they're very pleased with themselves and they thought they had gotten away with it but three days later someone dropped their glasses in they traced them in the family's hired famous attorneys who the next year when on literally 90 years ago today and at the end there was the 12 hour summation that he was basically arguing for life in prison and he did succeed but the judge said it was his view not the argument and it was right out of that determinist playbook why did they kill him? of germany or spite or hate they killed him because they were made in that way they were natures victim's. i'm sure you remember this from philosophy that the notion of terminus and that he jacked we perform criminal or otherwise follows the cause and from the same conditions as a result will flow every time. again talking of al

all is a coherent one and that gets us back to our boys. 1924, everyone knows the story in hyde park, chicagohe swede to brilliant kids wanted to commit the perfect crime so they found a 14-year-old boy and killed him and drove him to indiana, put his body in a drain pipe, went home and played cards, called the family of the child's and said they needed ransom and we're very pleased with themselves and thought that they had gotten away with it. they didn't. three days later one of the drop their glasses and they traced it to leopold and loeb and their families, and famous attorney clients, who the next year when john to inherit the wind. so it was a monthlong trial, literally 90 years ago, today, and at the end of its there was a 12 hour summation, basically arguing for life in prison as opposed to hanging. he did succeed although the judge said it had to do with their use and not his argument. the argument was right out of the determinist playbook. in other words -- i will tell you what he said. why did they kill little bobby franks? not for money, not for spite, not for hate. they killed hi

now in 1924, i think everyone probably knows the story on hyde park chicago.se two brilliant kids wanted to commit the perfect crime so they found a 14-year-old boy and killed him and drove him to indiana, put his body and a drain pipe, went home and played cards, called the families, the family of a child and said they needed the ransom. they were very pleased with themselves and thought they had gotten away with it. well they didn't. three days later, probably one of them drop their glasses and they traced it to leopold and loeb. their families hired famous attorney clarence darrow who the next year went on to inherit the wind. so it was a monthlong trial and in fact literally 90 years ago today and at the end of it, there was a 12 hour summation by clarence darrow. he basically was arguing for life in prison as opposed to hanging. he did succeed although the judge said it had to do with their youth, not his argument. darrow's argument was right right out of you call that determines playbook. in other words while i will tell you what he said. why did they ki

> well again, i spent seven years in hyde park, so i'm not that surprised to discover that michelle obama might... >> hinojosa: okay, hyde park, south side of chicago where barack obama and his family lived up until they moved to the white house. it's where you lived for seven years. it's where i actually spent, you know, 20 years of my life growing up. >> that's right, that's right. >> hinojosa: strange little place, but hyde park and michelle obama because... >> so michelle obama was working at the university of chicago during my years there. she was a fixture in the neighborhood. barack obama was my state senator. he was my senator. he was my neighbor just around the corner at a condominium complex. you know, i'd see him running at the... actually, he'd lap me running at the lake, because i run very, very slowly. it's much more like a walk with my arms bent. so in many ways, i think those of us who weren't intimate friends of the obamas but were sort of just in the orbit often saw michelle as at least equally the star if not more the star. she has a kind of graciousness and a bigness of her personality that never... it never overwhelms the peopl

hyde park. the university of chicago's 155 colleges and universities across half under federal review. the person or persons to put up the right this list says they're trying to protect the community. even if the university will. will not. thrusting them into a debate that has been simmering for some time. i probably have to think about it more. the names of 12 men accused of sexually harassing peters was posted anonymously on line by concerned citizens. >> the page has since been taken down. there are reportedly flyer circulating on campus. not only listing names but the class is that therthey're scheduled to graduate. i really applaud the people who did this. i think it is serious and i think it took a lot of courage. >> a student studying linguistics. she hopes to when they go to law school. she was also sexually assaulted by a fellow student. she filed a title 9 complaint which led to the federal government reviewing university responses. they give survivors a way to hold them accountable and get some sort of justice. i do not think it is fair that women have to think about protect

chicago has surfaced online. tonya francisco joins us *live in hyde park with more. >> in this orientation week here at the university of chicago. new students and their families are getting quite the welcome with news of this list. first reported riposted on the website jezebel yesterday afternoon. the list made up of 12 men who have been accused of sexually harassing and or sexually assaulting her peers. it was posted anonymously on line over the weekend by " concerned citizens ". they claim they're keeping the community safe from people known to commit levels of gender based violence that the university won't. the page has been taken down but there are reportedly flyers. the flier listed the names of six current and former students and after each name the class their schedule to graduate in. an east each is assigned a color code. read the most severe. the university of chicago is one of dozens across the country currently being investigated for its handling of sexual assault cases. the university would not comment but it wouldn't refer to a press release from last week in which it says it is committed to preventin

chicago. prompted a last minute demonstration on the hyde park campus. >> the group that first posted what is being called the hyde park west says it is not a rapist or rather individuals sued one friends about because of troubling behavior. >> almost 200 students marched silently. an outdoor movie screening. all in response to a threat posted online. >> and was pretty powerful. the organizer to pull together the march in a matter of hours as it refined to a message posted wednesday morning by the vigilante group. they were responding to the weekend post. named current and former students who they say are known to commit to various levels of gender based violence. if total in the name of a student activist who is also essential so survivor. she has denied doing so. the posting said feminist social justice of warrants need to be reminded who is boss. this action was not in support of the list. many people who were here did not support it. and is never okay to threaten. >> under federal review for handling of sexual assault cases. says they're working with law- enforcement authorities concernin

chicago day in and day out. and the violence has an upper crust areas like hyde park where the obama family has its own. retired army officer ruth thomas goes there every day to work as a school security guy. this. is a very built up area. here. the president. the nice neighborhood. gangs don't care. i park's public high school brought in an army veterans group of the iraq and afghanistan wars like rules students around the school perimeter. everybody noticed you're. not doing is fretting you know some attorneys. very bright. school. at two thirty to school weekends for two thousand three hundred students the twenty five member veteran squad takes up positions outside their job watching over a half mile of sidewalk looking for any signs of trouble and keeping the high schoolers safe. hello ladies. this is patrol type information so i right now i see these three people plus the two across the street so no one is left alone. just about everybody's assess but. now be a military trained for that we do trained to spot. hundred thousand students attend chicago public school many of them walk back home it can

chicago day in and day out. and the violence has an upper crust areas like hyde park where the obama family has its own. retired army officer ruth thomas goes there every day to work as a school security guy. from the area is a very built up area. here. the president. nice neighborhood not to cry. i parks public high school brought in an army veterans group veterans of the iraq and afghanistan wars like rules protect students around the school perimeter. just. to survive go to these folks. nothing is freddy you know some attorneys here's a. very bright. school. at two thirty to school weekends for two thousand three hundred students the twenty five member of veteran squad takes up positions outside their job watching over a half mile of sidewalk looking for any signs of trouble and keeping the high schoolers safe. hello ladies. this is patrol type information so i right now i see these three people plus the two across the street so no one is left alone. and i guess you can say just about everybody's assess but . no been military trained for that you trained to spot. four hundred thousand students attend

chicago... >> guest: right. c-span: ... and then somebody going to hyde park and the rest of them going up to lake forest or some place like that. had--do--do you have that actual experience? >> guest: no. no. this is sort of an imagined--i mean, i--i--it's like a lot of things in the book. it's something you're familiar with. you write about the world you know, and i'm in this world, but on the one hand, you exaggerate for comic effect. and then you hear a lot of stories as you're doing your reporting. you try to get all the--the reality in there. c-span: how old are you? >> guest: i'm 38. c-span: married? >> guest: yes. c-span: how many kids? >> guest: three. c-span: how old are they? >> guest: nine, six and one. c-span: and where do they live? >> guest: we live right here in the district. c-span: what is a man at your age with a book and a column and all that and appearing on jim lehrer's show and other places--what's your ambition? where do you go as a bobo? >> guest: well, i don't know where i go as a bobo. i'd like to go out to suburbs, i suppose, as a b

chicago students for posting a list of students accused of sex crimes. that sparked an overnight protest against those threats. tonya francisco is live in hyde parkya? >> as you point out, the march was in reaction to an on-line threat. a group that distributed a list of men accused of sexually assaulting and harassing students in the past here. about 200 students and activists and other members of the community should up overnight to the march. the organizer says she began organizing it yesterday at 5:00 p.m.. comes after a group, you eat a hack into some student club website and posted what it called the real list saying its mission is different than the first list published over the weekend and posted in bathrooms around campus. you see a says their list is intended to keep the hyde park community safe from people who publicly accused other students of committing gender based offenses without any proof. also a photo and the name of a student that is says claims that the list warned other students about the men who are accused, not necessarily tried but accused of sexual assault and in the posting is a feminine social justice warriors and other