the hydro frac, the earthquakes would typically be less than 9.22. and there would be lots of them. and they're not really a safety concern. it's really the injection of the dispose -- of the fluids that have to be disposed of that are a consequence of the production operation that has the potential to trigger earthquakes. and i think i just made my last point. is this a significant phenomenon in the united states? this dwraf, i'll try to walk through with you to -- it is a very significant phenomenon in the united states. although it is localized. and, of course, the earthquakes have not been all that large. but what my colleague bill elsworth has done is a very simple exercise, which is simply to count the number of earthquakes. and they're counting all the earthquakes in the central part of the united states between these two bars that are larger than 92.3 from 1970 through most of last year. that -- this is -- count is not representative of the size. it's just the number of earthquakes of any size between '92 and '93. and what you see here is a fairly constant rate of earthquake

or the epa's attempt to regulate hydro frac-ing. >> yeah. >> the real war on women is surfailing theke that even rick santorum's wife said well he won't do these things. so you know they are insane. >> you brought up citizens united one of the things that the event tonight is about, and the supreme court obviously is right in the center of this race, they are about to decide on healthcare and immigration, and they have gotten to politicized, haven't they? >> culture shifts on a pendulum and it swings far to the left and far to the right, and in the case of the supreme court, there are many on the far right who say that the warren court swung too far to the left and i have my opinion of opinion with that but the roberts court shows the conservative movement swinging far too far to the right. and that's one of the important things about this presidential election is that it never seems to translate to people. >> right. >> remember, you know, clarence thomas is going to be there for ten, 20, 30 more years. >> right. >> you have to -- elections have consequences, and you have to really r