and high-yield corporate bond exchange traded fund to illustrate your affinity for junk debt, hyg, the ticker, up 4% plus the dividend pup still like these? >> we still like them. we still have holdings in both of them-- generally in both of them. we don't have direct exposure to the indix. we tend to do that in our own priority funds. the idea is still there. last year, we got a bigger bang for our buck from that fixed income risk taking than from the defensiveness in equities. but that could either way, and we think that focus on the middle of the risk spectrum is advantageous versus the two extremes of traditional equities. >> tom: you mentioned you don't have direct exposure to the high-yield exchange traded funds. what about the two equity uz mentions? >> the two equities we are direct exposure to. >> our friday market monterguest is jason pride. >> thanks for having me. >> susie: between twitter and facebook, the way we communicate keeps evolving. this week lou's been thinking about connecting versus social networking. here's author and educator lou heckler. >> there was this sto

and high-yield corporate bond exchange traded fund to illustrate your affinity for junk debt, hyg the ticker, up 4% plus the dividend pup still like these? >> we still like them. we still have holdings in both of them-- generally in both of them. we don't have direct exposure to the indix. we tend to do that in our own priority funds. the idea is still there. last year, we got a bigger bang for our buck from that fixed income risk taking than from the defensiveness in equities. but that could either way, and we think that focus on the middle of the risk spectrum is advantageous versus the two extremes of traditional equities. >> tom: you mentioned you don't have direct exposure to the high-yield exchange traded funds. what about the two equity uz mentions? >> the two equities we are direct exposure to. >> our friday market monterguest is jason pride. >> thanks for having me. >> susie: between twitter and facebook, the way we communicate keeps evolving. this week lou's been thinking about connecting versus social networking. here's author and educator lou heckler. >> there was this sto