. >> dan hynes is the comptroller of the state of illinois, its paymaster.ly has about $5 billion in outstanding bills in his office and not enough money in the state's coffers to pay them. he says they're six months behind. how many people do you have clamoring for money? >> it's fair to say that there are, you know, tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of people waiting to be paid by the state. >> so how are these people getting by if they're not getting paid by the state? >> well, that's the tragedy. people borrow money. they borrow in order to, you know, get by until the state pays them. >> they're subsidizing the state. they're giving the state a float. >> exactly. >> and who do you owe that money to? >> pretty much anybody who has any interaction with state government, we owe money to. >> that would include everyone from the university of illinois, which is owed $400 million, to small businessmen like mayur shah, who owns a pharmacy in chicago and has been waiting months for $200,000 in medicaid payments. then there are the 2,000 not-for-prof

hynes has clearly indicated an interest in programming the roof garden. they have interest in creating a -- an association of owners. they want volunteers to organize an organization of stakeholders and provide funding they have clearly said that they will not be paying for it. we do not have any idea not only who would be responsible for funding, we do not have any idea about the management of the park. park and ride has not volunteered yet, and probably they will not. it we might have a green roof, but not a roof garden. this goes to the question of whether or not a roof garden 70 ft. up in the air is up for discussion. i want to get to the core of the commitment for the transit center, for the tower being the catalyst not only for the park, but by way of public access in the form of vernacular or wherever with public transit that is focused on transit, but also with the office. i believe this needs to be clarified and committed prior to this entire plan being approved because we are approving a plan with the centerpiece missing, that we will have a ver

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