looked at him and i said you will never know. [laughter] >> ed for example hadn't been in the simulator at all. it was my job to land and i had done hundreds of these things and i knew that i could get down maybe not exactly where we were supposed to but i could get down close to it. i would have at least been able to take a look and then made a decision. >> fair enough. >> mission accomplished. tell me about what you did as he remembered? >> of course the first feeling was one of tremendous accomplishment if you will, tremendous sense of realizing that not long ago i was grounded and now i am on the moon. there was that a sense of self-satisfaction i think immediately but then dad went away because we had a lot of work to do but i will never forget that moment. another moment that i will never forget is we had set up some of our equipment and had a few moments to look around, to look up in the black sky, totally black sky even though it was shining on the surface, no diffusion, no reflection. totally black and seeing another plan

i said, what are you doing here? i need somebody to jump my vehicle and fix my car, lady hello. 2 very close to a job a who wouldn't one of my like you drive the me out and fight it bonnie passion inside me. of course there's no rosy. the girls, they are from different ethnic groups and then you don't different outside you about different types from all different vulnerable of trying to bring hope they believe that there's not that full siblings life and the minute i believe that there is no 2. there's no personal lives we can set up a garage on the high street. i believe that's almost the oh i was i don't know the photo, doesn't it? all the girls in the sense around live both states. they come to the export in like to take the see already come class. let charles from the technical college college of technology. they are the one that comes in to take them on this policy. and at the end of the program there, right? national nice. i'm national call, not tech. no, there may supply to fit your supply from this point, your

right after that, i talked with him and he said do you think i need to get back there and i said yes. we talked about the speech. there was a discussion about some people wanted him to declare war that night. and i think some people were disappointed that he didn't. he clearly was in a war mindset. we decided that the primary mission that night was to reassure a badly shaken nation step he did not declare war that night and we felt mission was one of reassurance. it would pay off. secretary rice was in my office and mica medications people, everybody was giving ideas and lines. i didn't know how i pulled together a speech. >> i want to say he agreed that he should not declare war. the one thing i remember asking him was about that phrase that if you harbor a terrorist, we will treat you as a terrorist. i said given that you want to see about reassurance, do you want to say that tonight? that was the one thing he felt he had to say immediately, that that couldn't wait. that was a policy decision. it was his decision and he said i want you to run this task and i did. i talked to them an

i almost said no. my boyfriend was like, you have to say yes to this. >> i can imagine both in subject matter but also that it had won every award there is. >> i said oh my god, i'm going to mess this up. but it was such a great experience. i am glad i accepted it. it was awesome. >> anthony, do you want to hop in and tell me if you were a comics reader as a kid and how you felt when you saw the finished product of the congressman's life in graphic novel form? >> absolutely. i never once picked up a common book ever. i watched a whole lot of cartoons and my aunt used to always make us read. and probably in older life, in my 20s i was working with a guywho read comics all the time . and they were just around and i would pick it up and read it. use a silver surfer back in the green room i kind of was dating that because i worked on the beach for seven years and i was one of those guys where he serves, i kind of dig it but when growing up, i used to watch cartoons and stuff like that but when you look at a

i think this is a process. that's why said at the front end that although we got off to a very fast start with the first piece of legislation, i don't expect this to be done and asked be in a position we can look back and say okay, did we get it done? into basically the end of the year. i don't mean the vote on the two pieces of legislation related to the economy. i think it's going to take some time. and look, you know, my guess is we all come from similar backgrounds. we never used to sit around the kitchen table in the morning if you the chance to do that or dinner at night with your mom and dad and your brothers and sisters? what did people talk about? they talked about are we going to be able to pay the mortgage? at least my house. what's going to happen if we have another one of those floods and it blows through here like it did in queens? was going to happen? what every going to do? by the way, i don't, you know, i'm just not sure that i want my son or daughter to be going into school with so many people are not vaccina

and i said all right, i guess that's the best thing to come. >> once they were married, she said, he sick and i would tell him to stop. there were times when he would get angry or frustrated and then he would force himself on me. >> and right beside sleeping children in their one small bedroom. >> he would use the children as a way to get me to cooperate, like if he wanted to, and i would say no, he would be firm about it, he would be like, you're going to do this. the kids are asleep right now, if you make any noise or wake them up, i'm not going to stop, they're going to see everything. he could duct tape me, duct tape my mouth, duct tape, you know, my wrists to the leg of a chair and just to keep me quiet. i was very afraid. again, i was young. >> much too afraid to tell. >> and while detectives searched for more clues in amber's death -- >> then one day in late january 2007 as she watched tv she saw the news of amber's murder and i said, look at this, wow, isn't that crazy. and he just looked and he just said, wow, that's -- he mirrored my reaction to it, wow, wow, i can't believe

i said i just wrote on it. [laughter] i forgot that i had said that and it went on. thankfully i felt the time but i learned two major lessons. one, never get on without a story. two -- [inaudible] >> you talk about howut working startup was great for that reason because you could make all the mistakes the beginning and you make them in tandem with other people making them which is helpful because were all kind of dreading the pack and that's what you did, he walked in in march 1971 to the blank slate. just to bump up against the antifemale sentiment you had dealt with up until then, let's talk about the cbs news radio experience you had for your told you couldn't go but so far. you're lucky to get in the door in the first place, right? >> i was lucky. it was very clear women were not to be on the air. there's a good reporter, mary gonzales. mary was a very good reporter but had to cut herself out of her stories and right in some guy in the story so she didn't appear. i was so horrified when i discovered that because she was very talented, very pushy but she still had

right after that, i talked with him and he said do you think i need to get back there and i said yes. we talked about the speech. there was a discussion about some people wanted him to declare war that night. and i think some people were disappointed that he didn't. he clearly was in a war mindset. we decided that the primary mission that night was to reassure a badly shaken nation step he did not declare war that night and we felt mission was one of reassurance. it would pay off. secretary rice was in my office and mica medications people, everybody was giving ideas and lines. i didn't know how i pulled together a speech. >> i want to say he agreed that he should not declare war. the one thing i remember asking him was about that phrase that if you harbor a terrorist, we will treat you as a terrorist. i said given that you want to see about reassurance, do you want to say that tonight? that was the one thing he felt he had to say immediately, that that couldn't wait. that was a policy decision. it was his decision and he said i want you to run this task and i did. i talked to them an

i said i don't have one. i said we could use that. [laughter] that's what he did. >> i want you toca step back evn further because when you walked in the door at npr, they hired you because you were known around town as a dog reporter. you're not a radio reporter even though it was 1974 and 75, there were not people aspiring to work in radio news, you are in the print world and dido not have a radio background. >> and i didn't know how to cut tape or you sound. the first person who taught me on the air live. [laughter] and i have a huge portfolio. i covid the house and senate judiciary committee, some politics and the supreme court. maybe more. we had one program and that made it possible all the time and i was young andnd ambitious and i didn't mind. i had boyfriends but no husband and i didn't mind working. >> did you all get to spend, in the 70s -- and this is pretty hokey and then we will move on to cokie. did you get the sense you were creating something big or were you excited to havet this platform to play with and tell stories?

as i said, i picked a couple of brightguys . to go along with me and there was really a lot of confidence. gene serna and of course was my backup. there's a funny story about cernin. we were at the point about four or five days away from liftoff, schedule lift off. we were all in 21 days after, because of the bug and he was up early in the morning flight helicopter because we all the commanders used doctors to train. and the last few hundred free of the landing. we knew jean was up flying the helicopter. and all of a sudden the door opens and in walks cernin. he is covered with soot. he's got scars on his face. we said what happened? he had been flying the helicopter over the river which was absolutely calm that early in the morning like a mirror and he had been distracted by something or other because he was looking at the land on voyager and he flew that helicopter right into the water. nose over, blades all overthe place . he had rotor blades all over the place. fire because the tanks or saddle tanks on that little chopper, t

i said, mr. president, i understand that. hopefully you can respect -- he's always been so respectful. he said, hey, joe, i never ask you to go against your conviction. we want to help children, seniors, the rich to pay the fair share. do the tax reform. i am all for it. we want to basically fix our drug prices where medicare, we should be able to. i have been very passionate about that. it's not going to tank the -- [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2021] national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org] >> the house is currently in recess. members are planning to return later today to vote on the $1.2 trillion infrastructure bill passed by the senate last month. despite objections from progressives who have vowed to vote against the legislation unless it were to be considered alongside a larger budget reconciliation bill. democrats are still negotiating on a top-line number for the reconciliation bill with progressives, calling for $3.5 trillion in sp

i said, i want a woman to read my book. i said, it doesn't make any sense. entente about? two men kicked me and imprison me. they have done a lot. i want a woman to read. i said, it is kind of crazy. per se send me man. i said, no, i want a woman to read my book. amy: former guantÁnamo prisoner mansoor adayfi speaking from belgrade, serbia. he spent 14 years at guantÁnamo never charge. he just wrote his memoir "don't forget us here: lost and found at guantanamo." he now works at cage, organization working on behalf of # ♪♪♪ ♪♪♪ [speaking foreign language] [speaking foreign language] [speaking foreign language] [speaking foreign language]

and this is before i said that i was a politician. and i hate to say it, but he used to wait for me outside of his studio in los angeles, very crowded streets. when i came he kissed me my rear all the time. and then all of a sudden it's like hey, this guy, go back to his old shows. he was nervous to talk to me. he would meet me at the car, i think he might've even open my door. and now it is different, so it is one of those things. it's very interesting and i went into the big event. and we love our first lady, but she said i have never heard anybody boo for you. but he said all the years nobody ever booed. and i said that's what happens when you go to politics. it is true. , people pick sides. those late-night guys are terrible, but you have done a country such a service by garbling of the ratings and you have done such a great thing. >> thank you, mr. president. thank you for doing this interview. >> is a lot of fun, we will do it again. >> definitely.

i said i've got to make the call. [laughter] when i came on, i couldn't even look so the only thing i could think to do -- [laughter] [inaudible] i said it was 100,000 -- [inaudible] i forgot what i had said the first time. [inaudible] i learned two major lessons. one, never get on the air and also never lie. [laughter] >> you talk about how working great for that exact reason because you can make all the mistakes in the beginning you make them in tandem with other people making them which is helpful because your all kind of meeting the past and that's what you did, he walked in march 1971 to this late and to bump up against anti- female sentiment you dealt with up until then, let's talk about briefly the cbs news radio experience you had when you were told you couldn't go but so far. >> i was lucky. it was very clear women were not to be on the air. mary broke through the she had to talk herself out of her story. it was some guy so he didn't appear. i was so horrified when i discovered that. she's very talented, very,

all right, i just said that for the question was, does it? we can. i said for me, it was an object. well, let's, let's bring in already. and milady have the professor of media and communication at katha university. you've heard, well to guess in tunis, i've said, what do you think the future is? is it a weekend opposition? and a consolidating of power by case said, who's going to simply act the same way been all he did in the past. thank you for the invite me 1st of all, just to make a quick comment with regard to what i've heard from my colleagues. i mean, certainly the issue is much bigger in my view than another itself. yes, another has got his own internal problems in terms of going to get help from within and also the, the government for the last 10 years or whatever. although it's a direct impact on the government was very little. now, the fact that the over a 100 numbers i resigned 2 days ago is a real issue. but my opinion is no other political party running. the government engine is doing the democratic, the condition would have find it easy, an easier to succeed in needing

i heard so many stories that they wanted me for drugs. they saide, known drug dealer. i was known, a lot of people know me, but whatever reason it was, you've got the wrong man. this is something that's sort of well known in reviews of innocence cases. when you have a white victim who, tragically, is harmed, we see greater penalties associated and we see greater instances of wrongful convictions related to those crimes. dontae being a black man in greenville, north carolina in the 1990s was central to why he was convicted and central to why his conviction was not overturned sooner. every time i went to court, it was a white man over me, i was in a black and white case. racism was part of the reason why they went so hard — they tried to solve it and get somebody and it happened to be a black and a white. it wasn't until trial that he knew what the evidence was that was going to be used against him. no physical evidence, no fingerprints, no hairfibre, no nothing. not of me. not my... nothing. nothing on the scene, period. the primary witness that the

so i said, why not? why not? i thought and patting women, so be mechanics so that they can also help or not don't workshop. so that i don't just that with this idea. as i said on my own train about several guess a one boss. well, for the one or both, the commercial work up is to drop out the married. we miss specially living mechanics for cars on the wall. right now we all know with who the route one of the live, the mechanic initiative. not sure how that goes out in i'm through files that me this, that's why when you have a garage like this would pay you to be able to explain that any of what you need to you have once you have an engine on the ground, this is one of course many walks up to the about 17 live go said that we are not with she's also teaching them how to do the book. walk like eventually like receive tunnel that we do have the me to say the timing ball use and the mac and i chose to do that, is that, i mean, i'm scared of a my dream is to hopefully we'll show um it is jamie, our train, our train me u

i said mr.ere tonight he looked on the looked at and said they want us to stay in the bombshells or and he is in the lincoln bedroom? i don't think so if it's good enough for him then it is good enough for us and so then they decided they would sleep on the second floor that evening. so they did not go back down to the shelter. they stayed there. sometime around 8:00 p.m. or 9:00 p.m., i got a call from the west wing and they said how do they make preparations for ms. rice to accept the presidents invitation to stay at the white house for the night? i said you have just done that i will take care of it. obviously she was going to come over at some point in take a room on the third floor. around 9:30 p.m. are in that vicinity, secret service came running into the office and said where's the president and first lady? i said as far as i know they have retired upstairs. we have word another plane is coming toward washington. and we need to evacuate. i said let's go. we got on the elevator going up t

i said i will stay with you. he said no, go. nt out the door and across the street i came up to the paramedics who were there i said do you guys need help? they said are you kidding? we startedtriage peopleing and then there was an explosion. i looked up and it was falling on us, the whole thing was coming down on us and we all ran. host: that call on c-span from september 12 of 2001. 20 years later, we are spending the rest of our program hearing your memories from september 11, 2001 on the terror attack from washington to bc and pennsylvania and wondering what you remember from that day. here are the phone numbers. out of dover plains, new york, jan where were you 20 years ago tomorrow. >> let me you my teething. i was working in an elementary school right outside the new york metropolitan area. my daughter was attending dutchess county community college and her class was scheduled to go down to the towers that day. i found out at 2:00 in the afternoon that she had missed the bus and nobody could get any communication through.

i heard so many stories that they wanted me for drugs. they saidime, known drug dealer. i was known, a lot of people know me, but whatever reason it was, you've got the wrong man. this is something that's sort of well known in reviews of innocence cases. when you have a white victim who, tragically, is harmed, we see greater penalties associated and we see greater instances of wrongful convictions related to those crimes. dontae being a black man in greenville, north carolina in the 1990s was central to why he was convicted and central to why his conviction was not overturned sooner. every time i went to court, it was a white man over me, i was in a black and white case. racism was part of the reason why they went so hard — they tried to solve it and get somebody and it happened to be a black and a white. it wasn't until trial that he knew what the evidence was that was going to be used against him. no physical evidence, no fingerprints, no hair fibre, no nothing. not of me. not my... nothing. nothing on the scene, period. the primary witness that

i said mr.brother is staying here tonight he looked on the looked at and said they want us to stay in the bombshells or and he is in the lincoln bedroom? i don't think so if it's good enough for him then it is good enough for us and so then they decided they would sleep on the second floor that evening. so they did not go back down to the shelter. they stayed there. sometime around 8:00 p.m. or 9:00 p.m., i got a call from the west wing and they said how do they make preparations for ms. rice to accept the presidents invitation to stay at the white house for the night? i said you have just done that i will take care of it. obviously she was going to come over at some point in take a room on the third floor. around 9:30 p.m. are in that vicinity, secret service came running into the office and said where's the president and first lady? i said as far as i know they have retired upstairs. we have word another plane is coming toward washington. and we need to evacuate. i said let's go. we got on the

president, he is trying to i said, -- i said, mr. president, he is trying to get to a secure location and our forces are going up on alert. president putin said ours are coming down, and i knew right then that the cold war is really over. the other big decision we took was to get a cable out to every post in the world as quickly as we could. colin powell was going about our business. that message said the united states of america has not and decapitated. we couldn't talk. the president was getting to a safe location. we were in a bunker. the pictures were awful. you want your friends and your foes to know you were functioning. so that was another very , important decision. and maybe a little bit later, i will talk about the ones that gives the phrase that will always be associate with bush, if you harbor a terrorist, you are, we will treat you as a terrorist. and that's a decision that came later in the day, in which karen was involved. >> karen, also in a recent documentary, and this is describing a video conference with the presiden

immediately i said i think we need to shift this to no victim, no crime. that resonates with most people. as the arrest was happening, there were activists in front of the police car, everyone encircled this. i think something that made it dramatic and slightly dangerous or interesting was culturally a lot of people carry firearms, you can legally -- we do have constitutional carry. a lot of our folks carry guns they might open carry or conceal carry so when police realized they were being surrounded, they call for backup. so then we've got 11 squad cars coming up, people are angry, it's getting feisty. remember, it's on a video on youtube, there's an officer who kind of goes he's got a gun and someone yells from our side and set we all have guns, what now? ... >> the asset protest that day the police stood down they were there and they were being firm that they had the police dogs but there was not a massive rounding up and arresting that would've happened had that not been the case. they took this child who is a 17-year-old boy to the police station and

and i said "why? me bad hips -- big child bearing hips, a bad heart and a bad mouth. so, i said, "what do you mean, like, genetic? and he goes, "basically, it's because of your parents. your -- your mouth is hard at work because you have a hyper immune system. and i was like "what are you talking about? what is that?" he goes, "it's exactly what it sounds like. basically, like whenever you get a little something, your body goes after it. in a big, bad way. he was like, "do you get sick often? i said "no i'm kind of like bruce willis in that one m. night shayamalan movie. and then, he was like, "all right. so which one?" and i said, "you know, 'unbreakable.' and he goes, "oof, thank the lord." not, you know -- >> seth: not "sixth sense," right. not what - >> thank you very much totally. so in any event, man, i was just like, "so, what are we looking at, here?" and he's like, "the idea is when your body encounters a foreign substance, it attacks it with everything as if, like, you're defending yourself a

i said, well, knock yourself out. you do what you do and i will do what i do and let's see how it turns out. that's how it came about. >> i mean, i would add that i like, there's a lot of as told to and ghost written books, which are legit ways to do books. this was really different. it really is robs words from various sources put together by the something about as being related, having known each other all allies, coming from the same place. robs my dad mentorship over rob when he became a doctor. there was a sort of connection that was very sort of telepathic but made it very easy for us to understand each other and relate to each other and to have this back and forth that was really unlike anything i've ever experienced in my career creatively. it was very smooth and intense and intimate, and it wasn't hard to get it on to the page. there was no wrestling robs thoughts and words and expenses into prose. it just happened and really happen in the way, the content was hard, the stories were difficult, but the actual w

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and i said no. she said oh my god. and she was crying hysterically. i said mom, what's going on? don't tell her, don't tell her, tell her to come here now. >> across the street. >> people say that it's chaos down there at the scene, and eyewitnesses say that this plane actually seems to be in the building. >> the plane. >> at this point, i thought oh, this is just a fire. that's not so bad. there will be scaffolding on the world trade center for years, and they'll fix it. but then i saw my dad on the sidewalk, and he turned around and he was crying. and he was hysterical. and i've never really seen my dad cry. and he said oh my god, they were just going to work like i go to work. they were just going to work today. >> i took off my shoes because everybody knows i wear shoes, jojo wears high heels all the time. i'm known for it. so what i did is i took off my shoes and rolled up my pants and i put my sweater around my waist, and we all got together and we all crawled through the debris and smoke. we looked at the other side of the floor. all you saw was a black hole. >> police offi

if i said, no, i would live with that all my life. i said, we said, yes, and we lived with that. ching for something else, because i felt i had the answer right there. but it took many years just to find the difference, so -- >> but we're still a family. >> right. >> i'm still your son. >> that's right. >> i just want to say i'm really thankful that you and dad are my parents and that you raised me. you took care of me. you put up with me. and i'm really grateful for our relationship now. >> well, i'm glad that we raised you, too, and i'm glad that you kept us on our toes a little bit. so it was great. i got two pauls. [ laughter ] >> let's stand up. i'll give you a hug. >> love you, paul. >> love you, too, mom. ♪ >>> there he is. what's happening, 'cuz? >> nothing much. >> you look amazing. look at the hair, man. >> good to see you. >> everything good? >> good. everything's great. >> so you just practicing? >> yeah. >> it's weird. i feel like i'm sitting with your father here now. you're looking a lot like him. >> i don't hear a lot about him. >> well, i can tell you what i know.

i said, bob told me ah, i do still love you women my girl mckelly. i see lady mechanical, we may do me good that my old friend fell in love with me may go though you are this the mon, you go to give you a to us about that day of working with none of our good. the money was big money. let missy sell it for you to live. yes, the village. i see the i was not to do. will the living mckelly? i said the love of lizzie mckelly. you bet us that please let me change my life. we know that you can change the life. that is why today we say we want to take this company. how swan that's almost our 1st house god ramble, saw guys, all of you follow me. let's go to the me with me. i want to do that for you and not let me let me know that was the day. oh yeah. the me the no, no, no. wow. yeah. like me, call them a my like our i thought that would bring my mom that she was almost guessing my mother said no miles, she also brings this grid for this. i'm really trying to live in my family because i'm a friend of my father to travel abroad. went to the us much if you coul

i said it is going to fall. they're going to fall. >> and then my dad, he said -- i'm going to put her on the floor. just give me a second. >> i could actually feel something, something jump inside my body and make me run. >> 65. 35. 20. you saw the firemen coming up on the left. you saw the fear in their faces. all of a sudden i saw the light. i was like, wow, there's a light. and i was like here i go, i'm going out. and as i go out, a cop grabs me and says, miss, you can't go out there. i says, no, i got to go. and i fainted on the spot because what i saw was all the devastation, all the jumpers, all the people that jumped. at that point the cop picked me up and he carried me. >> it's going to fall! >> people cannot stay here. >> i ran to the corner, and i just dove under a car. when i dove under the car, a priest was with me and he started saying hail mary full of grace. >> holy good lord, dear god help us. i just said i'm sorry for everything i never got to do and i'm sorry for all that i never was, for the t

i said, no. she said, oh my god. she was crying hysterically. i was like, mom, what's going on? n't tell her, tell her to come here, now. >> people across the street. >> people say it is chaos down there on the scene. eyewitnesses say the plane actually seems to be in the building. >> can your brain register? i can't register. >> at this point, i thought, oh, this is just a fire. not so bad. there will be scaffolding on the world trade center for years, they will fix it. >> then i saw my dad on the sidewalk, he turned around and was crying. he was hysterical. i've never really seen my dad cry. he said, elizabeth, oh my gosh, they were going to work like i was going to work. they were just going to work today. i took off my shoes, because everybody knows i have high heels all the time. i'm known for it. i took off my shoes, i rolled down my pants, and i put my sweater around my waist, and we all got together and crawled through the debris, smoke, but when you looked at the other side of the floor, all you saw was a black hole. >> police officer, what's your emergency? okay so you'

i think she said i'll be right back. she left her phone there. and so i began to then, you know, take over the -- overseeing the house. and then i began to hear noises. and wasn't sure quite what it was. and i was told that i should adjourn the house which i did. i recessed -- went -- we went into recess. >> without objection, the chair declares the house in recess pursuant to clause 12-b of rule one. and again, i saw another text from my daughter like what -- why are you -- where are you now? i said i'm in the chair, speaker's chair and i know you are. but why are you there? and i think i may have texted her back like, you know, crazy -- i didn't know what she was talking about. and so then i was anxious to get this proceeding again. and i asked whether -- you know, bring the house back into session which i did. so i brought the house back into session. and i yielded to -- i think it was paul gosar who is one of the people challenging the results in arizona so he could finish his speech. i remember it because listening to him was like fingernails

so i called him back. and he said what's detective robbie's phone number? and i said why? get on the phone with jean and she said we need you now. we need you right now. and i thought something might have happened to her family. and she says, "we found a body in the back yard. " i said, "what back yard? " and she says, "on dolphin avenue. " i said, "what are you talking about? " and so i'm arguing with her. because i had searched that area. >> as he raced to the house, hinson called a friend in the sheriff's department to go to the scene. >> and he called me back. i said, is it a dog? and he goes, no, it's a human skull. and i just pulled to the side of the road to try to compose -- excuse me. try to compose myself like i am now. >> hinson was retired by then, but when he arrived at the house he faced a fact every detective dreads. haunted by the search not made. >> i knew when i got there i had missed her. which is a hard thing as an investigator -- >> you're beating yourself up for that, huh? >> i'm not so much beating myself up. it's just i would have much rather found

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