so i said, "sure!" , california, and i stopped and he said, "i've just built the stage "here at amblin" — which was his company — and, "would you mind doing the show here?" i was like, "sure!" he says, "i want to talk to you. "i'm making a movie." now, during all of this — before everything, before i went to broadway — i had listened to a reading of the color purple on npr. and my daughter and i were in the car and we pulled over our van to listen to this reading, and we made a decision that instead of maybe buying two pairs of shoes for my daughter, we'd get a book and a pair of shoes. and so, the color purple was one that she and i listened to together. and so, when i got to los angeles and i met steve and he said, "oh, and i'm making this movie". i said, "what are you making?" he said, "color purple". i said, "oh, cool — i wrote alice walker a letter." he said, "i know," and he pulled it out. she had sent it to him. why had you written to alice walker? well, i — because i thought the book was magnific

[laughter] i said all right. ugh that i am me that you took a picture with me and you have me give you an autograph, but you still want to see my id. i'm sorry, it's the rules. okay. i went in my wallet i got my drivers license i gave it to him. if i have to do that to enter office building in manhattan to go to a meeting, why should i have to show the people in the firehouse my drivers license when i come to: i'm a bad example because i walk in here and if they don't know me, it's a problem but i think everybody should have to show i think one of the things i did when i was governor is which is why he should be less concerned about the broader roles of the state mandated to have the attorney general mandate to have the counties update voter rolls we knocked a lot of dead people off the voter rolls a lot of people who moved off the voter rolls. the voter rolls in new jersey are in much better shape than they were before. mailing ballots i think they are going to continue to be a factor and i don't want republicans

and i said, why did you leave? and he struggles for an answer he's thinking about it very thoughtfully. and he said, well, the block became untenable. and i said, what did you mean by untenable? i asked him this and they said, untenable when. your home is invaded for the second time. that's untenable when your mother is mugged for the second time. that's untenable. and then i said, there's a title. i said, already you get the title untenable. and that's what i heard from person after person i talked to and i talked to at least 50 people. and i got same story. one form or another time after, time, and then the subtitle is this the true story of white ethnic flight from america's cities. i would like to not have the word white in the title because what happened to the whites in our neighborhood happened to the blacks in our neighborhood happened to the asians. and they all know you had a couple of asians. we had like the the girl at the laundry whom i used to go there to ogle. that's there weren't many asians. they al

as i said. so i quit a good job and hung out my shingle and started the viguerie company, which was the world's first direct mail political advertising agency and knew nothing. i thought i knew everything. i knew nothing. less than 1% of what i know now. the one thing i knew that i didn't have that i needed, and that was names and addresses and i was able to get 12,500 barry goldwater donors, dollars plus donors. and that changed everything. and so by the end of that first year, when i started my company, 1965, i had 100,000 republic and goldwater donors, and now we're well past million donors. and activists, conservative movement. and i recognized early on that was the business i was in. i wasn't in fundraising too much or marketing i in the name acquisition business. mark zuckerberg figured that out too. mr. viguerie have you gotten rich in your business? i have not. as a matter of fact, i'm very comfortable. but to this day, my team will testify under that, i put everything possible back into

i said, yeah, he goes. why i vote for you? i said well look at this boardwalk. you think we're going to get this done because that's what i got for vote for you last time. what do i get for voting for you next time? voters in the main think about tomorrow not about yesterday. and that's good. that shows where a hopeful country. we think tomorrow can be better than yesterday. and we don't want to dwell on yesterday. we want to look to tomorrow. so our party's got to start doing that. stop the grievance politics. stop the moment and complaining. fight them in the places we could fight fight to get voter id. fight to do better on male and balance fight to make sure that the county's clean up the voter rolls. take those things out of play and then our ideas versus their ideas. i feel like we'll do. okay, and by the way in an election where we lost at the top of the ticket by three points, we picked up six seats in the assembly and a seat in the senate. and a lot of local seats you know except for the top of the ticket. election day was very good for republicans. acro

i said, bring your photo , i was a child, and i said, this is my photo. i went for half an hour i came back and said yes, this is where we boarded because of the crowd. let's go to 123. it wasn't on the way. i said, i got off on foot. another family is here . he dropped off the number there, and again, when are we going ? the lover and the beloved are here. i said no, dad , we want to go to najaf, ashraf said, mrs. i told him about his child, and he said that the place that the resident members said was supposed to be created for a better life for the people, but it turned into a cold and soulless prison, and i was really shocked . i didn't want to. it was hard for me. i didn't want to be between the iraqi army and the like there is a problem for me, he was isolated there, he started talking about hypocrites doing this and that, self-immolation, torturing people, killing people , i don't know what you are doing, imprisoning alive, burying , it seems like i was regaining consciousness, i came and he told me to meet the child we came and got ready to go see

and i know south america and other places and it's inside opium is that i said it will be synthetic drugs, which is exactly what is happening right now. thank you so much, professors. i have a please stick around the professor's. i hear what tom will stay with us right after the break. and when we come back, we will explore what countries are taking over the opium production market in asia . don't go away. the russian states never saw one of the most sense community best. nothing was all sense and up the must be the one else holes. question about this, even though we will ben in the european union, the kremlin machine, the state on russia to day and split the ortiz full neck, even our video agency, roughly all the band on youtube tv services. for the question, did you say they requested the mortgage to search as well as the other way? not. right, so see what, what was that was correct. this is just so basically of course we need the last name was needed. read it was can, will be used to be too much and we have some more more what's, what was this? we would show new people to the, the, the

i don't know,, you're sick too. he said so you're not going to tell the press that i gave it to you? i said it wouldn't say that because i don't know that it's true. now up until two days ago my thought process of that was that was just donald trump's paranoia, that he didn't want to be blamed. i was always a little bit suspicious because every one of us beside him got tested every day before we went in. the process was during that time you went to the gate at the white house, you got admitted, someone escorted you to the eisenhower building next door and that is where the medical unit is. did you go to the medical unit. they swab you. use out there for 15 minutes. if you are negative you are authorized to go to the west wing. so i was always a little bit suspicious as to whether one of us got a false positive, false-negative rather or whether itkn was him because he's the oy one we didn't know whether he was getting tested every day or not. we wouldn't know. for me, mary pat, especially how bad my experience with covid was

and i said i am running bet. f you don't take them off i'm going to bring my whole congregation and picket i said okay. i rather you bring them to my office as opposed to my personal house because that's a safety issue for me by this time my son and connolly to college it was just me and my daughter you bring in 200 people to my house every saturday picketing with bullhorns that did not make my white neighbors very happy. [laughter] >> this is still an issue because some of the supreme court justices people have been house becausey ir of their decisions in roe v wade. >> in d.c. has the most liberal protest laws in the country. embassies arein neighborhoods. >> the interesting thing about this and now you can admit this you did not like the videos themselves. wasn't there any party that wanted to take them off? >> the first thing i did my took over as ceo was cancel uncut. i did take to drill off it. .and i had never seen uncut before he became ceo. i said i should watch this because it's interesting what i am say

i said why me. i said i'm an organizer. i don't know anything about that. he said, well, nobody else wants to run. so i see the city of atlanta, i was elected in 1972. i got elected in a pouring down rain. it rained from all night. one of these really rainy nights of georgia that gladys knight sang about. but it rained all day the next day. yet we had a 75% turnout of black voters. and we had an increase in the turnout of white voters. my opponent was really, well, my opponent and i became good friends. he even asked his family to get me to do his funeral. when he passed about 10 years after the election. his son and i are good friends. that started the city of atlanta picking up where birmingham left off. nothing that you see around here is accidental. we knew what we were doing and we took the movement into politics and we translated politics into a bad boy and we did it with no money. i mean there was no government money in that airport, no city money in that airport. probably we were the first movement to go to wall street because some of the came to me

he said, it is too late. i am sorry. i said, i tell you what is too late.onday morning 7:00 i'm putting a 100% tariff tax on your wine and champagne that comes into the u.s. that takes place at 7:00 monday morning. this was a friday. you let me know within the next half hour was going to happen but we are putting a tax on it and i just think the bill and it is going to go into effect in two days. he called me back two minutes later and said we had decided not to put 25% tax. that is the good news. the bad news is as soon as abide in that in they put all sorts of bad things -- biden got in they put all sorts of bad things in. biden does not know what you're talking about. in the big new premise poll, we are beating biden by five points with the sanctimonious losing to biden 33 to 38. dissent is not doing a good job. he was losing badly. he was down at many points. i think 38 or 40. he talks about it in the old days. he came to my office, tears in his eyes saying please can i have your endorsement. i said you're so far down to a man named adam the secretary a

i said, no, yeah, i will think about that.so he toll me to go back to the law firm and talk to ty. and so that was the first inclination i had that that might be a possibility, and i loved it because it's a a black-owned company, but also i could stay in d.c. which is what i really wanted to do, and there are not that many corporations in d.c. >> why was it the perfect job for you? why was it perfect? >> well, i just loved black brands. i had grown up on soul train and ebb any -- ebony and jet e, fashion fair. i always -- i went to all-black schools until college, so i always wanted to give back to the community. so the fact that this was a cable network 100% dedicate canned to african-american community -- dedicated to the african-american community was something i was very excited about. and, you know, i guess i was kind of intrigued by programming. i watch all four of the channel- [laughter] i remember when fox was created, and it was the fourth channel. we weree like, oh, my god, we have a fourth channel. and so, you know,

and, uh, i was floored and, totally floored. he saidit outperformed all the other products and emailed me at the same time aggress. now i an english major, i bar graphs were, never my thing. i can read them after a while. i have a hard enough time reading the bottom, the vertical line is just not. i mean, that's the second thing i look at. and i looked at this graph and all six products were listed at various levels and there was quikclot and there was nothing and i thought, i guess we didn't really do that well. i said to him on the phone, there's, there's nothing our product he said, well, look on the left side that's, the number of kids who died. so you were the only product that had deaths. no pigs, died. all pigs survived. your product, your product beat everything. and i in i was amazed. i went in. i told frank about it and he said, i know. this is the inside of. our conversations is usually go, oh, so that's and just too fast forward. that's the the winning part of the story. the great start you had had a very interesting career

but i couldn't tell. he saidevery they he stepped off of the elevators i would ask him what did you . do i had to know. i was campaigning. i was touring the country. i was having press conferences and i needed to know. in february he had been there a year, one day he stepped off the elevator, he said, why don't you come to cabinet meetings and you'll know why we do things and i started going to abnet meetings. a lot of people don't know that cabinet meetings and staff, i sat by -- cleveland and he was in the wheelchair. he was head of veterans affairs. i sat by him next to the door. i went every time i could that the cabinet met because it was dish thought it was necessary for me to know what was going on and why the decisions were made and so far so that i could explain to people in the country as i toured around. >> roselyn carter, did you receive criticism for attending the meetings and for being the president's emorsy? >> there were all kinds of criticism. you know, i learned why jimmy was in the state senate

i said, "look, i took pride in being in the navy. i took pride in surviving and making it through mit and i had high hopes to do good things for the navy and for the country. now, i don't know who i am. and the only thing that's happened between then and now is i've been exposed to a series of very strong psychiatric medications." the answer after 20 minutes was, "well, i can give you a prescription for cymbalta." [sprinkler] when i did move out, he called me and said he was standing in the basement next to a noose. i said, "what's your safety plan?" he said, "to call you." i said, "that's not a safety plan. you need to hang up and call 911." i hate having to tell him that. it feels callous to me. when you're going through the withdrawal from psychiatric drugs, the best thing is to get back off that ledge and just say, "dave, give yourself more time, give yourself more time, continue to fight for it. someday you'll regain a sense of normalcy in your day-to-day life." [thunder] typically, we find that the withdrawal phenomenon is the

but i said, i could provide. some questions for you that could for him to consider that would guide conversation that would basically be a basis for conversation really tackled some tough issues and and he said, okay so i put together a of ten questions and this was a little unusual because shall we say i don't think there's much precedent. american history for a prospective cabinet officer to be interviewing the president rather than vice and and so i wrote questions. i had them hand-delivered to, jack, and he delivered them to and he called me back literally days later and he said, obama is even more interested now. and you come in talking to about this job and he thought the questions were really great he said but he wants to know do you want written answers? it's not an exam, a guide to a conversation. and you know, the first question. and so when we had secret meeting in the firehouse at national airport, every few after the election, and it was just the two of us in the room he pulls piece of paper out of hi

an internet fortune said, how do how do i read your and i and i said, well, i don't have a so she said, what's your cell phone number? and i said, don't have one. she said, well, how do you your messages? and i said, when i get home, there's another machine. and she and she looked at me and she i think she thought i was on the cutting edge of a new wave and she said, you know, i could just hear her going back to remember those pink you were out pads these one show i'm sorry pink while. you were out pink. yes i do remember that he has a box of. all right. so i just it's just a thought because your phone i would ask the question is what you least about new york? best about new york. don't think about it too carefully because you're a very person. she's a very careful. oh, okay. there are there are people. who would or joe you can answer the question and hope can think it. no i mean i can answer. oh good theater. theater. is that the least of the best? that's that's that's the best food. yeah, well, that's food. food before theater. food after theater. yeah, food with no theater. theater.

and as i said, it said, dr. the plant, etc, which is the leading producer of from synthetics, grows why are all over afghanistan? and in another era countryside, you know, the middle east, and so that's in america and so far so and as i said, you know, it's synthetic drugs where we had one point you didn't hear about in that kind of stuff. now are a major uh drug industry in a standard time and it looks like even that, that it, brian are unable to control of it. are there any initiatives or programs in dot com, nodding the drug problem and supporting effective communities and afghanistan? well, you know, i mean people try to understand, you know, is very traditional and muslim believing and are the same society for one thing. a drugs and drug production by and large are looked down upon and you know, it, and it kind of drugs. and if um is prohibited by, by religion. so there's one reason, but also at the bottom it says a bid declared um, you know this the prohibition in april of 2022. yeah, it has been an 85 to

would say i said, you know, 70%, 80. i mean, a of them, you know, and my boyfriend at the time he was at medical school and we both you knew we had this study and. it was hard to live in the dorm rooms and hear people talking about law and all around you. so we decided better for our mental health to off campus and my dad just didn't agree with that. so you know you mean because of your trash boyfriend at harvard medical school? wow. i don't like the the nerve of you, but he would be amazed that it took so long for us to get a black female supreme court justice, because that was definitely in his plan for. me but you missed it. yeah, i know. i messed. i mean, you could have, you know, so so you did the law thing. you went to big law for for a minute, didn't love it? how did you get to be it? how did that happen. well, i went to big law after clerked for a year and or in the year. jimmy decided not to run. and ronald reagan won. and i didn't want to go into a republican administration. and in the other part of it, there wa

i said no, we went to lunch and then i'll get into this later. but i ended up spending 10 days with him at his house in may of 2015. help him with the book of the doomed a machine that was just in its final drafts and interviewed them for 40 hours and how america has liked to go to war. randy, you're a close friend of julian assigned someone for whom den ellsberg had a great deal of respect. tell us about dan's commitment to julian and about the relationship between the 2 of them. well i, i don't think all the people have been doing that assign shelf since 2016 account down to freedom. and, and i, i've had you on many times at john pilcher and the craig murray and so many others that are close to us on. but i gotta tell you, dan ellsberg those 9 times. each time he was different each time he was poetic. each time you could see that commitment in the never spirit himself, when i said i'm going to be doing a show on his on she says i'm in. uh so uh that guy at age and he was not just in for him. he was in for daniel hale and for you and for a jeffre

and i said, i've got a degree. he turned to his friend and he said, "hey, johnny says, "this guy's got a temperature." degree — temperature. and he was making fun of the fact that it was a black guy in the labor exchange at seven sisters road who said he got a degree. he didn't believe it. and one may think, oh, that was racist. a couple of days ago somebody said, "who are you?" and i said, "on your list you'll see it's "professor sir geoff palmer." and she said, "is he the person you're looking for?" and that was last week. my own father is someone who i think experienced success despite great odds. i know at some point sir geoff palmer was a potato peeler with even after he finished university. and a lot of that is evidence of the structural racism that he was working against. and i think with figures like him, we see their accomplishments and they hide a lot of the scars. and i think, for me, i'm interested in where the discomfort lies and what he might be keeping beneath the surface and how we can bring that int

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and i said, you know, i would cover mine. nobody ever covers my meetings. and she said, mrs. arter, mental health is just not a sexy issue. and with that i didn't like but i never did get very much coverage for it. but we toured the country, found out what was needed, developed legislation and passed the mental health systems act of 1980. it passed through congress. one before jim, as he says, was involuntary. he retired from the white house and incoming president put it on a show never implemented during the greatest support of my life. and now we had a mental health symposium here at the carter center. i have a great mental health program here. last week and and one of the people who worked with me in the white house, the program the subject was the affordable care act. and he did a comparison of what we did in 1980 with what we what the affordable care act. it almost identical. we just passed parity and it was announced here the final regulations. i had parity in the 1980 system of mental health systems that i mean, this is really things don't move very fast in the mental h

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and i said, what is his name was him. and he said to my. i said, you're kidding. he said, no it's the moy. he used to be our leader and i said, i've met my and i, he said, i said, if you met him and the young man said he was here two weeks ago and he said in the hanoi hilton and he. yes. and i said, well, do you ever see him again? he said, he comes here regularly. he comes directly. and i said, would you give him a note from and read it him. he said he would. i reached in my pocket, pulled out one of my business cards and wrote on the back of it this message in english. i you want to go fast, go along if you want to go far travel together. and to my we decided travel together. your country is better for it. and so is ours. and to all the men and women who sacrificed, laid their lives on the line at a time, a tough time in our country. i those that are still alive and those are not. i just want to say you're sacrifice your service was has been purposeful and that this generation my generation and i think our children's generation and others will for a long time app

i like to keep the piece of paper. he said i don't think you are aware of what it takes and i thought that was interesting. if you want to hear the story, you will get people to listen. we did come in and is a wonderful book and they came from canada and the editor so it was a a wonderful panel and a lt happened. the rules are sometimes arbitrary and allow a powwow and no one can come in on this so they didn't qualify for that, they were qualified to go into the powwow. being told most of the time nobody went to the front door butgo because powwow was going , you could hear it all through. they went through the whole structure. it was very moving and important and i remember we were told don't ask what they are here for, you don't like the answer and it started and he looked young enough and i said are you? answered i know, i get out in six months but i didn't think i'd be able to make it, i've been here 20 years. i heard the drum and realized i'm going to be okay. that changed everything. this is very important so he came on

i found this and i e-mailed and said could i use this? we can't read it? anyway it says ranger bob. she said please go ahead and use liit. the taipan that i used to wear. this was my ranger badge when i was a ranger. put this out to celebrate 100 years as a ranger badge. and then i found this. taking tours through yellowstone or over yellowstone. this is out in the park right now. this is the resource handbook that is published now when it was first made up it was only for the superintendent of the parka. now you can buy it. this is a collectors item you get at the visitor center. through natural disasters the fires of eight the floods all survived stuff on thehe communities in tough on the people. actually the earthquake everyone stood out of the park. it was wonderful. i was always proud to put a flag up outside the ranger station. this is a thank you to some of the people that help me put this together. you've been a wonderful audience, thank you. and i hope to see you next time. [applause] ♪ weekends on cspan2 are an intellectual feast. every saturday american history tv document

and i said what should i be careful of? nd he said, well, there are going to be people in this neighborhood that are going to be a little wondering why you're just walking through the neighborhood. and i said really are they and i, i told him then this story about this guy, paul salopek, who's now walking like around the world, essentially. and when he walked across the country of georgia, 54 nights every night, he was put up spontaneously. the people in georgia and i said so. and i ended up walking, oh, while i was leaving the guy, he said oh, one thing i just want you to know when i said be careful, i wasn't talking about me. i think you're fine. i was warning you about the other people in the neighborhood and and in the book. i then go on to muse about our version of hospitality you go back and look at any of the holy they all it's about how do you treat the stranger who comes down the road and you know, in our case we basically turned hospitality into an industry and rightfully i then filled my water bottle at dunkin don

and i said, the mother said i should adopt her. nd he told me, he said, you know, we don't have to do that. we don't have that paper to take care of our babies. we don't need that piece of paper. he said, just be whatever you have to be for her. if you have to be her mom now be your mom, auntie or grandma, whatever it is, take care of that baby. the creator's going to really bless you because that baby is innocent and you're doing the best you can for her, he said. so don't rely on that. what a white man's paper, he said. someday the mom might come back, you know, and. and really want that baby. and he said they'll have that bond again. so i didn't i didn't. i told her i wouldn't adopt or take care of her as long as she wanted me to. but when she was ready to be the mom, you know, come and be that mom. and she did, you know, so i was really happy with that. so our our part of the american movement has always been for the culture and for the traditional way of life. you know, that's what we have. i moved back to my reservation in 198

so i was prepared as mary pat said. i went back and since the modern era president of debates the debates of kennedy and nixon in 1960 and then there were no debates and 64, 68 or 72 and then in 76 gerald ford in the race coming up of the convention he reads the debates so that started thew modern era and ever since their -- then they are been presidential debates every four years. what i wanted for articles that i out from 76, from 80, 84, 92, 96, 2004 and 2012. those were the elections where there was an incumbent president seeking re-election or election in gerald ford's case. and every one of them the president, the incumbent president lost the first debate every time but i went back and spoke to some of the folks beforene the debates. i called them and they knew i was doing trump and they told me the same thing which i suspect that which was the president doesn't want to practice. they are like i'm the president. this guy or woman over here they don't know the presidency. i know the presidency. and the president so

and i said why what do you mean i came in first. d no you just told me you did not do your best. i'll ever want from you is to do your best. and every day of my life i try to live up to that standard. that combat veteran the dedicated father, dedicated husband one of my favorite memories the book about my dad was as you were vice president when my first international trips was to travel to korea. we were driving to the capitol of soul and they had billboards at the bus stations, didn't they? set welcome vice president pence. and right underneath it said and thank you lieutenant ed pence for our freedom. [applause] thank you jon. >> now one more story i would like you to tell. i just fell in love with the story when i read it. this one is about a fraternity brother that you had in college. this is a born-again story. but i would like youou to tell e story about what he wore around his neck and how that affected you. he's got a fraternity brother jon often was only appropriate thatap this man is a modern-day jon the apostle. but you re

they are very serious charges but i think, as i said earlier— charges but i think, as i said earlier e president, they will be glad dry by— president, they will be glad dry by attorney fees and president trump will not help them — president trump will not help them through his fundraising mechanism to pay for their legal— mechanism to pay for their legal fees and they will probably say whatever it takes to get — probably say whatever it takes to get an _ probably say whatever it takes to get an agreement and a plea deal with— to get an agreement and a plea deal with the fulton county district _ deal with the fulton county district attorney to make sure they— district attorney to make sure they are — district attorney to make sure they are not going to be in any legal— they are not going to be in any legaljeopardy. we they are not going to be in any legaljeopardy-_ they are not going to be in any legaljeopardy. we had seen the statement from _ legaljeopardy. we had seen the statement from the _ legaljeopardy. we had seen the statement from the former - statement from the former preside