and i think that's why the i c j in the i c. c had such a clear idea of how to frame these these way. the x is as well cries and even as a crime against humanity. i think we've got to look at the wider implications as well and what this might mean for some of the suppose as those who send alms, alms transfers to israel from israel's allies. the us of course, as we all know by fall, the largest provider and it gives this round the tree 8 was $3800000000.00 every year. now germany is the 2nd largest supply, accounting for 30 percent of all of these rails weapons impulse lost in germany approved um shipment 2 is well worth more than $350000000.00. well, since 2015 the case contributions amount to move in half a $1000000.00 and include components for f $35.00, fight to jets. the past 80 is canada has sent me a tray equipment with 84000000 dollars to his route, although it suspended um, sec, sports in february ilan. do you see a scenario here as we get requests for arrest warrants from the icpc? another ruling that is far from favorab

where well past that point, yes the i c i g decides to send me back to c i a in april of 2017, and the c i g has still not done anything in my efforts to get any information. basically came back still under investigation, nothing new to report. so the last it was filed, the i see i did claim i had a conflict of interest and somebody back to the c i a i go back to the c i a for when i call around 2 with the devils i called see i the pit of hell, shakespeare is quote, how is empty and all the doubles are here. because literally it was hell. just the amount of bureaucratic bullying that i was going through all the different offices . i mean, jobs were being advertised and re advertised and we advertise jobs that i had the language for. i had the training, i had the, the work history to basically be able to be given that job. they refused to give me the job, and it was just insane. so in this process, eventually what happens is, so i have to escalate and i have to start using the intelligence community was a board protection act. mm hm. i went straight to the i g for the i, c i g. this was

for months, the i c. c. prosecute to face criticism of the cottage and gauze and folded. cons critics, even of the un security council, criticize what they saw as, as in action to hold as we had a comfortable seas via a ceasefire. israel's allies, including the united states, mostly expressed anger. i had to monday of i c. c announcement, target israel and we will talk to you that a warning letter for me. it doesn't us for public incentives that threatened to cut funding and sanction i. c c stuff and their families. 3 this is, bill is a today in the me, a talk over the risk for and is unlikely to have an immediate impact on the war which has killed more than 35000 palestinians and displaced millions more since october. some of the javi was there like a well let's go live now to the international criminal court in the hague. step voss and the as the end step, a very bold move by the i c. c. the 1st stage and what could be arrest warrants brought against these permanent figures and this conflict will cause t

the un, the i, c, c i, c, j. to proceed with these lemme, i will be the rest against the west agenda. i think they will fail. but the question to the supposed to be simple, which on a good day place to care about international lower than that institutional architecture and the criminal courts in the us. what is that we should all be willing to continue to pay the costs for running pop up the israel, which is don't do the roof exponentially. installation of back on the opposite, so far as the yes and the list, unless they change the outgoing to collapse the whole thing around them in order to defend these writing more crimes. and the all types of homes finally came about a minute left. what are the chances of us ever seeing those accused appearing before the international criminal? oh, that's a difficult one to predict and i would have sold the chances of seeing the mass lead as well. high as and a thing be is right and you need is just because of the, you know, the press a political support might be stronger. but

because if the i c c, that's the other way around have not done well. they've done today, in other words, begin the process of applying for or as far as everybody was saying, what's the point of the i see, see if you've got might, is right. in other words, you've got a big time to go, the bigger rocket, the whatever you just ignore and carry on. knowing that no one's ever going to get to that's, that's been the approach of russian. russia is nolan, and this is i. so we see it happening again here. it is extremely and boom, but international lawyers who have supported the general faces and operation of the international criminal code. and of course the, the, they come back that's off of the end of the 2nd level should inside, at this time put pressure on the cook to remain independent and not be bulldozed and bullied into withdrawing. which is the fair i have is the americans, for example, might withdrawal funding in various ways that they do. and they don't, they don't members of the i c, c, but they're also suppression. so they can bring back we as a co

j from the i c. c. a we likely to see great the questions raised about complicity of some of the west and back as and supplies of arms twist around not immediately. but i think within the long run, we will see that, i think this is the moment of truth, particularly for the why fi in the western european countries? because in the united states, as you know, the congress is fully behind these very policies. it was criticize the president, even if he thinks of suppressing or limiting with supplies to as well. that was a big question is countries like germany, france and britain who are more likely to abide by international than the united states. and that will they be able to continue supply arms and be complicit in the crimes and goes a.

we can't just leave it like that as well on the us on north members of the i. c. c, which was formed in 2002. the palestine is a member and the code has the power to investigate what crime is committed on the touch feet of any of its members states. 3 while a panel of judges at the i c. c, we consider the prosecutors request with us walgreens, as well as faces for the international isolation as opposed to use it's months long lenses bombardment of gaza essentially, which is 0. so inside study that spring, and i guess for today's discussion, joining us here in the ha is diana book to a promise to the lawyer and legal analyst from london with joined by daniel levy, president of the us middle east project. so the full member of the official is really delegations to peace talks with the palestinians of talbot and also from amsterdam. we're joined by cape macintosh, executive director of the university of california, los angeles law schools promise institute for hugh and rights europe. she previously served at the international criminal tribunal is for the former yugosl

but now when the i c. c closes in on arrest warrants for is really officials the us cause it outrages gabriel's under. how does it do united nations in new york? how does the students have walked out of your university's graduation ceremony known as commencement to the us office staging an anti war protests well had followed. some graduates holding signs demanding a permanent ceasefire and gaza and an end to us military assistance for israel. they also demanded yells de vestment from on supplies and an honesty for students and stuff being disciplined or fired for testing. so the okay, we're going to turn to some other world news now. iran isn't as presidential elections for june. 28, soft to the death of president ever comes right. you see and i had a call to crash. the wreckage was find early on monday. michael apple is back of the how events unfolded before and often the crash. these were rainy and president e brian, right, you see is fine, allow is attending the integration of 2 dams on sunday, near the

but what's the role of the c i a and all this is that little different now that the c i is led by a professional diplomat. and how different is it now that the c i a is less and intelligence collection agency and more of paramilitary bodies? we'll get the answers to those questions and more with a bona fide experts. i'm john kerry onto welcome to the whistle blowers the . 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 the c i a is, are constantly changing and evolving organization in many ways. that's a good thing. gone, for example, are the days of illegally experimenting on human beings in a program known as m. k. ultra also gone are the days when the stated operational directive was simply to recruit spies to steal secrets, and then to analyze those secrets so that the country's most important and senior policy makers could make the best informed policy possible. the post 911, c, i a, is much more of a paramilitary force than it ever was before. and new words and phrases have entered the lexicon because of that words like rendition and phrases like enhanced interrogation techniques. to be sure, the c, i a has had more than i

the i c. j as no pilots, when full sit on this in south africa, filed the case, it accused of israel is counting out genocide against palestinians. the quote constituted that in conformity with the obligation under the genocide convention, is that it must immediately hold. it's mindy to offense and any other action instead of governors, which may inflict on the bus sitting in a group and gaza conditions of life that could bring about its physical destruction in hold or influx the quotes, which is to emphasize that'd be measured, indicated in paragraph 51 to a office or that of march 28th, 2024th the whiting. i quote, the and the vision at scale by all the concerns of urgently need the basic services and to maintain the system. and of course, mississippi space that is funding meant in open land crossing points. and in particular that off across the step boston has the life is from the instructional court of justice. in the hank in south africa responded quietly, least after this quite important

b i. c, c prosecutor says this evidence to show that nothing yahoo, i'm go on the criminal responsibility for crimes. and also in the past 7 months, the mazda attack on is watkins about 1200 people on october 7th, and as well as well. and also since has getting more than $35.00 pounds of palestinians, the crimes include starvation of civilians as a method of wolf, i wilfully causing great suffering. serious injury to body or health or cruel treatment. also killing or murder, unintentionally directing attacks against a civilian population. as well as crimes against humanity of extermination, handling matter, persecution and navigation. some crimes of committing other in human acts. nothing yahoo condemned what he called an outrageous position, accusing the icpc of anti semitism. the prosecutors of surcharges against being as well as the defense minister. i'm merely an attempt to deny, as well the basic right of self defense. and i assure you one thing this attempt will utterly fail. moss is a

he said, which i haven't had time to read the entire i c j decision. i need to talk to washington one more comments on this later. so he didn't really want to comment much on it, but really what you're seeing here is a potential collision course with the, with the united states being is real, some main ally, and a collision course with the rest of the security council members. because we've seen in the past to the us is willing to use their veto power to protect israel. we saw that multiple times. so over the last 678 months or so. so the us is really much in a difficult position of maybe a difficult position. they put themselves in based on previous votes. because clearly there is a consensus to try to get some sort of draft resolution on rafa moving forward in the coming days. it will be up to the us to decide if they decide to veto it, or perhaps support it. of course, we'll be keeping a very close eye on that. thanks so much, gabriella ellis, on the line for us from the human headquarters in new york, are here with this play the slate here on the al

in the aftermath of the i. c. c. chief prosecutors move to pursue arrest warrants for is really and how much leaders most i'm boss. it is of the un remain tight lips if any questions on the contentious issues, but some diplomatic voice is emphasized. the importance of respecting the judicial is independence, underscoring a cautious approach until legal process is unfold. i'll just say it is gabriel at a zone to reports from you and headquarters in new york of your un headquarters, most ambassadors did not want a comment about the i c c decision. as one said, it's like a hot potato that nobody really wants to touch right now. we spent all day trying to talk to investors even asking them questions as he went in and out of security council meetings. but in almost all instances, our questions were ignored. now most countries clearly want to let the judicial process play out, and that was the sentiment echoed by motors, ambassador to the un, which is a member of the security council. please stop what did you the should

obviously clearly the decision is binding by the i c, j or the rulings are binding by the i c, j. but in terms of enforcement, the i c, j does not have any enforcement that is a job of the security council. and i think think that's why you're seeing the house standing in bass or now jerry and a bass through is the air representative on the security council right now. really pushing this forward to try to 1st, since the lack of better word, take advantage of this opportunity to really get something in front of a security council that can be voted upon the guidelines. you mentioned that the siege i rolling to actually be implemented. it needs to go through the un security council, which of course will depend on this, the u. s. veto its own, not if we got any idea of what they might do when it comes to that 5. whether us, it's a showed in the past that they will veto a security council resolutions that come in front of the account. so about guys that they've done it multiple times. in fact, after the 1st i c, j, provisional measures were announced in january, the security council too

and he's got to go to the general counsel of the c i a and or the inspector general, the c i a. and the unfortunate example of the c i officer who was at the white house, who was a central in reporting the terrible phone call. that donald trump had with ukrainian president, which was the source of his whistle blowing, which was the key factor leading to the impeachment of donald trump. uh, he did repeat, did go to the general counsel, and the general counsel alerted the justice department in the white house about this whistle blower on his staff, which is exactly why you should have to go to the general council. if you have something sensitive, you should be able to go to that and my case, i went to the senate intelligence committee. so this is very dangerous. and as you say, the whistleblower act of 1989 does nothing to the intelligence community and nothing for private contractors who work on the intelligence committee. so if you don't get full support from the intelligence committees of the house has never been very courageous in this regard. and frankly, the senate intelligen

and we certainly will not join the i c, c. we will let the i c, c die on its own. after all, for all intents and purposes, the i, c, c is already dead us. so don't both, and then making the us, it's done. so in the eyes they say very, to fast forward, just a few. yes. and washington was fully suppose to be i see, see an issue. i'm going to rest words. you can slide to me a post. and so my question is, why is the quote a legitimate in some cases and repeat a repeatable body in others? this is the exact example of the simple garcia and the, the rest of the window and just shooting them. it's fine and no additional is i gotta send it tends to the uh, the judges of the, uh, i see, i know that since last 3 days a go with some numbers. oh gosh. and america and just the citizens directly to the judges of the 0. it will be sanctions on some of the judges i'm, you know. busy punishments or so i guess some of which is for the security. so when it comes to there are of the running against them or i guess they have some of the allies like is, was the, you know, nice guy, see i

the next step in the i c. c. process. application is made to the court pre trial chamber to decide whether sufficient grounds and jurisdiction exist . if the arrest warrants are issued, suspects can voluntarily surrender to the i. c. c, or countries that have signed up to its room statute have an obligation to arrest them. if not for him to the hearing, will be held to decide if there's enough evidence to go to trial. if the case proceeds 3 trial and judges will preside, and the prosecution must prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. judges can then issue sentences of up to 30 years in prison, and even live sentences in exceptional cases. what is wrong is not a member of the i c c and israel's need is don't face evidence arrest, but they say the prosecutor's decision is disgraceful. an anti semitic but haven't jump june has no one's been that the all his coalition of course is found out to 0 from report inside israel. so i'm having just talking to us from a long the outrage across the is really political spectr

for months, the i c. c. prosecute to face criticism of the conduct in god's unfolded cream hunts. critics, even of the un security council, criticize what they saw as, as an action to hold is rather comfortable. ceasefire a ceasefire of israel's allies, including the united states, mostly expressed anger. i had to mondays, i cc announcement target israel and we will talk to you that a warning letter from it doesn't us republican senate has to threaten to cut funding and sanction i. c. c stop and their families. this is go that today. and then me, a talk of arrest warrants isn't likely to have an immediate impact on the war which has killed more than $35000.00 palestinians and displaced millions more since october. some of the javi was there as well as milton member of the i. c. c. and israel's need is do not face imminent arrest, but they say the prosecutor's decision is disgraceful and anti semitic not to jump . jane has more. i remember benjamin netanyahu, his condition has burned down to 0 from reportin

actually quoting, quoting the i c j n. c symmetric. they believe that it's almost a witch hunts against israel, and that it's actually not carrying out a genocide fall from it. many of them have said that they've been considerate to the fact that there is a population and it's a dense population and a small area. however, what we see on the ground is different because assumed as the or the was read out. the intensification of the is really bombing on rough sconces. and also other than the problem is the statement that you just read out the assign me. we also heard from benny guns, one of the wood cabinet members who said that israel committed is committed rather uh to the rule. and he says is justin necessary and to re over time the hostages, 3 parties came by. israel had managed to retrieve them of some of those captives this morning, but the point is, is the families of those held captive wants result. so say, now increasingly that is right of the government isn't reaching those goals. the feds up some of the one mother said yesterda

, c, the i c. c says it's a damn we all member is a state of palestine on their web page. they joined in 2015. it's an outright lie. and then later on uh he, uh, uh, uh, he uh, claimed later on, matt, matt lee picked up on my questioning. so so, so just to just have yours up, matt levy is the reporter for a p. matt miller is the, the, the, the, the, the talking had to represent the state department of the united states. so matt levy is asking matt miller, what questions go ahead. right. keep, keep followed up on my question in saying, what about russia and the i c c. because you know, you, you're saying that, you know, israel isn't a party in russia isn't a party. so what's the difference here? why, why are you accepting it? and one in rejecting it and then other, and he says, well, the difference is that ukraine is ukraine, is a member, is, are they? well, they're not white again. he lied on both sides of the equation. deep sleep claim, the palestine wasn't a member. and then he falsely claimed tha

, of, of the, the power of the i, c c. and i think that there is, there's, there's reason for that from, you know, from america's perspective as a nation. and certainly in the past, there been concerns about prosecution against people like president bush or maybe obama. but the point is that the united states has clearly been pro israel since the inception. i don't think that's a surprise. but look, i mean this administration, you could say that just as ministration. but even previous ones, there are a lot of double doable citizens. i think even blinking amongst them i, i believe is a dual citizen of israel as well as america. that gives you a hint where the legions lies with many is people in the administration. and obviously the amount of influence that we know, these are a lobby see america. so pro is real. i think the main surprises just seeing the disregard for the for, for human life and the cost and the toll that was worth taking in golf. there seems to be no, no concern for the people they're talking about and to be

for months, the i c. c. prosecute to face criticism of the cottage and gods unfolded cream hunts. critics, even of the un security council, criticize what they saw as, as in action to hold is we had a comfortable seas via a ceasefire. israel's allies, including the united states, mostly expressed anger. i had to run dave, i cc announcement target israel and we will talk to you that a warning letter from it doesn't us republican senate has the trenton funding and sanction i. c. c stop and their families. 3 this is bills of today in the me, a talk over the rest warrants isn't likely to have an immediate impact on the war which has killed more than 35000 palestinians and displaced millions more since october. some of the job, you know, because there is where the prime minister benjamin netanyahu has responded to the news from the international criminal court. in a prerecorded address, a bus increase the luck, they're good lessons really dislike. these are lies in the hague, is miles victory is not a lie. thes

the i c. c. prosecute is also seeking warrants for the rest of 3 senior hamas leaders for the groups october 7th, attack on israel, the funny fucker. this is out just a life and also coming up on the grounds in gaza. israel is must killing and full starvation of civilians intensifies with a 100 a killed in the past 24 hours. the radian president abraham, right, you see is killed and a helicopter crash. the country supreme leader has declared 5 days of morning. plus you can see the range of the last day of the destruction in the houses in this village. so take keys and it will piece a new crane where people in a small fishing village find themselves in the front lines of the thanks for joining us at $1600.00 gmc and we begin with breaking news on the international criminal course at the hague. the i c c chief prosecutor term khan is announced. he's seeking arrest warrants for his writing on how my sleet is for crimes committed since october the 7th. last year. the list includes this ready, prim

for months, the i c. c. prosecute to face criticism of the content you can govern folded, clean cons. critics, even of the un security council, criticize what they saw as, as in action to hold is really comfortable seats via a ceasefire. israel's allies, including the united states, mostly expressed anger. i had to monday if, if the announcement target is real and we will talk to you that a warning letter from it doesn't us. republican senators threatened to cut funding and sanctioned i c. c stuff and their families. 3 this is bill that today in the me, a talk over the rest within is unlikely to have an immediate impact on the war which has killed more than 35000 continues and displaced millions more since october. some of the javi was there. the step of austin joins us live now from needs national criminal court in the hague. and it isn't known this court. the taking swift action bought the i. c. c's. kareem khan appears to have spearheaded a watershed moment for the court. yes, this is one of the most hi

and we certainly will not join the i c, c. we will let the i c, c die on its own. after all, for all intents and purposes, the i, c, c is already dead us. and yet, following those comments, just a few short years later, as you also mentioned, washington was fully supportive of the i. c. c issue and the rest were integrated supply and demand person. so my question is, why is the quote a legitimate in some cases and irreplaceable bodies in office because the american lead, the sick, the. busy should work according to the way, and they think that the court of justice, the own, the court of justice in the world is the night of states senate and comforters. which is, by the way, and now some of its members out of sorts and needs to take competitive acts against the international court of justice. something unbelievable. uh, they don't believe in international move, the united states, the ultimate, even international. it below it communities in the law of the jungle, and in general, start whoever has the power can do it. they're like, but the, in this case, i think the n

busy a i c, c is around one in a and it didn't $58.00. the said the thing the plan over the class, i say the demand, little kind of interviews as i'm saying it's now the international. busy must be in must be enforced in bottom. surely the universe of morality and there is something like that. i do not claim to be, you know, a more of a lot to be isn't that the soul way comb on the, on. ready to clean the globe a i do believe in the universe, i'm more of the deep. then i think of the dots, as i said before, the due date for your deep and should be enforced upon all governments only and send you a chance in order fiegel is that i'm the do the bottom surely. so in that sense, in the, in, as a consequence of stats, of my basic philosophic galloway, they are lucky code stands. so i, so this, these are end of the icy c o of the above prosecute to the right one. because what's going on in gaza? the kinds that are going on, you guys, us as a bonus, see a visa, any government, and like natalie of the, by many step shouldn't be investigated. the bo

for months, the i c. c. prosecute to face criticism of the conduct in god's unfolded cream hunts. critics, even of the un security council, criticize what they saw as an action to hold is rather comfortable. ceasefire a ceasefire. israel's allies, including the united states, mostly expressed anger. i had to mondays, i cc announcement target israel and we will talk to you that a warning letter from it doesn't us republican senators, the trenton to cut funding and sanctioned i c. c stuff and their families. this is, bill is a today in the me, a talk over the rest within is unlikely to have an immediate impact on the war which has killed more than 35000 continues and displaced millions more since october. so i'm a jobby over there. okay. i wanna walk you through the next few steps and the i c. c. process. an application is made to the courts pre trial chamber to decide whether sufficient grounds of jurisdiction exist. now, if the arrest ones are issued, suspects can voluntarily surrender to the i. c. c, r, c

ok, israel not signed up to the i c. c a. does this call from the i c. c. prosecutor. i have months in the way of consequence for mister netanyahu, i need deed for his government or or if these do go ahead and, and these are arrest warrants, you know, uh, a handed down and they would be real weld implications. fill. of course, as you said, as well as not signed up to the i say say no, is it storage allied, the united states, but it's not likely to have any political implications directly on the prime minister. all the defense minister, it's not likely to save them, stand down from the positions that something like that is more likely to happen from domestic pressures which we have been saying, but haven't caused the full of the government to the state. but as you just mentioned, to then not signed up to the i, c, c, the i c doesn't have a policing body, there is no way to be able to arrest these men. so it would come down to travel restrictions as we've seen in other cases. namely, with vladimir putin of russia, that there's a 125 other countries that all signed up to t

we expect the resolutions of the, the i c, j a to be implemented without hesitation. that's mandatory and is a is, as i said, 5 due to the convention. and the convention is crystal clear on this issue. so is it a, it has to abide by the decisions and the demands from the i c, j. one of the i, c. j. provisional measures issued by the world's top court is it is real, allow into gaza united nation teams to investigate war crimes. on friday, when asked about that un spokesperson said without a ceasefire, that's unlikely. there is what the court has decided where the court is called for, which we've always called for access for investigative bodies. but obviously, unless the, the, the facts on the ground change. uh, it is not likely that anyone will be able to travel there. so the at the u. n. view ambassadors wanted to comment on the i c. j decision. most saying they needed more time to thoroughly read it. but algeria, the only error upstate on the security council made brief comments while speaking at a meeting on the protection of civilians and humana. terry and workers

i mean, considering the russia is also known to member olsby i c. c. why would these concerns last year when the icpc was issuing its warrant for flock me, proof to show him the loss i means the president is in line with the american centers, even if they are accurate or whatever doesn't matter for them, there is no model on the getting references, it's an emotional interest. they bring all their time, giving them almost all the it is trying to get it for us and as much as they want it is monday about the deadline goes to the icbc on the items. yeah. and then they still have their own pressure. they've on top, i may be in the get, i'm falling on and times on the car, but they tried to put the pressure on the judges. they try to select them by and then you know, uh is stopping the visa through us. or for example, something better freezing their bank accounts. the means the dialect lot and directly to influence the decision makins and then the inside the licensee. and also you do it, is it the it cannot continue like this the us house of representatives o

didn't just last is saying the i c. c has the right to condemn the russian president for the ukraine conflict of jerusalem development fun. chapman saw me as in july, we says that washington decides its issues of legitimacy through a lens that reflects its national interests. let's see, how does one different mission in washington, dc, it's national interest of the whole world. the mortality of the world is barely think i'm measured on the national interest of the americans. they have nation, i think that is in something it becomes a get minute if it's the palm fronds, the national things in this it becomes the project. this is the way and very much things come. they have been doing this and they know that 3 or whatever and whatever they do, the whole world has nothing to respond. they. i get that on 400000 a rocket and they have committed much deeper into them and noticed it went to a lot of times in the past. and nobody has ever decided to dig in to digging processing the i c. c. and in i see you saw a form for them. y

but on tuesday, the i c. j said that it rejected in nicaragua as case because it says that there was not enough to provide a case or a file and that there was nothing much that they could do with the crowd was complain. and the minute post simply was that germany is providing israel with aid . germany says that most of the aid was non military, whereas nicaragua suggested that the situation was otherwise. which is why uncle his current position is yes, we want to take is real and we want to hold them accountable at the i c j. but based on what, how it can fit on said on wednesday, on correct is more gene on ensuring that they have a case that is still type something that cannot be rejected. something that can be pursued. and in the long run actually hold is real accountable. but those, there's also the reality that is where there's not abide by these rulings, which will make it more difficult, not just for turkey, but for other regional actors that are ensuring that peace and stability takes folder takes take

well they can not be a blame on the i. c, c o please. certainly the glen flip side to be on those who are, makes our kind of turn collision decided on the political basis. what in direct plan to support and whatnot? you can not blame the international criminal court. what uh yeah, what probably takes days that it's hard to to play. oh yes. well i just need to feed. not so much to blame the i see. but to oscar, does that limit uh its ability to function as it's meant to be dies definitely. so when you have state to play politics with the ruler for yes, it does cause to in the ability of the ruler for now what i write and talk about this thing that somebody who was views, we must always take into account in 1945 april 1945 to days or so before he was appointed as a to possibly get out of the united states, a fund durham, but mr. dustin, some updates tax and give a speech to the american society of international in weights. he said, look, so we cannot have it really low flow that top rates on the basis of 5 national interests or because of

so we said no so, so it was a note on the i c c note of the u. n. note in the international criminal court. oh and uh, who, who did i oh, known of the geneva convention. then we're basically saying, yes, we are a head germany. that's what we are and, and we're copying to it and proud to say, right, i mean, oh, they don't talk to it and they don't say they don't even say outright. we don't recognize the geneva conventions. they just, you know, you know that they will evade the question. and it one time with this guy, matt miller, i said, do you recognize that you need be conditioned as applying to pals to palestine? and he said, we absolutely recognize that you need a convention and then it quickly went onto the next question. what do you mean to say that you recognize it with respect to palestine? is that i meant exactly what i said it's. and i said, yes, you did. it applied to palestine really? so i meant it's $790.00, zipped his lips. we really like this impression that they are abiding by international law while that are in the process of reading

for months, the i c. c. prosecute to face criticism of the cottage and gods unfolded cream hunts. critics, even of the un security council, criticize what they saw as, as in action to hold as we had a comfortable seas via a ceasefire. israel's allies, including the united states, also expressed anger. i had to monday if, if the announcement target is real and we will talk to you that a warning letter from it doesn't us republican senators, the trenton to cut funding and sanctioned i. c. c stop and their families. 3 this is the today in the me, a talk of arrest warrants is unlikely to have an immediate impact on the war which has killed more than 35000 continues and displaced millions more since october. some of the javi was there. well i'll just hear a step voss and is reporting from taking explains what the prosecute has been means for international um, for the quote itself, the after months of pressure from all sides on the international criminal court. the prosecutor here has made a major announcement w

c. but i, i do feel like the i c, c has been, the prosecutor has been influenced. i mean, we have, you know, the, the, the, the question of palestine has been on the desk of 3 successive icbc, prosecutors for 15 years. and no one wanted to really bite the bullet and do something even this prosecutor who came in there was a lot of speculation. i was with him at the i c c assembly. and in december, i've seen his body, his, his, his rhetoric and all that, many people felt he would not do anything. but this was a red line in the eyes big, but the political constellation at the i, c, c and the i, c, j is different. and it, we always assume that that there was a red line that the prosecutor of the i, c, c would not cross and that was inciting, and it was rarely official. and i think it's the, the, the, the continued honest lot by israel, the international consensus around the criminality of israel's activities. but also this case before the other court before the i c j in which the i c, j has been saying that south africa essentially has a case to answer us. and that as w

and it's more difficult than the i c. c. i think for the, for the, for the us, because the us isn't to submit treat to the rome statute to the international criminal court. the us never want to be positive and cool because it's always word the one that us military personnel could be put before the court. but the international court of justice that's existed since the stats of the united nations . in fact, it's actually a we named devotion of a court that existed in the print assessor the league of nations there in the peace process building in the, in the hey, it's the justices that you saw on the bench that they are elected by the un security council and the un general assembly is a single chain. usually they have to majority and both bodies in order to get on that court. they are renowned legal, so it goes, eliciting on that cold, it's going to be very, very hard for the bite and administration. i think to say that this is in some way biased because the vitamin ministration. remember when it comes to ukraine says you've got

this is just last year saying that the i, c. c, had the right to condemn the russian president for the ukraine conflict with jerusalem development fun. chapman saw me as seen. g ross says that washington decides on issues of legitimacy through a lens that reflects its own national interests. let's see how does this one definition in washington dc? it's national, i notice the whole word, the mortality of the word is buried, being measured on the national interest of the americans. they have nation. i think there is in something good become the getting that if it did come from the national and things in this, it becomes the budget. this is the way they managed things come, they have been doing this and they all about the whatever and whatever they do, the whole world has nothing to respond. they. i get that on 400000 rockets and they have committed much deeper into them. and others, it went to a lot of times in the past and nobody has ever decided to dig to digging processing. i see and, and i see you saw a form for them. you canno

what condemning it and saying that, you know, the i, c j is a quote for everybody as opposed to the i, c, c, which doesn't cover root countries, but the i, c, j use the u. n. old. and that covers international legislation for the whole. well, i thought there was some very strong language used there they, they did call, i think it was the, the irish foreign minister who called the the is really a tac last night barbaric. so that a significant, they also referred repeatedly to the fact that the order is binding, clearly trying to apply more pressure to israel. so i think this is encouraging. on the other hand, there's just no indication that israel or the united states are going to follow are going to follow this order. the rhetoric coming out of both washington and israel suggests that israel is going to continue to ignore the order and that the us is going to sort of turn, turn a blind eye to it. and i haven't heard from the european union. hi, representative joseph burrell, who's been talking about the i c, j reading, which is it said ordering israel to stop. it's operation to in raf