the other thing is on this section lapse and the use of british weapons in the face off both the i c, j view on genocide acts of genocide and the i c. c to section to arrest. why is your arrest warrants, or some is really the leaders actually leads britain very vulnerable because parts of the upset he projects all night in britain, britain still supplies a lot of other weapons to israel. so i don't think the legal case against britain is actually finished yet the main will be legal action taken against britain or officer will often project itself has being the country is always holds international law. so i remain skeptical that this decision will take us very much further. and my big worry that we have compressed it in the coming of now over 40000 people in gosh, right. and the arrest warrants haven't, haven't been issued yet. so let me get your, your thoughts about what we heard from both francesca and jeremy colbin and your thoughtful to do you think this is a purely legal decision or are they political aspects of play? also here, i think the government was under a lot of 1st politic

after an order from the i. c j in january the for last spring and i guess for today's show in london is jeremy colbin, an independent u. k. member of parliament and the former labor party leader is a long time advocate for the palestinian cause in june. is francesca albany. so united nation special wrap, a tour on the occupied palestinian territories and in gundy in the u. k. some palo freeman, a research coordinator at the campaign against on st. a. u. k based organization working to and the international arms trade. a warm welcome to all of you. thank you so much for being with us today on audra 0 francesca albany seen to and is that me start with you? how do you view this decision by the british government to suspend some licenses? will it have an actual impact on the ground? would it make a difference for the palestinian people? and i can tell you whether it's going to make any impact why no old artist transfers to each trailer has been suspended. the u. k. i do have stayed in new york running is just one of th

i don't think the argument before the i, c j is, is defined to the countries in the global, not. it is defined countries that are contributing most to the get greenhouse gases emissions. so whichever country but is situated in the global, non, or the south would be held accountable. so it's not distinguished by, by no off ourselves. the 60 feet to is. if you are contributing to gain of gases, you ought to be comfortable. look for those, for that condo at last year of the cold country agreed to transition away from fossil fuels. what do you think about the action that has been taken so far? following that? well, you know, what do i think? i think i'll just save what they say. the jury is still out, the door stood out because the signals that's being sent doesn't quite match with that sort of commitment. so for example, in the us a permission was quite as i'm advise for a refinery producing drugs. 69000 barrels of a day in texas was approved about a you also have english promotion was given for the with the development of an oil field in the middle. and so i think some of the set t

i don't think the argument before the i, c j is, is defined to the countries in the global, not. it is defined to countries that are contributing 1st to the get greenhouse gases emissions. so whichever country that situated in the global and on or the south would be held accountable. so it's not distinguished by, by the north, ourselves to the 6 and see to is 50, what contributing to greenhouse gases. you also have you have a common photos for that con, last here, a comp, countries greed to transition away from fossil fuels. what do you think about the action that has been taken so far following that? well, you know, what do i think? i think as i said, what they say the jury is still out on the door, stood out because the signals that's being sent doesn't quite match with that sort of commitment. so for example, in the us a commercial as glad as i'm advise for a fiery producing drive, 69000 barrels of the day in texas was approved about. i also have english commissioners given for the weight of the development of an oil field in the middle. and so i think something that is set to

were come to support that a number of countries have given to the case that we have launched at the i, c, j, the i. c. j's orders. make it clear that there is possible. there is a possible case of genocide against the people of gauze to they said, i make good care that states must also act to prevent genocide by is right and to ensure that they are not themselves part due to the violation of the genocide convention by aging or assisting in the commission of genocide, we reiterate our call for an immediate cease fire and for the release of on hostages. the only last thing solution is the establishment of a palestinian state. a state that will exist side by side with ease drive, which is general is l m s. it's capital. our motto, conscience fed that demands that we exec, every effort to bring peace, also to other countries, especially the eastern part of the democratic republic of the congo to so don to ukraine and other parts of the african continent. we must realize the aspirations of the people of wisdom. so how about to self determination. achieving and maintaining peace and security requ

i. c. j's orders. make it clear that as that is possible, there is a possible case of genocide against the people of gauze. they fail to make it clear that states must also act to prevent genocide by is right. and to ensure that they are not themselves part due to the violation of the genocide convention by aging or assisting in the commission of genocide. we reiterate our call for an immediate cease fire and for the release of all hostages. the only last thing solution is the establishment of a palestinian state. a state that will exist side by side with ease drive which is general is l m s. it's capital. our motto, conscience fed that demands that we exit every effort to bring peace also to other countries, especially the eastern part of the democratic republic of the congo to so don to ukraine and other parts of the african continent. we must realize the aspirations of the people of wisdom, so hard to self determination achieving and maintaining peace and security requires. the collective will of th

and i'm not sure that the i c j which is deliberating. this will be able to conclude that this is genocide because one would need to find documentation that there was a plan, a concert as planned to carry the so um and because this row is apparently not going to be taken over by another country, is happening. germany after world war 2 of these documents, if they exist and they don't always exist, people don't like producing such documents. but if they do exist, will either be destroyed or just kept in safe. so those are the individual comments from cabinet ministers in netanyahu's and government down to know if you need recordings. and of course the, just a, in the past uh uh, 72 hours the past week. we've had reports of recordings being stopped and at old know, taking a meeting stopped in cabinet meetings as they plan the master because we're seeing or social media to correct. this is, this is one of the problems. i mean we've, we've heard reports that the, the early debates that were happening in the prime minister's office with the hea

where the i c, j was, you know, ages ago. so it means doesn't really matter. i'll give you those and that's with the israeli population. you it, you are in june. it them a beer outside be a little bit cheaper. it, it had been glory and university. clearly the young people of israel do not simple your view. how to, you know, 1st of all the people of israel, mostly i suspect don't support my view. the people who were there who were protesting me were members of extreme right wing organizations. i don't think that the politics reflects a general view of the population, but my view on garza is very different from the views of most israelis. and what is interesting here is that the many hundreds of thousands of societies who would like that to be a ceasefire. who would like to be a return with the hostages. and just hang on that professor, i think i'll just stop you there. we'll get back to the hostages, or from the time of his all professor of all the course and genocide studies of brown university after this break the the the welcome back to going on the right. a

general assembly, the calls for is realty, and it's a occupation that has been deem unlawful by the i c, j. the international court of justice within a year christmas, really we thank you very much. that's bringing home the cell, who's on this home that you're in amman? jordan, you're reporting on israel from jordan because israel has been now since you are from importing inside the country. i mean, inside israel, what's these really reaction to this un vote as well in a few words, israel has said this, this is quote, distorted and disconnected from reality, which shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone given that was the initial statement from the countries foreign ministry because israel doesn't even acknowledge the fact that it occupies the palestinian territories to begin with. they don't acknowledge the fact that there's been an occupation for more than 76 years at all. so this is not really new from the israelis in the statement from the foreign ministry. it focused primarily on the attacks of october, the 7th that took place in southern israel and said that any sort of measures that

but what we end up with is the situation where the world's top court, the i, c, j, has said israel's occupation of policy and territories, that means the occupied westbank, that means east jerusalem. and that means gaza the i c j and said that's all unlawful. the un general assembly has taken a step, which i think is a logical saying, well, if we have this opinion that it is unlawful, then it should stop. so we're all voting on this resolution calling on israel to stop, right, and to remove uh, its people and soldiers and settlers from the occupied territories. and there's this reality which is supported by the vast majority of the populations in the countries in the world. and then there are essentially 2 countries, the us and israel, you mentioned the other countries. there's also hungry in the list, the countries the voted against this. um, and then there's this tiny group of 14 countries that says no, no, we disagree and therefore nothing changes a lot. but this is the thing, right? if the united states decides and better, i say for example, how does administration or bite it come

so that is why we need to, we need to give the i c j and the i c c actual realty. so we need to reorganize the united nations, the breed. so in the security council must go. i mean, i think, i'm sorry i'm going on, but i could go through that and i'll say, until keeps this cab particularly attracted, as i add to the idea of talking to the good people of russia. who with natalie. yeah, we've never really yet thank them. debated the germans in the 2nd world war of the cost of 22000000 dead. thank you. thank you. the resigning to people of russia for the shoot sacrifice that you made? thank you so much, roger. thank you very much for your strong voice. you have, you have influenced a lot of people around the world with your voice on doing the right thing. now, british politicians heavily invested in the war and gas as well as even the war in ukraine. now you are renown because i sent them to have a very strong voice that we have on here that over about 30 export licenses have been given out to you though in contracts with the case may be if you're standing the same ro

we cannot accept gender, so that is why we need to, we need to give the i c j and the i c c actual realty. so we need to reorganize the united nations, the breed. so in the security council must go. i mean, i think, i'm sorry i'm going on, but i could go through it at home, sit until keeps this cab is particularly attractive to us. i add to the idea of talking to the good people of russia who would never yet we've never really yet. thank them, the beach and the germans in the 2nd world war at the cost of 22000000 that. thank you. thank you. we thank you people of russia for the shoot sacrifice that you may know we didn't when the war day you won the will on the east of from you june the russian thank you so much, roger. thank you very much for your strong voice. you have, you have influenced a lot of people around the world with your voice on doing the right thing. now, british politicians heavily invested in the war and gas as well as people in the war in ukraine. now you are renown division and have a very strong voice that we have on here that the over about 30 export licenses have bee

investigation on the ground can collect evidence that there will be communications with both the i c, j and the i. c. c. investigators and this will become all, all the case against those who are responsible, whichever side of the company they all have. those people, including the estimates of your off colors, are held to the highest possible standards of international justice and accountability. right, him in the bachelor, him as chris says, here the lord is completely clear. i think it's interesting that in the pos, the, you and set country general has left it to legal bodies to say whether something was a little crime or not. he, in his very strong statements, he says, these dramatic violations of international humanitarian, no, no need to stop. now the secretary general effectively saying it's a will trying to and when the mentioned and the so when did you want to attack these on a lot of sports action? this is the addition that order continue. and it's very important that the government and to the it's not your thought to handle the international. know the it is all i in the gate a

that is, is that the kind of thing on the chevy to fund the objectivity info from the, to the i c j, which is by the or in favor but the american and what's been terminated. interesting. so the to say, you know, because the con, consult with decent data source and see the difference is the building more of just and, oh, i'm just curious, just knowing that, did you use the product and how it defense a full size? yeah. do you know the size of pain that is cute and reprise of phones and inside of the children? and so that's our admissions. well, that's all for me. for now it's always a pass inside of your company. like calling my question, i will be with you at the top of the hour so i wish you all the very good the news.

least the probability that the turkish government will use this as a case study to provide at the i c, j. and it's case with south africa against israel. this documentary time, next on all the international and full news, make sure you join us again. of the scope of the the old came out together. we were all supposed to go home together. they didn't have the, we had all went to the movies. we get to the corner of 15th and ridgewood and there's another car to sit in the when you achieve the we going to do your 1st mission investment keys for and in the back with this. and we all feeling like a really searching through our bodies. but nobody's really talking because we know what we're going to hear. a car's tires screeching out of the car, ready next to us all the way down 15 the skis. what you rates as a g a. do you don't know what these feelings are? to know that with the car stop and we say there they go. we shoot every body, shoot. we did that every night. you know, this out in the far is just constantly right next to us and this is shot, shot after shot shot. we end up crashing the we

tara, of course, we know, under international law, they are actually an occupying force there in the i, c, j. i actually consider them an illegal occupation. and the question then is why target civilian infrastructure posting officials talk about destruction by these varieties of roads of water pipes and even reports of the sniping of young boys? well, it's the same. thank you for this question. axis i may because it's the same exact the message, that is why it was trying to send when it stopped the bombing garza or bombing hospitals. medical convoys, school shows those, uh, these places that well, there is no minute that it presents or on the presence of any sort of because the message is very clear that, that sending to the policy and then people that everyone is a follow good. and everyone should leave and then all the to take control of the whole detroit. so it's not about fighting on resistance or what they call the federal is because again, on the international law, which is what that's going to those, the west bank as an occupied territory. and design as an occupying force, it legaliz

nor have they acted will respond, acted responsibly in response to the i. c, j. i genocide case, they seem to simply not care. i think the attitude is one that suggests that they believe they are above the law is but we understand is it further into areas in israel? in this case, i saw all these tensions escalating in a way that you might have predicted as well. so i've talked about this before, but there's a very delicate type rope that has blah has to, has to walk right now. they have to respond somewhat forcefully in order to re establish deterrence. they took quite a blow or really a series of blows last week. so it's important for them to respond forcefully. so in that, in that sense, i'm not surprised that they, they went deeper into israel, touching high fall last night. on the other hand, they don't want to respond so forcefully that they provoke and all out. i know a lot more israel has already threatened to do to bait or what did or has done to guys are there, they mean they, they will level better so as well obviously doesn't want that. they're dealing

and of course weapons treaties. trade is that israel is not a party to, as well as the i, c, c, the i, c, j, and very similar government thing or is our governing bodies which implements and enforce essentially humanitarian and international laws. but moving forward, there have been statements that have been provided from the group as the last we understand these deputy secretary general line caused some issue to statement suggesting that they are ready for a round incursion. if israel decided to go ahead with it and they, they failed to continue their fight and resistance against is rarely aggression. this was line cost them listen to this one. what we're doing is the minimum as part of our ongoing battle. but we know that the working belongs and options are open to us. we will confront any scenario and are prepared. these really forces decide to enter on, let, the resistance is ready for ground engage with the level of the developments just on monday alone suggests that there's been a great deal of initiative from the lebanese government as well. we understood, in the early hours the gove

who can go and in the midst of a plausible genocide that the i, c, j is called a plausible genocide. sort of, one of the tools of international law has, has called this a plausible genest. i couldn't go to the un and give a speech. and that's to you and declare that you know, this action against the route. and by the way, i'm confines that when you say work, criminal benjamin netanyahu, the father of yours. yes. the facts or the chief prosecutor at the international criminal court, once an arrest warrant out against him for crimes and crimes against humanity. the i, c. c has not issued that arrest warrant just yeah, so they throw that out there. so i think, you know, one of the, one of the problems, and again, this upside down world is that the principal is blamed for bringing this on to lebanon. and for, you know, bringing on this destruction and i, i've very much convinced that actually it's, these are normalizing states that are really the ones who are at fault here because they're doing nothing. so we see the, the and busters these diplomats who are just kind of doing word solids.

i c, j. i see. so we have cost rulings on the semester and you have to continue. it's 11 months down the line and it's likely to reach you. yeah. which is a failure on humanities ballparks to be quite honest. right now today is the day you'll be agreed ceasefire in gaza meant to allow the roll out of plenty of vaccine for local children. is that a surprise is being validated or did you expect it to hold? oh, it's no surprise. oh, nothing that was ever promised or agreed to has been upheld in the past 11 months. no humanitarian aid that has been promised as carpet in this 10 safe passages, you know, keeping civilians at bay and keeping them cities, either food, shelter, provisions, safety, nothing has been moved up to its promises. so no is absolutely no surprise backed off the 3 days these pharmacist have not seen right now. on monday, the owner was stated, it managed to vaccinate almost 90000 children across the gab, despite the continuing as flags the years the what do you make about? do you see that's successful or that's still a long way to go. i think a bit o

know what those global south voices, who would, in the case of south africa, taking israel to the i, c j. in the case of the motorized, c, j opinion. what malaysia indonesia, the african union, some states in the region. what they have done is to shift the legal discourse on this question, and if we are stuck in this american centric approach, we encourage the idea that it's not your responsibility because let's just wait to see what america says. enough of waiting, then not going to get us out of this problem and that's something that the palestinians i think i've logged into life, but don't that leadership in ramallah. and it's something the rest of us need to internalize daniel levy. we wish you all the best with your work with the us middle east peace project and thank you for joining us here at the listening posts today. thank you. the cost of aging food is the foundation of human civilization. but food today is a global commodity. if the industry did not make money, how many people would be on and how it's cultivated, the contentious debates, public interest and the public safety i

but as israel already spits in the faces of the judges of the icy c, n i, c j, the world's highest courts. will it really help maurice in ocean r t reporting from jericho and tell him eve. but archie does comedies where you can get the details of all the stories or the following this out. obviously, you again, a couple of you by now the, the mid 3 school, the teachers call me that problem too. so i was labeled earlier, i need of getting kicked out of school. i was 1617 and 18 though should have been my graduation high school with years. but his dad, i'm on the streets selling crack, gang bang and thinking that i was going to make the see 21, the i was get dressed and all red ride the bus to the hill. just walk around and wait for a group of blues to approach me 1st, i would try to fight it. agonized. i walk in the middle and then i pull out that day and watch him scatter. when i go, you know, watch was like roaches. then i got addicted to be and feel my mom was here trying to be the disciplinarian and the bread winner. but she didn't have no help. i rebelled against her, but it wasn't her

that genocide is being committed, they reject every international institution whether it's the i c, c or the i c j or the you want itself when it is trying to impose consequences for israel. so responsibility starts at the top and responsibility is that of these officials and the media institutions that or, or to to say, because the mimic, wherever it is official said, rather than challenging them. yeah. and blinking supports zalinski and as factors of a band there are going up in, in ukraine. so it's not even anything to do with jewish. and that's because very raising the memory of the jews killed in the article has been in ukraine. so what exactly is it and, and all these success very broadly being successful at um, cuz this time around, things have been different. not only because of the scale to sort of it in your country, they're, they're being mass o position to the pro israel policy of the us government. both show people support palestine in these, the hatred states. but they successfully stop to live as a student protests with the violence and intimidation. and they've even not covered the

and we want for the i c j a, as i stated. and what the entire world accepted in the general assembly with a vast majority of the pool that far exceeds until sure, the majority of the industry and most made must be made to implemented to the we rely on this resolution, which is the embodiment of international as well, as the principles of which adopted a law and the mechanisms that were adopted in this regard to guarantee implementation, we hope that this resolution would be implemented of the 1000 resolutions taken on the fox and people so such in 48 until this very day. and not a single one has been implemented yet. that doesn't, doesn't matter today, i feel very grateful this way. as i see this large, great shift as the my last visit to do a lot in the positions of member states and united nations as a support for food i. boston is right set to be an independent state that is recognized. and that deserves the full membership in this organization. as is the case, i'm at the one with the rest of the countries in the world tha

i mean, we know the cases standing in the front of the i, c j a nice to see. i mean, south africa end up in a single photo together they submitted the find. the put us in our product is by not utilize on documentations also provide a bunch of data in gaza, which sort of, he has no access to money, clinical and 8 and g olsby and the local and the dimensions and also do the same. so it is the only voice of through that it just is the only son of, for example in does that, that's the open, it's the and it's this human side life. so by shopping down such and making isn't, i mean especially though it's back now it's, it's really it's, it's, it's, it's a huge loss for the important point that you're making when as well has a case is being investigated for genocide at the international court of justice and when the international criminal court is seeking arrest warrants for the prime minister and the defense minister as well, how do you see israel's actions? the latest being the shopping down of the bureau? but everything it's done in the past years since the war and

course in israel to do anything about it and already was saying or asking questions about whether the i c j case will have a significant impact on what is what i'm doing. so even if it was, you know, taken as part of that case would actually make a difference. i don't think so. and there's also another interesting point in here was i think it's really important and it's a real expression of the love and passion people feel fashion around and her sacrifice. there's also this idea that the fact that her funeral was in turkey and that essentially almost the state funeral is almost shifting some of the attention away from the us role. just, i should know is a turkish and us citizen. but the fact that turkey are taking upon themselves sort of own, i should know, and has struggled sort of, takes the pressure off the us and, and sort of, you know, basically sort of claiming that she was an american citizen. so i think there is also some other aspect to this that we need to be mindful of. mako and jones, thank you very much indeed, we appreciate it. thank you. thank you. and garza, is there any for