i. carl rove had a telling quote at one point help said that -- he said a couple million dollars in unanswered tv ads does wonders, and i domestic think it was the wonders for the judges he was talking about. he had his interests. so, people saw the opportunity there and started putting money into judicial elections, and it was fairly easy to influence at that point. >> justice nelson, what has been your experience? >> i agree with the remarks that were just made. montana has historically been -- there's less people in montana than probably half of washington, dc. it's typically been a low-budget, low-campaign contribution state. when i ran for -- montana, you can be appointed if there's a vacancy in the office and then you have to run for election, and i've run for election three times. one of them, the last one, was very nasty and very contested. at that time the largest campaign contribution that could be made for a justice on the supreme court was $250. i raised $250,000 for my election campaign, most of which was spent on media. now, this year in montana we have a contested senate race, c

carl rove. first of all, mr. rove, am i making any mistakes in my analysis? >> so far so good but we're just starting. >> okay o. so, the reason that i think it was a good choice for america, romney selecting paul ryan, is because now we can run on the economy, the vision for the future, the debt, the budget, the deficit, all of the things that i think are putting americans in jeopardy. so that is why i think it's a good choice. it's a stark contrast. with me so far? >> yeah. in fact, i think t makes it about big ideas. there is one big idea you left out there paul ryan is focused on making these changes in entitlements, spending and deficits in order to grow the economy. he comes from that part of the republic economic school that says our first and foremost goal ought to be encourage, prosperity for all of america and by doing so, we will have a brighter future. but to do that he knows we have to put our fiscal house in order, control the spending and do something about fiscal promises made to people that we ultimately will not be able to keep and bankrupt

. >> i don't remember mitt romney asking carl rove's super pac to pull this ad, which falsely edits president obama's comments about businesses. >> people who've worked hard started a business and created jobs can't believe what president obama's saying about them. >> if you got a business, you didn't build that. >> now mitt romney wants candidates to ask super pacs to pull ads? but not too long ago, mitt romney was singing a much different tune. >> the super pacs that are out there running ads, ron paul's, mine, yours, as you know, that is not my ad. i don't write that ad, i can't tell them not to. >> no doubt, mitt romney has a double standard about campaign ads, but what really bothers me and i think a lot of other americans is romney calling joe soptic's ad inaccurate. here are the only things joe soptic says about mitt romney in the super pac ad. >> i don't think mitt romney understands what he's done to people's lives by closing the plant. i don't think he realizes that people's lives completely changed. i do not think mitt romney realizes what he's done to anyone. and furthermore, i do

i want to switch gears a little bit. you've been targeted by carl rove's cross roads group. money that's being spent against you and affecting your race. >> well, first of all, i hope that wisconsinites are now asking themselves what is it that the koch brothers, karl rove are trying to do in wisconsin. it comes down to what are you fighting for? voters in wisconsin are going to go to the polls november 6th and they're going to be saying who's fighting for jobs, growing our economy, our middle class? that's what i've been fighting for. but i apparently, we find this this is threatening to some big, powerful moneyed interests in washington, d.c. so they're coming in. they're coming to thompson's side. question is who are you for? >> it's a question i think we're going to be talking about all the way to november and certainly some of the tax policies, not necessarily going to benefit the middle class. thanks for joining me. we'll be right back. [ female announcer ] did you know the average person smiles more than 50 times a day? so brighten your smile a healthy way with listeri

i have this information in now. nbc news confirmed that american crossroads, the carl rove backed super pac spending millions to defeat president obama and senate democratic candidates pulled out of missouri's senate contest after todd akin's controversial comments. karl rove now pulling out or at least the super pac that he formed pulling their cash out of missouri. is that an indication they believe that there is no win there? >> probably so. peter alexander made a great comment earlier showing the relationship between the folks calling for mr. akin to get out of this race and the romney campaign that gives you a snapshot what's going on behind the scenes. the president was right. rape is rape. it was a ridiculous and insensitive statement and this is the kind of stuff that will be chasing down all day as republicans trying to explain to people this guy shouldn't be on any ticket. you know, the people of missouri put him as the nominee albeit approximate an eight-way race. however, it is the bed they'll have to lie in until they decide to change the sheets. i am not sure right now what the procedures are to change t

i can see her saying why should women have any less say than men about the great decision facing our nation? >> greta: we're back live in tampa. did republicans get their message across this week? carl rove is here and democratic strategist joe trippi joins us. the last one about his mother, finding out his father died made us stop in our track autos absolutely. i like to respond but j joe has been up sit i get the last word in. >> the first word. he gets the last word. >> and go on. >> i'm going to let have you the last word tonight. first and last word i believe is the best way to begin next week. >> i thought romney did very well tonight. i thought a very good night. the other thing one thing i was reminded of by this final night is that it's, i love the last night of the convention. every party should get one night, every four years to make its case. without the other party kicking the living day lights out of it. let them tell their story. i think romney got his chance tonight. i don't have much to criticize bit. i'm sure there are thing that's will get kicked around but i really thought he did well tonight. i do. >> do you have anything to say to that? >> a agree. >> and i agree th

carl rove's campaign. >> the significance of condoleezza rice sitting with mitt romney last night? >> extraordinary. i watched that. what you saw was a very visible representation of the continuation -- the speech writer for george bush said that this is just the continuation of the bush administration. i guess it is pushed 3 before we have jeb bush. a series of other people, including political consultant, policy advisers, many of whom were around jordan w. bush, all of whom karl knows. this is the kind of candidate that he wants. not some crazy, wacky republican that cannot be reined in, but a business minded conservative like romney who wants to cut regulations and taxes for the rich. >> finally, i want to ask you about overall, the bush's. the next generation of the parties brand is florida gov. jeb bush. he spoke on sunday about what he will talk about when he addresses the delegates tonight. >> i will talk about education, which is something that is not necessarily a federal program but is a great national priority. it is actually a place where the partisan divide is not a short. if one-third of

i was uncertain how long they'd stay with it. they're staying with it and it's been a dangerous subject for republicans for a long time. >> greta: carl roveat the vice president no one votes for the vice president. that you know that is not relevant for the ticket. >> i think that is true. that is basically true. it's hard to cite a vice presidential candidate who singlehandedly made a difference not since 1960 when lyndon johnson probably made a big difference in delivering texas for john f kennedy. that doesn't mean along the way there aren't things the vice presidential candidate does if it's a well received election it enhances the election of the nominee. the vice president helped put the case which is certainly what paul ryan is about tonight, against the incumbent, which was what paul ryan up to as well. he can help. ease, the vice presidential selections are rarely decisive. >> greta: each side has got its base. the other side that they're both trying to get. it seems to me undecided means ones that aren't particularly interested to dig in and make a decision. would they are watching tonight or next week? >> one of the thing that'

i can see her saying why should women have any less say than men about the great decision facing our nation? >> greta: we're back live in tampa. did republicans get their message across this week? carl rovehere and democratic strategist joe trippi joins us. the last one about his mother, finding out his father died made us stop in our track autos absolutely. i like to respond but j joe has been up sit i get the last word in. >> the first word. he gets the last word. >> and go on. >> i'm going to let have you the last word tonight. first and last word i believe is the best way to begin next week. >> i thought romney did very well tonight. i thought a very good night. the other thing one thing i was reminded of by this final night is that it's, i love the last night of the convention. every party should get one night, every four years to make its case. without the other party kicking the living day lights out of it. let them tell their story. i think romney got his chance tonight. i don't have much to criticize bit. i'm sure there are thing that's will get kicked around but i really thought he did well tonight. i do. >> do you have anything to say to that? >> a agree. >> and i agree that r

so it's possible that without the super pac machine that carl rove and some other republican party elders who is issue, it's possible that without their efforts and all the money they are raising, mitt romney would be outspent by the obama campaign. and democrats would have a funding edge. what rove and these guys have done is really it's the calvary riding to romney's rescue. at the end of the day when this election comes, you may have more republican spending than democratic spending. again, in an election where the fundamentals are pretty close, it's going to be a close election, i think really the final answer to your question, the influence can be pretty outsized because that small margin of money could tilt the balance. >> so it was the lesson of the mccain campaign. he was so outspent by president obama who didn't use pac money but was outside the system while mccain's stayed within the federal system on election spending. so they used that lesson to kind of propel themselves into these huge groups that spend all of this money. and i think you're right that over the summer certainly you

it's carl rove or david axelrod, someone like that brings money into a battleground state, it definitely has a down market. >> who is the head of the so-called -- i say they are not a party. the republican party, a mass based party. go out with ideas that are better or worse. and people give money to support the ideas they like. and karl rove and, you know, bob perry and harold simmons are the two texas millionaires who together have given $15 million to crossroads, if those three guys can dump that much money, there a party or shadow oligarchy here? >> what about george soros on the democratic side? >> i don't understand -- >> i wish. >> part of the reason, democrats in part are -- >> they are bought. look at the facts, melissa. the republican party is now building the war chest supposedly in a noncoordinated way. do you think this is noncoordinated. that is a joke. mitt romney spoke to the fund-raiser of his own super pac. let's go to the other side. president of the united states stood in the white house at a press conference and said he would allow super pacs to be formed. in fact, as members of his administration to go out and raise money fo

carl roves cross roads. >> so a lot of groups are involved. do we necessarily know who's doing all this stuff? >> yes. ie nauns of where you get a text message from. and one difference between what's going on until the obama/romney fight is that the obama campaign has centralized a very, very sophisticated use of mobile technology to target voters. i mean, they have an app you can download. on the republican side most of the sophisticated stuff is being used by group super pacs, by supporting groups that are working with the romney campaign rather than the romney campaign itself. >> you have to wonder so many people have mobile devices, do you think there's a point where we reach saturation where it just becomes a nuisance? >> we did this great worldwide poll in this issue with qualcomm about mobile technology around the world. and people for the most part are incredibly attached to their mobile devices. 84% of people around the world say that they couldn't live a day without their mobile devices. and i'm an optimist about the benefit of them and the future of them. and i think the benefits certainly ou

i. carl rove had a telling quote at one point help said that -- he said a couple million dollars in unanswered tv ads does wonders, and i domestic think it was the wonders for the judges he was talking about. he had his interests. so, people saw the opportunity there and started putting money into judicial elections, and it was fairly easy to influence at that point. >> justice nelson, what has been your experience? >> i agree with the remarks that were just made. montana has historically been -- there's less people in montana than probably half of washington, dc. it's typically been a low-budget, low-campaign contribution state. when i ran for -- montana, you can be appointed if there's a vacancy in the office and then you have to run for election, and i've run for election three times. one of them, the last one, was very nasty and very contested. at that time the largest campaign contribution that could be made for a justice on the supreme court was $250. i raised $250,000 for my election campaign, most of which was spent on media. now, this year in montana we have a contested senate race, c