i. emily mark zuckerberg was recently photographed -- he taped over the camera and the microphone, what say about the statements of security? >> it is a challenge. if you are not aware of what you a telephone could be a listening device as well as communications device. and a camera. and the camera could work different ways so people need to be aware. we are working hard with countries to establish the norms and have rules of the road. we have made progress with china. all arechallenge and we particularly such ties. emily: eric holder said it is a public service by exposing this debate. do you agree? >> i mean, i'm uncomfortable saying it is because i think he expose secrets about intelligence gathering and soelligence work that puts you can look and say well, i know about these things more but it should not have happened painted it with a recklessness and i'm not comfortable with that. said theye fbi's found a workaround do you still .elieve >> there is no reason why they can go across those records which is lawful subpoenas, lawful availability where it meets the standard of probable

i remember them. emily: is it possible to disrupt facebook? >> i think mark zuckerbergg an incredible job of execution. i use facebook every day and the innovation he is driving is quite extraordinary. emily: vic was with us. imagine dr. having the ability to pinpoint a life-threatening infection with a blood test in just a matter of hours instead of several days. we will pick up the biotech beat with one company working on just that. tomorrow, do not miss european central blank -- european central bank head. more of "bloomberg west" continues next. ♪ emily: turning now to breakthroughs in one corner of the biotech sphere. one of the most expensive and deadliest conditions in the u.s. is sepsis. it can cost more than $20 billion and kills more than 20,000 people a year. -- 200,000 people a year. for every hour it goes undiagnosed, chances of mortality increase by 8%. this new company has an fda approved test that can work in hours. john mcdonough is with us. thank you for joining us. explain how this test works. john: this -- the technology comes out of m.i.t. we have d

emily: how big of a threat is snapchat to facebook? sean: there has never been one communication where it dominated everything. they all serve slightly different purposes to people. i think mark zuckerberg done a wonderful job. i applaud his ability to understand which companies genuinely posed a threat and an opportunity, you know, to facebook. the interesting question is how does snapchat iterate into becoming more of a communication platform that enables communication that is not necessarily ephemeral. emily: you think they should work on non-ephemeral communication. sean: there is an indication that they are going in that direction. i don't spend that much time thinking about it. emily: whether it's instagram or oculus or internet.org, which do you see as having the most potential to become the next huge business for facebook? sean: the interesting question is is that next big thing somewhere else entirely? is it google x and life sciences and contact lenses that measure glucose? is it self driving cars or is it going to be something that is very close to the home? the core of what facebook is. emily: do you think facebook should move beyond the core? sean: i think communication is

i think it is unlikely that it ends up being a problem. but, that is a risk. emily: someone asked if mark zuckerbergould leave facebook to pursue the philanthropic efforts. >> he said he would stay involved and the thing to note about the structure is that it is only if zuckerberg maintains the leadership. if he decides to leave and do philanthropic initiatives full-time, this voting structure is kaput. emily: there was a question about china. let's take a listen to what she had to say. she said -- we are having trouble with the soundbite. she said the mission was to connect everyone in the chinese market and to see what happens. is the facebook status in china going to change? >> i don't think so. i think it is unlikely. i think there are core values that the current government of china will not support and it is hard to operate in a world that is operated by the government. they may try to have changes and be advocates for change. we are not holding our breath for anything take in china -- anything big in china. emily: thank you so much. coming up, apple is closer to opening doors in india. they a

emily: so when tim cook or mark zuckerberg or larry page says we had no idea this was happening, we are outraged -- general alexander: ink the issue is not that. i think the issue is a little bit more nuanced. the issue is what does nsa collect to conduct this foreign intelligence mission and the perception is nsa is into their servers and stuff. remember there was -- that is not true. emily: what is true? general alexander: nsa is not in any of the servers, to my knowledge. apple was not under my watch. apple, google, any of those. nsa is authorized to collect communications with those companies under the fisa amendment act. and what it has to do is serve a court order to do that. and only in certain conditions can it do it. emily: what keeps you up at night? what worries you most? ♪ emily: your first day in the private sector, what was that like? general alexander: my first day. it was april fools'. 1 april. knowing me and what are my guess what my friends are like, i was betting somebody would call me and say, your retirement has been pushed back. my first day, i got on a plane to go to a conference in las vegas. i

i think there is a certain imitation in the long run. emily co mark zuckerbergently photographed with a shot of his laptop. he has taped over the camera and take over the microphone. what does that say about the state of cyber security? >> it is a challenge. if you are not aware of what you are doing and saying and the apps that you have, the telephone could be a listening device and a communications device. and the camera can work in different ways. so people obviously need to be aware. we are working very very hard with countries to establish norms and to have rules of the road with respects to cyber. we made progress with china and we are still working at the limitation. but it is a challenge and we in government are particularly sensitized and careful. dallas u.s. secretary of state, john kerry with emily chang. it is tough for journalists. you go out there and get a big interview and then your editor-in-chief goes and trusts you. david: he is referring to john micklethwait. let's go to his estimates for the anti-business person. that is this week's cover st

emily: so when tim cook or mark zuckerberg or larry page says we had no idea this was happening, we are outraged -- general alexander: ink the issue is not that. i think the issue is a little bit more nuanced. the issue is what does nsa collect to conduct this foreign intelligence mission and the perception is nsa is into their servers and stuff. remember there was -- that is not true. emily: what is true? general alexander: nsa is not in any of the servers, to my knowledge. apple was not under my watch. apple, google, any of those. nsa is authorized to collect communications with those companies under the fisa amendment act. and what it has to do is serve a court order to do that. and only in certain conditions can it do it. emily: what keeps you up at night? what worries you most? ♪ emily: your first day in the private sector, what was that like? general alexander: my first day. it was april fools. 1 april. knowing me and what are my guess what my friends are like, i was betting somebody would call me and say, your retirement has been pushed back. my first day, i got on a plane to go to a conference in las vegas. i w

i think china has them challenges because of its internet policy and the nature of risk taking there in the nature of partnerships required in some things. there isomething among that. emily: mark zuckerbergographed with a shot of his laptop, but you can see in the back on that he had tape over the camera and over the microphone. what does that say about the state of cyber security in this world? secretary kerry: well, cyber security is a challenge. if you are not aware of what you are doing and saying, telephone can be a listening device as well as a communications device, and then a camera. in the camera can work different ways. so people obviously need to be aware. we are working very hard with countries to establish the norms , and we have rules of the road with respect to cyber. we made progress with china to some degree. we're still working on implementation. but it is a challenge, and in government, we're particularly sensitized and careful. that was u.s. secretary of state john kerry speaking to emily chang. coming up, democratic congas meant jared huffman will join us to discuss the 25-hour set-in on capitol hill. scarlet: this is bloomberg markets. ♪ e welcome to bloomberg marke