i called the vice president. he had gotten the news from one of the prep is nurse at fairfax and i called the vice president and i said sir this is going to be a great day. i realized i was probably trying to reassure myself. the vice president was saying incredible spirits and it was a very emotional evening for me. >> you described the surgery and when you came out of it he describes the heart refilling with blood and starting to beat again. when you woke up tell us what you felt then. >> well i can remember john was at the bedside as well as the surgeon at fairfax and they told me everything had gone very well in the transplant had gone very smooth and it looked like a good hard. once it was hooked up with the blood supply and given a touch electric glee it had taken off and it was perfect. at that point my immediate reaction was one of joy. at the same time as you go through this you are very much aware and i always emphasize as they do tonight i wouldn't be here without it. people often ask who don't understand it.

i had no pulse. i wasn't breathing. >> you were unconscious, so how do you know that all of this was happening? >> i felt my body break free. and i felt my spirit break free. and i was greeted by these people or these spirits. i could be with them and be going down this incredible pathway. and simultaneously look back at the river. when i saw my body, i will say that was the first time that i actually thought, well, i guess i am dead. i guess i really did die. >>> you came face to face with these 15 or 20 souls. who were they? what did they look like? >> i looked at these people long enough to see that they were in physical form, head, arms, legs and sort of wearing these robes and they were brilliant. >> in the book you write about dancing with them. were you celebrating something? >> yes. >> what? what were you celebrating? you just died. >> it was a great homecoming. it was as though i had been on this long journey to earth and i was home. i was dancing. >> and they took you down to this bright hal

i think that saved my life. had a series of small attacks over a period of years or i never really had what i would call a major attack. the problem of course were cumulative and the damage was significant to finally the lesson that the book is about, really about the wonders of modern american medicine to in spite of all the debate we're having over obamacare and everything else, and it's not a political book, the fact of the matter is we have the best health care system in the world. it may not be perfect, people can fix it but do not underestimate the enormous talent and creativity and courage, as john says, and persistence of those people have given us the kind of system to save my life, and not only that but allow me to go forward and have a full and complete career by anybody's standards, even though i was 35 years a heart patient. >> that leads perfect device i want to ask dr. reiner which is you write in the book that for many years the new developments in cardiac care seemed to arrive just in the nick of ti

i had no pulse. d i wasn't breathing. >> you were unconscious, so how do you know that all of this was happening? >> i felt my body break free. and i felt my spirit break free. and i was greeted by these people or these spirits. i could be with them and be going down this incredible pathway. and simultaneously look back at the river. when i saw my body, i will say that was the first time that i actually thought, well, i guess i am dead. i guess i really did die. >> in the book you write about dancing with them. were you celebrating something? >> yes. >> what? what were you celebrating? you just died. >> it was a great homecoming. and i was really surprised by and i was really surprised by 55the fact that i had no intention of going back. >> you didn't want to return? >> no. and i had all the reasons to return. i had a great life. i had a great job. i had a great husband. my children are wonderful and i love them more than i can ever imagine loving something on earth. but the love that i felt for them

i had not been accepted at yale. i was going to go to penn law school. yale had sent me, you knew you were accepted if they sent a big packet of materials. yale sent me the thinnest of letters. we are not into the catalog thing. we are yale. [laughter] not only that, they sent it to my grandparents in savannah, georgia, who never open my mail because they could not read what was in it. so they never looked at it. they eventually sent it to me, so i get this hidden letter from yale. i went to yale and quite frankly, as bad as the things are that i may have said about yale, the experience was very beneficial to me. [applause] >> what were you hoping to do with your law degree? >> go to savannah, georgia. i never had any other dream but to return to savannah, georgia. that is my number one dream. i was going to become a priest to go and help. i was going to become a lawyer to go and help. it was that simple. i could not get a job in my state of georgia. it was that simple. some people make it very complicated. i could not get a job. i looked at the firms in

and i had all the reasons to return. i had a great life. i had a great job. great husband, my children are wonderful and i love them more than i could ever imagine loving something on earth. but the love that i felt for them in comparison to god's love that was absolutely flowing through everything was just pale in comparison. >> in this entrance hall, this brilliant hall, what were you told? >> i sat on the threshold and absorbed everything and then at a certain point one of the people or the spirits told me that it wasn't my time and i had more work to do on earth and i had to go back to my body. then they took me back down the path and literally i sat down in my body. >> your friends, they thought you were dead. >> i woke up. i saw them. and then i could hear yelling. and their faces were interesting. because it was a mixture i think of absolute shock and the sense of, oh, now what do we do? we're in the middle of nowhere. when they looked two chilean young men just appeared. they actually never said anything and no one ever said anything to them but they p

i had quit the seminary, the only dream i had ever really had. i have been a devout catholic, an altar boy, and i eschewed all of those things in 1968. like most kids, you eschew hings. everyone thinks they have a vocation, if you are in the convent or trying to be a priest. that is the orientation. i thought that law would be a substitute vocation, something similar to the priesthood, where you did well so that you could do good, so that you could go back home and do the right thing. that was all there was to it. now that is about as deep as it got. this was 1968, 1969. woodstock is going on. that can be considered in the very same thinking. >> you were something of a campus radical, weren't you? >> yes but i wasn't a dope head. > i'm glad to hear that. >> the 60s were different. there were a lot of things [laughter] happening involving breaking down the structure in society. i was suddenly out of the seminary and in new england. there were no rules. things were falling apart. without structure, it is very difficult to navigate. i was extremely f

i was stubborn, obstinate, and i had to acquiesce. but i wanted it my way. when you are the child of that kind of privilege and you i wantat kind of access, to go back to the story you told who reached out to you and gave you an opportunity because, as you put it, he was a supporter of yours. as opposed to people hanging on and trying to get access for no reason. how did you decipher the two ge? the distinction between people genuinely interested in you because of who you were and those that were trying to use you for access or whatever? awarenessa really bad of that possibility. i don't really have an awareness of people crawling on my back to get anywhere. any help that i can get for , takingople outside offerings from my father. i think the cabbie ought was that i had to give something back. i did not like that position. anyone felt incumbent on to keep them lifted or support them, necessarily. by wish or by option. i can make the argument pretty easily for why you would go in the direction that your grandfather and father were already rooted and steeped

i called the vice president. he had gotten the news from one of the prep is nurse at fairfax and i called the vice president and i said sir this is going to be a great day. i realized i was probably trying to reassure myself. the vice president was saying incredible spirits and it was a very emotional evening for me. >> you described the surgery and when you came out of it he describes the heart refilling with blood and starting to beat again. when you woke up tell us what you felt then. >> well i can remember john was at the bedside as well as the surgeon at fairfax and they told me everything had gone very well in the transplant had gone very smooth and it looked like a good hard. once it was hooked up with the blood supply and given a touch electric glee it had taken off and it was perfect. at that point my immediate reaction was one of joy. at the same time as you go through this you are very much aware and i always emphasize as they do tonight i wouldn't be here without it. people often ask who don't understand it.

i imagined myself as a car that had run out of gas. i just needed to refuel, but the days turned into weeks -- they are comfy ambulances for me. but the days turned into weeks and i wasn't getting any better. i haven't run out of gas. i had run out of oil. my machinery had ground against itself and fused. if you could have lifted my hood, thick smoke would have bellowed out. i continue to cry on the couch. sometimes i would move from the couch to my bed where i stared at the leaves in our backyard. when the wind blew through the branches, the underside of the leaves looked silver blue like entrancing like watching goldfish swimming in a bowl always moving but never going anywhere. brian had started a new project. every few hours come he took a break from his work to come inside, stroke my hair and a set of reassuring things like your home, everything is going to be okay. you just need a long rest he said over and over. he was remarkably upbeat considering that his wife had just lost her mind. the tension that has steadily grown between

i called the vice president. he had already gotten the news from one of the nurse practitioners over at fairfax, and i called the vice president, and i said, you know, sir, this is going to be a great day. and i realized that i was probably trying to reassure myself. the vice president was in incredible spirits, and it was a very emotional evening for me. >> you describe the surgery, and when you came out of this, you described the heart refilling with blood and starting to beat again, and when you woke up, tell us what you felt then. >> well, i can remember jon was at the bedside, as well as adam spear, the surgeon at andover fairfax, and they told me everything had gone very well, the transplant was smooth, looked like a good heart, and it -- once it was hooked up to the blood supply and given a touch electrically, like with a pacemaker, it had taken off and everything was perfect. and i -- at that point my immediate reaction was one of joy. and at the same time, as you go through this, you're very much aware, and alw

i had not been accepted at yale. i was going to go to penn law school. yale had sent me, you knew you were accepted if they sent a big packet of materials. yale sent me the thinnest of letters. we are not into the catalog thing. we are yale. [laughter] not only that, they sent it to my grandparents in savannah, georgia, who never opened my mail because they could not read what was in it. so they never looked at it. they eventually sent it to me, so i get this then letter from el. -- from yale. i went to yale and quite frankly, as bad as the things are that i may have said about yale, the experience was very beneficial to me. [applause] >> what were you hoping to do with your law degree? >> go to savannah, georgia. i never had any other dream but to return to savannah, georgia. that is my number one dream. i was going to become a priest to go and help. i was going to become a lawyer to go and help. it was that simple. i could not get a job in my state of georgia. it was that simple. some people make it very complicated. i could not get a job. i looked at t

that i had cancer. every morning, i'd wish that this was a bad dream that i would wake up from. i was just so tired of fighting to stay alive. so i just let go. i actually surrendered to whatever it was waiting for me. the doctors were trying to put these needles into my veins, and they couldn't find the veins. the veins had all retracted. and then they were saying, this is normal for somebody who is dying. i was in a coma. they didn't realize i could hear them. they weren't even in the room. but i heard the oncologist say that i probably won't even make it through the next 24, 36 hours. >> in a way, it sounds like you were almost straddling two worlds. >> it felt like i was in a bigger world, which encompassed this world. it was vibrant. there was music. it was just incredible. but it's like it's beyond our spectrum, our ability to perceive. it's beyond our physical five senses. and it was like for the first time in my entire life did i feel that i was loved and accepted unconditionally for who i am. it

my wife and i had a prolonged conversation because i do-- i had one daughter at the time i have two now. but there were very real consequences to me leaving, so after about five or six months of having this conversation i remember my wife we were going out to a single demaio party in my cul-de-sac. she turned to me and said i'm not going to talk you out of this, mi? and i said no. she said, okay do it. go in and resign. so i drove in that monday and resigned and on the way and she told me do you know i was sick last night and she said it's because i'm pregnant. it had been eight years, so i thought the heavens do have a way of putting a price on things, don't they? so i walked upstairs and told my boss my wife was pregnant and i was resigning. he thought i was nuts and was ready to call the secret service psychologist and i walked out and they have a glass door in the secret service to take ballistic rounds a really heavy door and when it slammed it really rocket the whole building. when i walked out in that door slammed it was the loudest sound i had ever heard. it still kind of echoes

never seen me you know because i had for twenty three years i've had this you know perfect you know this fake and i hadn't seen it for twenty three years and over who use normally looks me in the eye and so and then later with my eyes oprah kept looking at my mouth and couldn't get away from looking at my mom and then after the second day she wasn't looking i'm out there the more she. and i felt so free absolutely free so no regrets that you weren't the lead in the. best man holiday it's a very it's entirely black cast right yeah we have this guy in there. but it was world to it what to show now best man came out in fourteen years yeah and nine hundred ninety eight what heechul long for for everybody has you know people go a little hollywood everybody starts making money and they feel like we don't need each other and we can you know but as life abs inflows you know finally we realized we needed each other and malcolm went back to the table brought us all together for dinner two years ago it was like are you guys willing to do this movie again and we were like

i asked him if he is happy that he had woken up. aid, "i guess," and then he started crying really hard. and that was the hardest thing i've ever had to hear him say. but i had to remind him that if he came back, it was for a reason. >> the week before christmas, your family held church at home. >> that was the morning after ben had experienced his fourth cardiac arrest. my dad felt like we needed some peace of mind. so he shared philippians 4 and 6 and 7 with us. afternoon we. >> and we all went around the living room and we took turns praying for ben and his health. living room and we took turns praying for ben and his health. and after we were finished, ben prayed for us. he prayed we wouldn't be sad or scared for him anymore because he wasn't sad or scared. and he added, i'm okay with whatever god decides. >> did that bring you peace? >> a lot, yes. he wasn't afraid of dying anymore at that point. the day he chose to make this video, we had that home church that morning, and we didn't know what he was doing afterwards, but that's

night i had been klerk, who had freed him, and i was this jewish kid from brooklyn, i wondered what im doing here. tavis: when you sit across from nelson mandela, what do you see? >> some people are special. they change a room, they walk into a room, and by their very presence they change the room. say, because to there are great figures in the 21st century. mandela, with what he went through, with what he overcame, and then, the highest act of the christian ethic is to forgive, nobody could touch the forgiveness of nelson mandela. to then have the guards who imprisoned him, attending his inaugural, what can you say? tavis: maxine waters fought hard to end apartheid, in california even before you got to congress. the very first rally i ever went to, the first protest rally was cienega,re, and la when she was leading this fight to bring back apartheid. nation, what was happening in america, and now we see nelson mandela as a hero, ut we were so late -- >> don't forget that our country and public policy did not take us to the concerns of africa. they did not have a voice. africans, they

and i had certificates that i can. and for six hours they checked me up and down and forwards and backwards. the for me it was a lot of pressure and i didn't need the extra aggravation. and therefore i was born out thursday night. friday morning a practice for the pre-start, i go in the car, i put in the second gear, i go to drive out of the pits and couldn't do it. i was so frightened that suddenly everything came over me, the accident and whatever and i physically could not drive the car. so i drove very slowly back into the pits, frightened like hell and i said to myself "what the hell is going on now?" then i had to get out of the car because i couldn't get myself going, went back to the hotel and thought about it, what do i do wrong? in the morning i got up and said i'll come back now for saturday practice which is the final practice for the race and come here as if there's no problem. just drive for myself, drive as if there's no grand prix. get the feeling on the car. don't watch the other times, people putting

i had read widely enough about the effects of war, and some of it is common sense, that i thought i had done half the story. let's do the second half, which is the new book. the first one is guys at work. the second one is they come home and now it is their families and them trying to adjust to what life has become after the war. >> you have to read it to know why i am asking this question, but you quote specifically throughout this entire book what people are saying, soldiers, wives, all that. >> yes. almost all of them. the style of journalism i do is, i guess you call it immersion journalism and it does not depend so much on an interview after the fact to find out what happened. it depends on being present and being present enough so the interview phase into the type of reporting when you are just there. you don't have to ask questions. you don't want to ask questions. you just want to see what is happening in front of you. >> they all have to say in advance or sign anything that anything they said, you could use? >> at this point in the evolution of journalism -- we use to get the b

happened in my deployment, the experiences i had had, what it was like to be on a base. i met an army officer who was getting a masters in physics to go back and teach at west point. he was still on active duty and we became friends. from there, i developed a good cadre of people to hang out with , and from there, that helped a lot. but, yes, the writing has helped , but i gather we will talk about that in a future question. >> rebecca. stuff upng how to blow does not really translate to civilian life. what i gained most from it was of sorts. i grew up pretty sheltered. was perspective of sorts. i grew up pretty sheltered. i have been an over achiever. what i learned was how to chill out, but even that is hard. i just started graduate school and i am taking for graduate level classes and him up to here with papers due on monday and tuesday. good luck. >> that has been, as you are saying, there was kind of a -- i always kindk, of felt like an outlier. being a woman in and of itself is hard enough, but being a apartment where you don't see othe

it wasn't until i was leaving that i really had the emotional release that i probably should have had all along or maybe that i should have had from the first day. i just couldn't because i realized that if i had done that, i wouldn't be able to perform. i wouldn't be able to help. i wouldn't be able to contribute and do what i needed to do to help individuals that were relying on the. as i came back and sort of adapted and integrated back into the real world, or our world here, it dawned on me that there was this whole other experience that many people were having and continue to have when they come stateside. no one knows about it. i don't mean that they should know about it in a political or geopolitical way. i mean they just don't know that lives are changed. people have served. people have contributed. they weren't asked to do that. they volunteered. i think in those stories and in the stories of the people that have helped those individuals, i think there is a lot of inspiration there. there is a sense that we should not take for granted what we have. i have read lots of books -

i had another one in mind, which was "the suicide room." when i mention that to the publisher, she said, that is just a traffic title. are you trying to put us out of business? i said, i would read that book. she said, that is really not the right title for this book. we sat and batted it around. there is something about this phrase. i was worried it would come across as judgmental in some way or people would see it as almost bitterly ironic and that was not the intention. it is a much simpler meaning, which comes down to, this is what i got comfortable with finally, if you read the book and get to know the people inside the book, you will have a better sense. if you say this ubiquitous you will have a much clearer idea of what you are thanking them for. >> how many of the people you are writing about in this book were in the first book about iraq, "the good soldiers"? the othersnamed and were circling around the edges, not named. these were people i had gotten to know during the reporting of the first book, which was in baghdad during the s

i shot him to death because of his sexuality because he had been with me and i -- i'm not gay, you knowand it bothered me, you know. it angered me a great deal. it made me really mad to think that the person had deceived me, you know, in this way and hadn't just told me the truth when we met. could have said, yeah, i'm a transsexual, you know. the person could have told me that they were a transsexual. we could have had a couple drinks and been friends and that would have been the end of it. i would not sleep with a transsexual, you know. there's no way, but i did, unknowingly, you know, and that bothered me at the time, and it still does. >> when we first started interviewing richard about the murder of his former wife, it was obvious he was still very conflicted about the situation. he was distancing himself from his former wife by referring to that person as him, them, that person. >> i wanted to take the person home and drop them off, you know, and then just go my way, get the marriage annulled and be done with it, you know, but i lost my temper and i started thinking about murderin

i suppose because it's his busy season. we hadwhat about regular re ligen. i like to think he's a presbyteri presbyterian. it's going to come pail in comparison if it happens he's a whiken. do we know where he was born? where is the birth certificate? this debate is confusing. what about the nine ladies dancing and eight mads milking? are they white. is frosty the snow man white? i don't know if i'm white. i just want my life back. >> humor is a part of what we try to bring to the show but sometimes it's lost on the humor list. the knee jerk by so many to race bait and assume the worst in people, especially people employed by the powerful fox news channel. >> bam. now we can get to important issues like is santa a democratic? merry christmas to all and to all a good night. hey, that does it for us. we'll see you an hour from now at 10:00 p.m. for another edition of pierce 360. "piers morgan live" spotarts no "piers morgan live" spotarts no >>> -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com >>> this is "piers morgan live." welcome to the vi

i had polio when i was younger.ake of the fact that it stayed at bay for so long, allowing you to advance this entire career? >> i wish it would go back to at bay. how has it impacted you in the last couple years since it has come back? >> i had troubles with my throat. i cannot eat, so i have a tube going into my stomach. i haven't eaten solid food in two years. tavis: no solid food in two years? >> i do special nutrition. tavis: but you still play your bass? >> i play my bass. house. tavis:my is that true people just come to your house? the house and hang out. if i got a chance to play with you i would come over, too. >> ruth is a wonderful singer. they are some sophisticated ladies. say some nameso to you. some of theith greats, and they have been honored to have you alongside them, but when i say arnette what comes to mind? >> charlie parker and bebop. club in l.a. his i said, i heard you play. i would love to play music with you. he said, i have got to finish this gig, and i will come over. open the door becaus

i had an account with fidelity. en i first started i didn't know where to look for ideas so i turned to forbes. people at forbes don't take this personally but i read a nifty article about an orange grower in florida. it was very compelling. i bought first thing ten shares for nine bucks. a week later a frost hit and wiped out the whole crop. my investment was more than cut in half. i was completely devastated. but not defeated. i sold it and took the capital and went back to forbes and bought seven shares of bobbie brooks. and my money was halved again. fortunately i had a decent job at a magazine. i was making 20 gs and living in less thanning a swank studio. the cheap $40 a month rent with the sofa bed, twice the rent for a beautiful apartment in tallahassee. after a particularly hard night on the town i fell in love with the breakfast at bob evans farm. finding out it was publicly traded when i went back home i visited the huge fabulous mid-town manhattan new york conglomerate. i devoured everything i could about

i had a lot of guns. ey found me mentally incompetent, i wouldn't be able to have guns anymore. and it developed to the point where i got delusional and hallucinated. i imagined my wife had been kidnapped, raped, tortured and killed by these guys at work. i thought i'd take vengeance into my own hands. and that's what i did. i shot two employees in the head, then i also shot two in the leg. >> riefland's symptoms have been treated with medication for several years. he now works in another factory, the metal shop on prison grounds. >> here you are back in a work environment. your fellow workers, did they know what your crime was? i was curious how that played out. >> i imagine some of them were a little leery, a little scared. i got a lot of respect, it seems like. >> where? >> at work and in the yard and stuff because of my crimes. >> he's not the only convicted murderer who sees fear behind the respect. when our crew arrived at anamosa, they were warned. the toughest inmate here might just be james "t-bon

i had the chops.we groups like the o'jays performing and we realized it was adjusted about singing -- it wasn't just about singing. you had to perform. tavis: stage presence is so important. now you have folks who have pirated x and electronics and all this and that, for that distracting you, they don't have a stage resins and you have always had that. we came from a generation when we first saw groups like the o'jays and the temptations and they had the micah that spread in all of them sing on one, the whispers used to sing as if we were a little choir. we all form one little spot and we would swing beautiful but have no show your once we saw those groups, we realize come if we are going to try to make it, you better get you a show. that is when we started concentrating on having a show. >> when we first saw the urges, there were five of them and they should have been called the five stallions because that is the way they impressed us. they could saying that they were performing then, way back then.

i had a birth a. -- i turned 23 in iraq. i had a birthday. i had to celebrate my birthday in a situation that was constantly reminding me of my own mortality. i had my daughter in march of 2003 and redeployed to germany in april of 2003. i met up with my unit in iraq in july of 2003. i did not see my daughter until nine months later. the kind of personal separation and personal experience, that really placed a huge psychological word in upon me because it is such a remote experience -- burden upon me because it is such a remote experience. coming back home, i really wanted to start where i thought i had left off. i had a lot of college friends around me and they would never -- they wanted me to talk about my experience in the military and i pretty much was like no, let's just pick up where we left off. for many years, that's how i dealt with it. these are my experiences. i kept them in a box, and this was the person i wanted to be again. transforming from that and realizing that life had gone on, and you are a mother now and not the young gir

then i had to go in front of the world and tell them i had hiv. talking about an emotional roller coaster ride on that day. so it was definitely a hard day. and the unknown. i'm a control freak. i like to control everything. and then i was out of control because i didn't know what was going to happen. and i'm not used to that. you know? and so it took me a long time to come to grips with my new status. how to deal with taking my meds three times a day, which was really difficult for me, because now i have to put them every place i'm going to be. and then i had to take 15 pills three times a day, because i was a big man, they said they didn't know how much i should be taking. so they were going to measure me from that dosage. and then move me down, hopefully, and that is what happened. >> what kind of drug regimen are you on now? how many pills do you take a day? >> oh, man, it is so wonderful. i take three pills one time a day at dinnertime. you go from one drug, now you got over 30. you went from the cocktail first came out -- one of those drugs h

i was young and i had promised my father on his deathbed that i would go to college, and i had not finished college. well, i went to annapolis on the weekend of the ring dance. i do not remember what they called the weekend. he asked me again, and i accepted. i was still young. >> it was july 7, 1946. >> that's right. >> you said your father died when you were quite young. >> 13. i was the oldest of four children. i had two brothers and then my little sister who was 4 years old. my father developed leukemia. i didn't know he was sick and had been wanting to go to a church camp in the summer, and they told me we did not have enough money for it. and then one day i came home from school and my dad asked me if i would still like to go to the camp. i said great. what i didn't know was he was going through at the hospital to see what was wrong. he died maybe -- that was in maybe may and he died in november. >> how did that affect your role as the oldest child? >> everything changed for us. i was the oldest one. my mother had never written a check. she went to college for two years and had a teac

i had a wife. i had a baby on the way.ife for this. >> when they came to get me to say pack it up, you got to go, i gave away almost everything i owned. and there were some handshakes and some hugs. as i was leaving, the guard was escorting me off, people started making noise and hollering good-byes and other profane statements of encouragement. and they started yelling and there was some fist pumping up in the air. and a couple of the guys were beating on the tables. the guard got a little uneasy, he was like is this a riot or what? looked up on the second tier, just lined with faces and people were yelling and cheering. i never expected that. and i love those guys for that. it was just such a send-off. completely spontaneous. it was just the strangest thing and the most wonderful thing. >> after spending nearly 25 years in prison for the murder of his wife, a williamson county man is now free due to dna testing. >> camera rolling as michael morton -- >> -- in 1986. he was sentenced to life in prison -- >> those attorneys

i had to literally make my way up to open up the hatches, so i used what strength i had left, and i justlapsed after that. ] here's a question for you: if every u.s. home replaced one light bulb with a compact fluorescent bulb, the energy saved could light how many homes? 1 million? 2 million? 3 million? the answer is... 3 million homes. by 2030, investments in energy efficiency could help americans save $300 billion each year. take the energy quiz. energy lives here. mmm! this is delicious katie. it's not bad for canned soup, right? pfft! [ laughs ] you nearly had us there. canned soup. [ male announcer ] they just might think it's homemade. try campbell's homestyle soup. >>> one of the biggest challenges is transitioning from a military life to civilian life. >> yeah, let me make her a bottle. >> some of these guys have made five, six, seven tours. you live that way five, six, seven years, you know, how do you expect to come back and just be normal again? >> i'm married to my beautiful wife adrianna, and we have six kids. this is, like, the most stressful part for me right now. you're

i had severe shrapnel damage. om the second that went off, i went totally blind. >> i'm medically retired, primarily for post traumatic stress disorder, traumatic brain injury. >> i underwent 22 surgeries to save both of my legs. the final surgery, the 22nd, was an amputation on the left leg below the knee. >> we have them show up at 11:00 then he can do lunch with the guys and kind of talk to them and thank them for building his home. >> back in 2009 i was still a full-time builder for profit and trying to grow operation finally home. and it just got to be too much. and i met this wonderful guy that was working for another non-profit. we just hit it off. >> well, i'm going to pass the ball to dan, so i have no problem doing that. dan's marching orders to me were i want to go national. i want to expand. we do a flier, i can send it to the local radio station. we're the perfect odd couple. he knew the building system. i knew the military and non-profit systems. in 2010 dan would be selected as one of the top ten cnn

they thought i had lupus. they thought i had m.s. and i guess fibromyalgia is a pretty large umbrella. you can't just do a blood test and go, oh, you have fibromyalgia. >> what is fibromyalgia? >> it's a musculoskeletal disease, it's associated with the nervous system. >> is it like autoimmune? >> yes. you have trigger points. so you can be really tender. i'd go to the doctors and say, doc, i feel like i have tendonitis all over my body, like i'm bruised. i look fine when you look in the mirror, but i ache everywhere. it's inflammation. the inflammation causes the nerves to overrespond. so you ache, you burn. i mean, the water hitting me in the shower was horrible. >> what other symptoms, you ache, you burn, dizziness? >> not so much dizziness. total fatigue. >> total fatigue. >> because you can't sleep. you cannot get to sleep. you need to recover. >> sheets hurt you? >> everything. i hated the sheets. i hated water hitting me when i showered. >> how did the military handle this? >> unfortunately with prescription medication. >> you

i turned 60. my mom had just died. to live.2 years it blink your eyes -- you blink your eyes, ten years has gone by. it took that long of being timid and fearful. i wanted to be bold and i pick something that will wake me up and feel alive and alert and take every ounce of unwavering commitment of it. what will it be? what will i do? i will go back to that dream that has haunted me. will i have the shoulders? will i have the will? into the cuba swim that nobody has ever done. since 1950, they had been trying. lots of people. at that area of the world, there is no famous body of water. it given the people that tried to make it across on rafts. it is a 100 mile stretch. for the open ocean summer, it's a long way. boom fellow generation will say, right on. show us the way. there were all kinds of non- swimming things motivating me as well as the sport itself. and since that day four years ago, i was 60. i have been in the world of unwavering commitment and it has made me hi. i'm not doing any more marathon swims, but i wil

i had an oldsmobile diesel, i think you remember that fiasco. audi when they had the unintended acceleration, i got that model. get it, but why is it so important for you to drive a car at the bottom of the list? >> everyone thought i would be driving a lexus or bmw or , and it dawned on me that i should not be driving one of those vehicles, because that was getting -- those were getting the top ratings. so i purposely would buy one that wasn't rated very high. 1982, theyback in asked me to drive it. of course it was on the very low end of the ratings in those days, and i drove that and had an accident -- not an accident, but i was driving to the airport and the engine stopped. i pulled over on the side, and i missed the flight. toot on the next flight washington, d.c., where all the and thees were meeting, head of jaguar saw me come in. of ased the better part cocktail party, but i got there in time for that. he said dave, how is the jaguar running? [laughter] i said, it isn't. and i had never seen anyone's in front of all his competitors. tavis

i only had life. nce project time to do this. >> i would like to say this is one of the happiest days of my life, and i thank god for it. >> we are so thankful the truth finally came out. >> yes. >> and we're happy happy happy. >> okay. thank you all very much. >> it was a somewhat chaotic. there was a procession, cameras were everywhere. people, i didn't know which way we were going. >> all of this time rushed back at me. my time of only seven years, michael's of 25. i stopped with michael, and i said, when you step outside, breathe freedom. >> the sun was beaming down right there. it was this beautiful fall day. the sun felt so good on my face that i kind of tilted my head back to get a suntan or something, trying to just drink it in. >> the day of his exoneration, i think they broadcast it on the internet and on the news in austin. i remember seeing my father probably for the first time outside of a picture online that we saw or an old family photo. but i felt like things were changing. it was visua

i had frag laying everywhere. i crawled into this rock embankment. started taking dirt putting in all my wounds so i wouldn't bleed to death. >> you had no medical gear. >> huh. >> did you have a map? >> it was all gone. >> did you have a compass? >> gone. i didn't have pants on. they were completely ripped off me. >> latrell had been fighting for hours. his three s.e.a.l. brothers were all dead or near death. petty officer danny dietz from littleton, colorado had been in charge of communications. matt axelton was from california. he was a petty officer and sniper. lieutenant mike murphy was the team leader. they were part of a larger mission called operation red wings. their job was to locate this man whom the four s.e.a.l.s had only seen in grainy photographs. he was an elusive militia leader arm aligned with the taliban. >> he had a group called the mountain tigers. he was creating all kinds of havoc out there in the particular region he was in, killing marines, army, you name it. >> latrell was based at bagram air base outside kabul. he said his

that is the question i had to deal with, and i began to realize that the seeds had been planted deeply over many years and many bubble episodes. 2001. why did they panic when the dot com crashed? you have to have that every now and again. cutting the interest rate to zero. starting a housing bubble. and this went back to 1994. this began to go back into the roots and the period of the fed, until i got myself back to the founding of the fed, and the reason i did was not simply a matter of economic archaeology but also because i believe that partisans today, with the crisis we have, have mythologized enormously things that have not exist. keynesian economics and the new deal, first, was not implemented, and second, it was not the great depression. reaganomics and the 1980's was not the greatest thing since sliced bread. part of the book is designed to demystify the legends of both the left and right and trying to get out of the truth. >> let me go to something that seems to keep happening. this is the way it is. some say, "i really did not mean it then." i just had to say it. when are we

i think he pay for what he had done. >> i will get out. this isn't going to be forever. >> coming up -- >> my nickname is lefty. because i have the one arm. >> the loss of an arm leads to tragedy, and murder. ♪ as we sing holy holy holy >>> when we met brian at california state prison corcoran, we had a pretty good hunch that the origin of his nickname would play a major part in his story. >> my nickname is lefty. never been called lefty, it's because i have one arm. at 18 i was the victim of a drunk driving accident when i was in the air force. >> the other thing that was significant about brian to me was he was the height of irony on a lot of levels. he was a good example as to why you don't want to take justice into your own hands. his crime was that of a vigilante. >> you know being a christian means you don't have to be scared of your past because your sins, no matter how ugly they are, and we have some ugly ones in this room -- >> he is an inmate preacher at the prison's chapel and can trace the ugliest of his sins to a bizarre serie

i think i had, you know, i had -- i know you've had this experience, too, where you go and see somebody, and you wonder how much of what they told you is true and whether you'll ever see them again. so with each of the main six young people who stitched the narrative together for me, um, i probably had ten who i was thinking about playing a certain role. and jonathan from the beginning, since i'd gotten to know street kids in johannesburg and durbin and capetown was one of those kids whose story kept haunting me because of where he had come from and the way in which he talked about the choices ahead for him. and it really probably was the fourth or fifth time i went and just hung out with him, which is always a challenging thing, you know? you're an older, white guy from america hanging out with colored street kids. and as a result of that, you probably have to spend more time doing it until you fall into the background. with him i think he ended up finally telling we the whole story -- telling me the whole story because i kept coming back, and because with i asked. i kept asking. i rem

i had a very strong father. and he was a very strong role model. and unfortunately, he was not the one i needed. i didn't fit into those roles, and i felt like i was continually not measuring up to this idea of what it means to be a may be. maa man. so we have to redefine masculinity as strong and femininity as weak. >> google keeps mentioning responsibility and fathers not being there, but there seems to be a dynamic of fathers and sons where the older generation, if you were macho, you were stern and never said i love you. >> my father has never, in 30 some odd years of life, tell me he loved me. we didn't do that, emotions were not allowed to be shown, and i tell my son i love him every day at this point. >> some of the older generations think that saying i love you is weak, and that's what women do, and men don't show emotions, and what has your response been to that? not only the bonds, but what it means to be a man. >> coming from an asian family, most asian families, where the father is the head of the family, makes decisions, takes charge, a