and i have worked for the -- i have worked for project open hand. i have worked for shanti. i have worked for lgbt community center. i've been involved with the san francisco -- court. i was misdebutant, royal crown princess, court member of the year, court best female dressed, i was given the humanitarian award for their thing. and let me see. i'm one of the survivors of the -- cafeteria riot. i'm just one of them. i'm sure there's many of them but i'm the surviving one. in 2007 -- harris did a documentary of felicia and interviewed for the project history award -- have it ended. it's very hard to give a senior five minutes when they can take an hour. and one thing more. in 2012i been given the vanguard award for the transgender law center which will be done in october. one thing i really suggest that if it's lgbt, i wanted to be lgbt. i want no longer for the t to be silent. we want equality within our lgbt community. thank you. >> chair kim: thank you. next, we have frank strona and helene wenzel. frank is not here, then helene wenzel and james illig. >> i am awed by your

>> i have to see who it is. i am not sure they did not get their keep year ago -- their key. >> i just need accountability on the key. if it was left open, it needs to be done. if the gate was closed when it was required to do the kept open, who was the person from your company to complain about that? cracks are manager -- >> our manager. >> we were shown a list of times and days when it was not. >> i do not know who is closing in. we open and close it from 8:00 until 5:00. 5 who is the manager? >> there are two. >> of the managers do not respond to the request of the gates are closed, are you the person? >> yes, i have been called directly. i went over and checked it. we make a big effort. i cannot say the person did not get the key. we have never denied any won a key -- anyone a key. >> you are the permit holder? >> 643 jones. >> now we can take public comment. >> i live in 691 post street. i do not understand how it is mr. flynn controls the keys to the alleyway and not our managers. i applied approximately a

so we have lots of activity going out there. i would submit the people we have upstairs are not just because of tacolicious, because it is in compliance. if you'd like to hear from the expert on acoustical engineering, we have christina from charleston salter and associates. she's done a comparative study. showing they are under 45 decibels. in the late night period, from 10:00 to 7 a.m. they are under 55 the rest of the day. the major complaint of the noise, again, it is not emanating from tacolicious. as far as being good neighbors, you couldn't ask for better neighbors than these people. they have worked with entire neighborhood. engaged as liaison. you will hear from the opposition and management team, joe hargrave and his partner, telmo feria. they have worked with everybody. anything that's come up they have worked with them. that is the bulk of information i wanted to impart with you this afternoon, thank you very much. i'm available for questions later on if you have any. >> we will go to public comment, pulling a couple c

in california i rarely have to worry. i was in green bay and i started to talk about father greg and no one had any idea what i was talking about. i have known greg boyle for 25 years. i worked with him when he routinely received death threats. people believed he was trying to help gang members. the lapd called him a hug- hugger. i will repeat everything that they have said, not because of sore afraid of using profanity but because it was a different lapd. it was rumored that the mexican mafia was allowed to meet in his church and that he held guns for gang members. and he was helping gang members across the border. i am certain he knew where the body of jimmy hoffa was buried when you got done listening to the rumors. now, the lapd uses home with industries as an integral part of its anti-gang efforts. not all of them, not 9000 members, but i can tell you this, homeboy industries have their annual benefit to honor people in the community as well as former gang members, the person they honored was chief charlie of the lapd

and why i have a few brief comments. i reviewed -- >> i have a few brief comments. i reviewed the introductions, and what is most disturbing is there seems to be a conflict between facts. when the brief says this is a fact, and another says this is the fact that is in conflict. i am satisfied at a brief that was filed by the recreation and parks department has much more credibility than the so-called facts presented in the appellants degrees. it does not make any sense. i live across the street from the park. i am also an architect, and i am familiar with the project process of many agencies all over the bay area, and when i read things saying what they say, like the light and dark colored tables and the bus stations, if you are familiar with the building code of san francisco, there is nothing that requires that the reaganite i think there is something about the limit and definition of the project -- and requires that. i think there is something about limit and definition and the appropriate response -- there is nothing that says you have to have light or dark color

in i have worked with thousands of batterers and programs. e of trained people all over the world, even in singapore. i keep doing the work because i am very optimistic that if men who are violent get treatment and it helps, syria's help that deals with the violence, they can certainly recover. i hope ross gets to do that, because he is very popular with his supporters. is an excellent political program. that is where i think as commissioners, as citizens, we have to draw the line. there is a certain question about the willingness to do violence, particularly as a public official when you have 80 people in your jail right now better there specifically to stop the violence. command influence is a very important factor. in my contract i send that to people around the world who want to have this program. i first line is we require the entire command staff to be present for the first four hours of training so that they will understand the gravity of their role in supporting -- >> thank you. >> good afternoon. my name is karen l. levine. i am a ret

i look forward to the conversation we'll be having today. and i will yield the floor to supervisor cohen, but after that we'll go to the mta for their presentation. >> supervisor cohen. >> thank you legislation before us and we have a number of areas all throughout the district that do not have parking restrictions. this has led to many problems with a number of oversized and abandoned vehicles, many of which accumulate graffiti and obstruct pedestrian crossings blight in the neighborhood. and in evaluating this proposal, my office discussed the legislation with a number of merchants, as well as neighborhoods organizations. i will admit i look forward to having the ongoing conversation with the homeless coalition, but what i have heard from nearly all corners of the district, including bayview and other areas that they are actually in support of this legislation, because it's a pilot program that recognizes the impact of these [sthra-ebgz/] vehicles that they have on our neighborhoods and takes into consideration and accommodates those that m

i have been part of the lgbt community. one of my greatest i school memories was being out with stop aids, probably as the youngest female member of the time. as an adult, i have been involved with san francisco general and the haight ashbury clinics. i am a little nervous. i have also been involved in burning man and the art projects. i know eli spear personally. he is a close friend of mine. i have worked with him closely on projects. i know his dedication to the community and art is incredible. that is why i am here today, because i have been a patron of the eagle talon. i have loved the eagle tavern very much. i miss it. i am also here today to say it is empty right now. i know there is an amazing opportunity. i think is part of a group that can bring something special and new to the space. with their dedication, it can be a new place of art and community, music and bring everybody together. maybe not in the same way it used to be, but in a new way that we can also celebrate. thank you. supervisor elsbernd: thank you. ne

i have heard the horns honking on a daily basis. i have seen car accidents. i drive, and i need drive. and nine times out of 10, i park on masonic. whether across the street or a block away or five blocks away. i park on masonic because there is no other place to park. is there no paid parking. the buildings in my area aren't single family homes. they are apartment buildings. which means even more cars in the area. the thought of having my neighbor's parking taken away scares me to death. and i think if you were faced with the same prospect you would be concerned too. so i think while changes do need to be made. and i wanted to say the statistics about parking. i think those are way off. and had i known of the other meetings going on, i would be at those too to voice my concern as well. i think that parking needs to be factored into this. and a lot of reports i have been reading, a lot of articles i have seen. seem to gloss over the fact that parking will be gone. and not just one spot [bell] not just five, but hundreds of parking spots. thank you. >> thank yo

i am for the best society that we can possibly have. so i'm saying to you, that i know each of you had this hard decision to make. some of you can't even look at me as i speak, because of the situation that you have been called to do. in domestic violence cases it's really hard to get a conviction in san francisco county. and so the plea bargain that ross took is the plea bargain that allows police officers to keep their jobs. it's not a crime of moral terpitude, and this is that standard thing. it's the plea bargain that is designed for the person to not lose their job it's the plea bargain designed so that the breadwinner continues to have employment, health insurance and medical benefits for the family and it's the plea bargain that allows the criminal justice system to allow that person to be rehabilitated and to -- i don't know, be rehabilitated and pace pay their price to society and the like. that is what ross did. i'm not ross' lawyer. i was never ross' lawyer, but we would not have been convicted in a jury trial and instead, to

and have a dream and get sick at this point. i u is there a story here? that's the way it begins for writers. people think things jump out and we have it in our head. it's the opposite we have nothing in our head. we turn on the machine and praying for something to come. with women of the silk i researched for 6 amongs and read and read and read. in one book i found 2 lines about the woman silk workers and knew immediately that's hai wanted to write about. it came to me like a dream that every writer prays for that you just knew you wanted to write about this. with the second book it was difficult i sat down and didn't know what i was going to write for about 6 months. which was fearful for me because of the fact i knew i didn't have the second book. steven's story, i asked myself questions. a lot of writers do that that's usually how i begin. what did he do? who did he meet when he got off the train? who was this man servant? what was his life about? it all began with the seeds and the particular questions, as simple as that. alt

i have a power boat. would say about 25% of those are powerboaters and the other 75% are still boaters. just by way of information, and i will pass this onto you when i am done, we are at 501c4. i have an e-mail address i will pass on to you. i want to first of all thank for communications peter daily jim walters, forgetting is going. -- for getting us going. elaine is here, too. we have a copy of the $1 million loan. we have learned there is the assumption of a bond that was converted to debts. we learned that. it was good that we knew that. and we now know the operational costs of the harbor. we see that there are some low hanging fruit, for lack of a better term. they will probably garner $70,000. there are no free rides. there is no longer a free ride. bettis $70,000 a year. landing fees -- there are many non-paying charters the just drop, picked up, do not pay a thing. they have to pay their share. we have to name the harbor something. we do not care. oracle, south beach harbor. we are ok with whatev

so i have dedicated this poem to iraq. i think it will be helpful for you to know el kubenchi, along with el watanabi. el kubenchi is famous for music, a great history and tradition of music, and he has taught all the gray modern singers of the 20th century who came out of iraq. his music has touched me and you will hear it in this poem, 32 beads on a string. i woke from the nightmare of a gutted macom, not because i have not yet bled my life in yellow, but because minarettes looking sky ward. one burly buffalo looking for hooves and hot breath because the skin is not yet numb and the lights are not yet flickering, i will continue to sip at my hot tea and stare at the dust-colored noon. one white dasha screams with the brilliance of red. can you hear them, the melodious intent, the glimmering mood in their eyes. face stitched by seam, a garment i have sewn to my skin. whatever remains of el gubenchi's 1932 cairo studio recording lives between the old cobblestone quarter and my still-warm mahogony ear. i should have gotten u

i can. thank you. >> chair kim: thank you, mr. saxxon. we have michael costa and then lawrence nelson. >> thank you. i really appreciate this opportunity to speak. i'm mik michael costa. i got a masters in public policy from university of michigan and spent most of the last 30 years designing, implementing and evaluating innovative programs in the healthcare area. as someone who just turned 60 a few months ago i'm looking forward to another 30 years of doing that. and most of what i've been doing and continue to do is involved in increasing access to affordable coverage. and unlike most i'm a -- i think i would be the wonk on the task force. i've had the opportunity to actually get involved in implementing innovative programs, pilot program in manhattan on the west side of manhattan from the west village up to the upper westside that was targeting lgbt who didn't have access to healthcare. and also i helped bring -- steven market, which are two drugs which have become important to our community, especially as hiv has become a chronic disease. and

i have three young children. i object that the mcd -- i want my next generation to be better so they don't have to pass by the area because every single day, they have to walk by that place. thank you. >> thank you. >> my name is peggy. i object to that. >> thank you. >> so, my name is can jew, i object to have the mcd place to be there. we live in that area and then every single day, we have to pass that particular area. i do not want -- our air will be polluted with the smell of the marijuana. thank you. >> next speaker, please. >> my name is ku len yaoe. i object mcd. because it will affect the children as well as the safety of the area. >> yeah. >> my name is beijing wong, i object to mcd because the smell of the marijuana will pollute the air. thank you. >> my name is fen knee yu, i object to open an mcd in the area. because i believe in an area where they open the mcd, the safety and the security in the area is not going to be good. >> thank you. >> my name is joanne chan. i live in the area and i have two s

i have nothing against him. i worked closely with him when we were fighting against the dog restrictions proposed by the golden gate national recreation area and we i think did very well in that fight. so this is not personal. this is about the task force. and i understand there's a disagreement, and i completely respect that. but i did want to provide my perspective. thank you. >> chair kim: thank you, supervisor wiener. we have a motion on the floor and i'd like to take roll call on that motion. >> linda wong: on the motion, supervisor farrell, no. supervisor campos, aye. supervisor kim, aye. >> linda wong: twoize, one no. >> chair kim: thank you. motion passes. madam clerk, can you please call item 4. >> linda wong: hearing to consider appointing 15 members in -- terms to the lgbt seniors task force. there are 15 seats and 44 applicants. >> chair kim: thank you. and ms. wong, could you list the members that have e-mailed either the clerk or our office that have withdrawn their application. i've got at least tw

for what i have done, but i still have no connections. it is still up to me to do that? i am doing everything can. i do not know what else to do besides try to make a profit in a city that is over-taxing the and running down. [applause] >> i do think that you can do a lot through talking to your city supervisor and working through that process. i am telling you, there are ways that began help you. alcohol is a local issue on this type of matter. what we are behind would you guys want to do, whenever that is. a lot of times we do not always have statutes that make that much sense. it is partly the ways that the laws have evolved and we are the ones who are stuck with enforcing them the way that they are. that does not necessarily mean that we think they are particularly good ideas, but we certainly want people to grow, prosper, and be saved. that can be achieved in all sorts of ways. we want to work with you on that. thank you. >> i was the founding president of the entertainment commission. i retired and went on to found the culture associ

and i think that this will separate people who have need from those who don't. and i want to add that the coalition challenges us to have resources available and that is a good conversation that is a role that they should play and i want to commit to you that i am carefully monitoring the availability of services. and i will not stand before you, or a camera, or my boss, the mayor, and assert that we have either rooms or shelter beds if they are not available. and so, that is something that i think is very important because i do believe that in the past, there have been times when people have said, yes, we have services to provide. the reality is that our shelters we are running at 96 to 99 percent, our stablization rooms we have a couple of handfuls of them right now, and we are working to provide more i want to thank the department of public health and we are working with the budget office and so we are going to have an additional beds that have services around them. so we are carefully monitoring this and i do take the boards' concerns seriously and go forward

i have enough of my own. >> i hope you will be sharp enough to answer the questions the audience has for you. rather like the academy awards. [applause] these questions have come through on various means. can we have the first question? >> the first question -- i am going to compile a group -- a lot of people are asking what is currently inspiring new? from different cultures, the internet, textile design -- what exciting things are you seeing in contemporary textile design? and what are you reading? >> definitely, that is very sad, but i have not enough time to read. that is the very sad part. so i'm not enough reading, but i'm getting older and getting closer. now that nobody is doing any more reading, i will read. no, i think honestly, it is a question of time, but reading, to bring inspiration, but that is the problem. i get into a book and say that i can make a collection of that after, like, three lines. one time i did an existentialist collection years ago, and i was thinking, so i read a book to no more, to get into it, and sometimes, the explanation can teach you. i read abou

but i do have a question about the amendment and i hope that i have the right version of it that was introduced by president chu and i believe that supervisor chu is also in agreement. and i am trying to understand how this works. because the amendment reads, on-line 21, that the mayor's office on hope, and municipal transportation agency at its discretion shall report what does that mean? >> does that mean that there will be a report? or does that mean that the report is left to the discretion of the agency in i think that that is kind of confusing. >> i can respond to that. >> the reason that was put in was simply the mta has its own authority, its own board and so we cannot direct them to do or take action. we can only suggest and say that it is at their discretion. we have representatives from the mta here who can speak to it and i am sure that they are committed to reporting on all of these items. >> thank you. >> and the other thing that i would add to that is at its discretion language qualify the mta but it does not state that month the mayor's office that it is on discretion.

i have admired the way you have conducted the hearings. i think you have done a pretty fair job. i would just like to see a little bit more fairness on the culture of the wife and i wish ross mirkarimi all the best. i hope he gets his job back, the benefits and the back pay and the family coming together. i met the little boy sunday. beautiful. it's a beautiful family. it's not as bad as you think it is and kind of lighten up a little bit. let's have this go after the vote, the election. thank you. >> hi. my name is paula canney and i'm not speaking as anything other than me. and i am actually speaking to say i realize how much time each of you has put into this and how difficult it must be. so let me talk a little bet. i have been a criminal defense lawyer for 32 years. that is a long time to do anything. and i was a deputy district attorney in ventura county in this pilot project of domestic violence prosecution, the first one in the state in 1981. i'm not for domestic violence. even though i am a criminal defense lawyer, i am for love. i am for passion. i am for forgiveness. i

>> i get sick if i have vintage food. ed potato hads -- potatoes that were vintage and i was sick. >> we don't call old people vintage because they are [bleep] >> that's terrible. >> will they bleep that? >> sometimes i just say explatives just to make you write stuff down. >> i know you do. because i have a malfunctioning hand and it is painful. >> just keep writing destroy bill, destroy bill, destroy bill. >> jesse's sweatshirt is so vintage you can see a pizza stain from college. >> that is true. >> you were a model for skater dudes pushing 40, right? great magazine. i have to say, nothing else really. >> i think you actually think i am near 40. i am not even close. i just smoke a lot of cigarettes of the. >> how old are you? >> 33. >> wow. >> and are you still -- >> i like people's reaction. >> wow i must look terrible. >> tall people look older. short people like me look younger because we are so infant like. sometimes i am walking down the street and they say, oh, where is your mommy? >> and that's why they are [blee

i participated with the community the whole time i have been there. i was the president of the merchants association for fishermans wharf for seven years. i am on the board of governors still and the board of governors and share the fisherman's wharf waterfront advisory group. i am closer and touch with the police department than most people. the previous capt.s -- previous captains have made great changes and making sure travelers and visitors who come to san francisco are protected. probably some of the finest officers accepted in the street by visitors would be an officer on bicycle. these guys do great pr work in addition to having the flexibility of going through traffic. the captains have always kept open forums with the community and meet regularly. we are very fortunate and i think some of the other places the city gets shorted but we have never been treated better since the time i have been at fisherman's wharf. thank you. >> thank you very much. >> i am from work for the elderly. thank you for bringing the police commission meeting to this co

have a motion. is there a second or any further discussion? >> i know last week we have some reservations about not rotating between different sectors, not so much with the three years, but part of it was my understanding of how the process works. today i feel confident in extending it to three years and actually allowing the chain so we do not have to switch back and forth between -- allowing change so we do not have to switch back and forth between sectors. it is being able to run a meeting. i like to be able to a let the chair every year. -- to elect the chair. i thing it is billed in each year, so to me that makes me more comfortable about who is the right person at the right time. i think john has been a great share -- chair while i have been here. good >> i want to add that a person should bee here for of least a year. good i move --i move that the commissioner should be at least one year. >> that is fine. but i will be long gone, but the one concern i make about that requirement is we might end up with the situation where -- now with a forum

don't think, i would have liked to say i would have been a more buddhist embracing nature. my nature is to be with that younger sister. i think i was trying to mirror what thought he needed. maybe silence is the way to go. >> this is an odd question, when you said i finally have a brother soon i am going to lose him. why do we love our siblings? >> no one with loves us better. william james often wrote about the core of self. that core of self is hidden from our parents. we hide from our parents but we don't from our siblings, they know every aspect of us. it is why they can drive us crazy, it is why when we have a problem, our impulse is to want our brother or sister right next to us. no one with could be closer. there is that pull. that pull is so powerful. it was a love story, always. >> do you think you knew that before you started writing this? >> i knew i had to be as close to my brother as i could possibly be. i am sure that pull is part of it. >> you have a daughter and stepson as well? >> i have 1 daughter and 1 stepson who i am close to. >> has this changed how you

i have seen numerous accidents as a nighttime commuter. i do not have a anyone frombart fart here. i did try. there had been an article on the examiner about a few of those. i reached out to the director. it was not a bad thing, necessarily. he was super interested. the most promising thing i have heard today is but we heard from supervisor wiener. in the sense that we need more, we need them in the city at 2:00 a.m.. from the entertainment commission side and a lot -- mayor's office, if i could grab his attention, this is a longstanding issue that is very important. >> of the next question is written in red ink, on pink paper. to the police, what is the official stand, or your opinion, on the expansion of last fall to 4:00 a.m. ? >> i will feel that one. it is not a case by case basis. we have to take into consideration, if you're going to have last call before 4:00 in the morning, the impact it will have on community and traffic, the impact it will have on the people outside the venue, it has been case by case. i know that just about every venue once and after hours permit. we are

i have been very active in calling in the vehicles. tty much to no avail, as you said, carmen, by the time anybody gets around to it, they have moved a block away and there doesn't seem to be a lot of repercussions. i don't feel safe. there is a lot of waste, as carmen said that is being dumped. it's a beautiful area, but mostly i just think that it's fair to limit the parking of these vehicles. thank you very much. >> thank you. next speaker. >> good afternoon everybody. i am mary ellen collins and i'm a homeowner with the laplaya park homeowner. i have lived there for 15 years. and just as it says in the legislation, and in some emails that we have sent around, the increase of robberies, theft, assault, i can't tell you about every two weeks i'm hosing off human excrement from the side gate of my house to the threatening behavior that have i experienced because i have screamed to guys doing drug deals out of their camper outside of my house. i think the quality of life issues as a homeowner and taxpayer that i'm entitled to and i'm no

i do not have anything else sudato add other than to say i m also very glad we have this forum and that people are able to participate, and i would encourage the community to continue to be actively involved and something that is so special to the neighborhood and has brought such a passionate new points on all sides, and i encourage you to continue to participate in the process, because we all have a stake in the beauty of this city and parks and open spaces, so thank you for being here. >> i am going to move to uphold the permanenit based upon the ft that is code compliance. -- compliant. >> we have a motion from the vice president to deny this appeal and uphold the permit on the basis that it is code compliance. on that motion -- [calling votes] the vote is 4-0. this is upheld. >> there is no further business before the board. >> we are adjourned. i'm derek, i'm hyungry, and ready to eat. these vendors offer a variety of the streets near you. these mobile restaurants are serving up original, creative and unusual combinations. you can grab something simple like a grilled cheese sandwi

>> i can't have it out when i see it i get fired up and so crazy, like let's go and i have to go -- no got to go play with my kids and got to chill, i have to keep it where i can't see t. >> what did it mean to you to create that after a little less than ten years? >> hard to describe, happy for dirk, our players, our fans and almost more of a relief than anything else. you saw on the video that you just see me screaming, 67 days, the whole playoffs, don't think about it don't jinx this, don't jinx this. you see it here, screaming and letting it all out. >> expressing true emotions, don't you? >> yeah. take after my dad. >> kids take friends to move the vicious watch my dad watch this movie. that's why i wanted to meet you. talk about leadership once again. talk about the president and mitt romney. tell me, first of all, rather than the people what are the qualities we need in a leader today dealing with the level of volitivity in market, today, challenges in europe, asia, potentially china slowing down what do we need in a great lander give me your report card for president obama, irk

i have the trait as well. [laughter]. >> as you are thinking about that, i would like to ask you to give us one more. there are 2 completely surprising and interesting substories woven through this narrative of your brother, 1, your fabulous aunt character in mexico getting frosty into mexico and running around with frita caller and your discovery of apples? >> this is astonishing, are we talking about the family past apple? >> both and the way thing danagers come together, yeah. >> kind of astonishing, again working on the idea that everything is passed down in families is it or is it not or is it coincidence. my father had a difficult relationship with his father from mexico. we knew our family had this chain of nurseries from mexico. i never understood because my father would change tg subject when his name came up. our grandfather was an orchardist at the turn of the century. >> which you hadn't even known. >> i didn't know it until i discovered this at the archive when i was trying to page through all of t

i have been living in the neighborhood 15 years. and during that time bicycle transportation has definitely improved a lot. and i thank you for your part in that. i now have great ways to go east, south and west. unfortunately north the only real way to go is masonic. and as others have mentioned, it's unsafe and scary. i too ride on the sidewalk at night. i don't like riding on the sidewalk, but i do not want to take my life into my hands. so you will probably hear from plenty of people telling you it's necessary for cyclists. that's a no-brainer. as a car driver i have to go that way sometimes. and as was mentioned in the presentation [bell] it's a very short stretch. if traffic slows down it's not going to significantly reduce people's travel time. and frankly, i would rather be on a pleasant street when i am in my car. i sometimes go out of my way to drive on delores street. because it's so beautiful. i would love to see masonic to be beautiful also. as a pedestrian i avoid masonic. >> david pellpell. >> i have a number of concer

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having a business mind, i think, will be a welcome thing for the rest of the trustees, to have a conversationith someone with a business background. >> [inaudible] >> i do think the board of trustees will be less about politics and more about how to do good administration of the city college and make sure it is fiscally sound as well as the governance of it is sound. i think that is where the skills that will be a good match. >> [inaudible] >> my organization is extremely diverse. it is an organization interested in high density housing near transportation hubs. it is an organization that is green, an organization interested in responsible growth. i do not know why you characterize that as polarizing. >> what have you done to protect the accreditation of the city college? >> we first need to make sure that we offer the interim chancellor all the tools she needs to be able to respond to the original eight items, now 14. we have until october 14 to make sure that we have covered those items. >> any specifics? >> i will be interacting with the interim chancellor and the mayor shortly so i want t

i have never seen that happen and i have never heard of that. i would say they are perhaps being pulled away for their own good. they are being assisted. if they are being put into a police radio car, they may be taken to another location. family members that can help them. i can assure them that i've never seen anyone be arrested at the scene like that. >> we want to have a conversation. i am going to turn around to mr. fleming. we will go back and forth. what would you say -- what role can he play, talked about the three groups of individuals. you mentioned that first group. on the edge. and he mentioned a second group, the group that would have step- by-step sentencing. is there anywhere for someone's skill set to assist you in that effort? >> i like the question and i will tell you why. i think the groups working with the youth are doing the best we can -- the best they can. sometimes, you need tough love. they need to set guidelines and make them understand that if they do not go according to the program, they will be out of the program. one

and even if i have a tavern license, i cannot sell tobacco products because they don't allow me to have tobacco license. so it's just a catch-22 situation. so, you know, i try to understand the situation. and i made my -- say i'm a huka lounge. i have both tobacco product license and also cafe license, which is the restaurant license. so there is no category for a huka lounge in san francisco. it's a cultural thing. so a lot of people come from all over. they like to enjoy the huka pipe. they don't want to go to a bar because they don't drink alcohol. it's a venue for a lot of people from different background to kind of find this venue to gather and to talk, and to have a time together. so the other thing was to -- >> president hwang: unless i missed it, i think your time is up. >> okay. >> vice president fung: i would raise the -- just to confirm what was stated by counselor at the -- you would stop all tobacco sales, if you were allowed non-tobacco products? >> absolutely. that's what i was trying to do. absolutely. that's what i was trying to do. from the get-go, trying to comply wit