jeffrey: i have no title. charlie: all books answering question. ffrey: one of the things that has interested me for years, why the middle east undoes american presidents? charlie: because it is unsolvable. jeffrey: carter, reagan, bush, and this one hoping that it wouldn't. charlie: back in a moment. ♪ charlie: we turn to apple which had a huge demonstration of its new products wednesday led by tim cook. among the people who solve the problem -- solving products was josh tyrangiel. i was also there. tim cook's company is the most valuable company in history. it makes some of the most desirable and easy to use consumer products ever. easy to use it turns out is not easy. josh is the editor of business -- bloomberg businessweek. he got a look inside the design studio where few people go. here is the cover of bloomberg businessweek. here is the inside we will talk about. what is the headline here? of this whole laying out of the newest version of apple's products? josh: the products themselves, the straight business headline is apple has taken the mos

charlie: i think she is more hawkish than he is. jeffrey: i did an interview with her. said don't do stupid stuff of a greatmotto nation. she didn't go that far this time but -- charlie: my foreign policy is don't do stupid stuff. jeffrey: but that is not enough of a foreign policy. it is a good rule for life when you wake up in the morning. here is the split. it is a good baseline. i don't always adhere to it. but here is a good way to think of it. i think that hillary clinton wakes up in the morning and says what can we do to make the world a better place? obama wakes up and says what can we do to make the world a better place and if we do that, what effect will that have? it is a disposition. let me think of the ramifications. charlie: do you think obama thinks differently than most people? jeffrey: i think he is more of an innovative foreign-policy thinker. charlie: he is looking for creative ways to approach it differently. jeffrey: to disengage from parts of the world, to handle problems that shouldn't be hours -- ours. obama hears the chinese -- why are we being s

before i do, jeffrey go-ahead. jeffrey: i would add to that. we have other examples where companies put up smoke, did not respond transparently to the initial inquiries. and they paid dearly when it came time to issue fines and other civil and criminal penalties. so, the fact that vw was dragging their feet over the last several months is definitely going to come back to haunt them. erik: the word i have heard used several times over the past couple of days which rings loudly in my head is "conspiracy." jamie got to it with his point about it being deliberate. unlike other conspiracies, say at ford over the transmission in the 1980's and most recently g.m. and takata and perhaps toyota, this was a conspiracy to deceive from the beginning. whereas in those cases, it was just a cover-up. jamie: this is not the first time people have played fast and loose with emissions results. cadillac did it a long time ago, walked away with a slap. back in the 1990's. very detroit solution. when the car would sense that it was being tested, it would put a sens

know i can't. jeffreyy one in 6 americans right now, which is roughly 50 million out of our 310 million population, eat with the help of food stamps in america. it's stunning, uh, how americans now are so squeezed, so vulnerable. lillian: i don't have fruit in the house. [distant sirens] narrator: over the last 4 years, 30 major corporations paid no taxes, even though their combined u.s. profit was over $200 billion. an overwhelming majority of americans believe that corporations and the wealthy should pay at least the same tax rate as the middle class. nicole: it would be incredible for there to be tax [indistinct] like unified front against these corporations. russell: it's not a redistribution of wealth. it's just a funny way of framing it. these guys are really geniuses at--at--of disempowering the poor, making people feel--and the middle class, and all of america feel that they've been selling their case so well. jeffrey: we have to revisit why we have that budge deficit, because the wealth has gone t

i remember that interview, jeffrey. it was all names. >> before i came on here, i got an e-mail from a woman. i won't give her last name. she is a cnn interviewer. she's looking for somebody who has judgment, not who knows the details. to be candid, this sounds -- i like hugh hewitt. i have been on his show. in all candor, this sounds like he is pining for the carter presidency where the president knows all the details of the air force budget but has no judgment about what the soviet union is about. we need judgment, judgment. if you know all the details of a train and you are telling people we're going to boston but in fact the train is going to miami, you know, the fact that you know the details of the engine don't really help very

i guess. that boldness plays well, folks. >> jeffrey, i want to return to the attack that donald trump played against carly fiorina because i really do want to get your take on this one thing. if the "rolling stone" article he talks about her face. today when he was asked about it, he said that he essentially he didn't say he wasn't talking about her face, he just said i'm talking about her persona and then he goes on to attack her. in what you saw in that "rolling stone" article, do you think, do you think donald trump was calling carly fiorina ugly or do you think donald trump was talking about carly fiorina, her persona? >> well, you know, as we all know, your face is inseparable from your persona so, you know, i'll leave it to donald trump on that, but, kate, i just really think this kind of thing is not important to people. i mean, what's important to them are their jobs -- when we talk about evangelicals or women or what have you, they're not stick figures. they're human beings with real problems in life and they're looking here to find out who amongst these candidates can, you know, he

. >> i interviewed jeffrey daumer and his parents at length in 1994.uch of what they shared has never been heard until now. msnbc brick brings you the neve before seen confessions of a serial killer. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >>> thanks for joining us. i'm stone phillips. in february 1994 at the columbia correctional institution in wisconsin i sat down with serial killer jeffrey dahmer for his first and as it turned out his last network television interview. his father lionel dahmer had just written a book about his son and he joined us. jeff, as his father called us, was polite and seemed unnervingly normal. rarely had a serial killer spoken in such detail about his crimers on the possible root causes, but this father and son spoke about both as did dahmer's mother in a rare interview. as you'll see, even looking back more than a decade later there are still no easy answers. >> hi, jeff. >> how are you? >> good to see you. >> good to see you. >> hi, jeff. >> stone phillips. >> hi, mr. phillips. how are you? >> nice to see you. >> spending the last few days with your fo

we'll look at that and plenty of other things. >> before i get to jeffrey, to you bob, i want to ask you, some of the folks behind him, if you look and roll -- you don't have to play the sound up, they are making faces like oh, my goodness, not everyone in the crowd agrees with that. do you think he needs to get out and address this controversy right now on the campaign trail. >> no. i don't at all. i'll tell you, a lot of people, i'm not suggesting the republican party is all anti-muslim. it's not. there's a sliver of them that in fact does believe this stuff. look at your own polls, 48% of republicans believe he's a muslim. so why should donald trump go out of his way to disavow people of that? he's gone to iowa, if he had stood up for barack obama last night, it wouldn't have helped him. it's pure politics. >> 43% and it's -- donald trump is a very bright man and can handle himself in front of a crowd. he did not refute that guy's statements last night and did respond to part of the question in the middle where he said the guy said the president -- he's not a citizen or he's a mus

i can't imagine them considering that. who knows. >> shatzker: jeffrey? they have all the other brands, many doing well in the u.s. market. they see the vw brand completing the pallet. despite the disaster, i don't see them pulling out of here. >> shatzker: even if they manage to fix the problem with a software patch and it only costs drivers a couple miles per gallon on the highway, could it leave a more lasting impression on the mind of the auto buyer and maybe even spell the end of diesel? >> i think they need to move quickly. if it can be fixed with a software adjustment, great. but they need to get the issue done and dusted and out of the press as quickly as possible and deal with the disappointed customer base. the longer this is in the press and drags on, the more dangerous it will be to recover the brand equity they've lost. >> i agree. if i'm a crisis manager, volkswagon needs something dramatic here. this is in some ways a very insular traditional german company with a i thin tinge of arrogance at the time and the relationship with america has be

let's get back to jeffrey. i wanted to get the answer to that question. why not in that moment, why not did trump or should he have in that moment said, the president is christian and he was born here in america? >> i've heard the exchange many times. he answered the guy's question. we are holding donald trump to a standard we will not hold barack obama. question was, when can we get rid of them? that was the question. >> right, right. okay. >> let me ask the question. was he talking about isis? was he talking about training camps in this country of which the fbi investigates all these places. there is a place in upstate new york that i am personally familiar with because of my family location. was he talking about that? honestly, victor, i have no idea. i don't think donald trump did either. >> when i criticize barack obama for not distancing himself more from jeremiah wright, i am being consistent with the same thing here with donald trump. donald trump also campaigned live when he said he didn't hear the question. you heard the question. you understand

now i when jeffrey's boss was running, he was seeking out congress. >> they're doing the opposite nowng out independence. and, bid the way, how foolish -- i don't know mr. trump. i tonight know anything against him. >> i'm sorry. i couldn't hear either of you? >> the last time they thought they had manna from he feel em they had ront reagan. that's not kmaktly an ebb thuz yastic endorsement. >> well, i mean, that is -- that assumes that it will stay that way. i know anna will disafwree with this. we just saw a turn around of this face-to-face rabblety rating. so you think he can make a dependent in that? >> sure, sure. i wasn't the kind of person he kpnt today meet at all. he sat there very quietly. was thauktful. they disagreed on issues. it's a long time to duohere. >> thank you, gracias, everybody. >>> coming up next, a 360 exclusive, the family of kat steinle joins me to taurk about the lauts third party filing, the claims that i had're filing too get justice for their daughter and the sister they lost. here's to the explorers. those diagnosed with cancer who explored their treatm

i guess the question is to man day's point. can a president have such thin skin? if he -- looked like we are having technical trouble. is donna still there? jeffreythink you are the only one left. somehow the other people have just vanished. i don't know if donald trump has control of our airways at this point. >> you know he tweets favorable thing as about me, anderson. >> we balance each other out. do you believe he has thin skin? can a president be somebody engage in these kind of fights. he has written how you need to challenge. people go after you. you need to stand up. challenge them. not only for dealing with that person. but for sending the message to everybody else, you can't be messed with. and when you extrapolate that to the political world. there are a lot of americans who believe that that is one of the problems we have in the country. one of the reasons they responded so well to ronald reagan. of course, as we all remember the day he was sworn in, the iranians released the hostages. that kind of message is coming through here. >> jeffrey lord, i can hear donald trump tweeting right now. thank you for joining us. donna brazil, amand

thing to go out on the show, and another one on the election day. >> and it is -- >> i have to leave it there, jeffreyow that i will have you back, because i have so much to ask you before tomorrow night. and thank you, jeffrey lord and mitch, thank you so much. we invite you the watch the debate beginning at 8:00 p.m. eastern time, and 6:00 p.m. >>> and so now in other news, a fraternity news, a pledge dies and dies of hayesing, and now over three dozen people are implicated. we have the disturbing details coming up next. it's unleashing great power. the is performance line just got a power boost. introducing the lexus is 200 turbo and is 300 awd v6. the is line has never been... more powerful. once driven, there's no going back. dayquil liquid gels and go. hey buddy, let's get these but these liquid gels are new. mucinex fast max. it's the same difference. these are multi-symptom. well so are these. this one is max strength and fights mucus. that one doesn't. uh...think fast! you dropped something. oh...i'll put it back on the shelf... new from mucinex fast max. the only cold and flu liquid gel that

i don't know. but jeffrey, i want to go back to the carly fiorina moment when she responded to trump's comments from the rolling stone magazine. and he responded to her by saying he thought she was a beautiful woman. he seems tone deaf, jeffrey. >> to be perfectly candid i have to disagree with you, carly. i mean, what bothers me -- i thought carly fiorina did very well. i thought she was really terrific last night. but what does bother me about her remark and also with jeb bush is that they play the gender and race cards. you know, sex and race. which is is, you know, a traditional weapon of the political left. it shouldn't be infiltrating the right and this is what more moderate republicans tend to do is mimic the left. you know it's just we're nicer, we can manager better, et cetera. and her response frankly i thought was sexist. i mean who cares about women and men? how about americans? who cares whether you are from mexico originally or ireland or from slovenia. i really think that kind of thing is bad fo

i wish he would find somebody else to pick it with. >> jeffrey, 20 seconds, final thought on this. >>ugh on the air today talking about exactly this and said he was astounded at the thought that speaking english is controversial. and i would suggest that governor bush made a mistake to think it's humorous and only going to, you know, add to the fire. >> okay. okay. we are going to leave it right there. jeffrey, i want to report cnn has learned that donald trump and reince priebus are meeting one on one. no staff there. thank you so much. that's it for me. i'll be back at 5:00. newsroom starts right after a quick break. why do so many people choose aleve? it's the brand more doctors recommend for minor arthritis pain. plus, just two aleve can last all day. you'd need 6 tylenol arthritis to do that. aleve. all day strong. i brought in some protein to help rearrange the fridge and get us energized! i'm new ensure active high protein. i help you recharge with nutritious energy and strength to keep you active. come on pear, it's only a half gallon. i'll take that. yeeeeeah! new ensure acti

jeffrey lord, a cnn political commentator. a former political director for ronald reagan. i of course, am at the ronald reagan presidential library right now. jeffrey, i want to start with you. we have been talking about what donald trump we might see here in this debate here behind me wednesday night. over the weekend, donald trump said i may not be so aggressive. you may see a nicer guy. watch this. >> you said that it sounds like you're expecting a bunch of sleepers when you get to the debate this week. >> no sleepers. no, no sleepers. everyone is capable, everybody is competent. you do what you do. i've been doing this a long time. i want to make america great again. i know how to do it. >> that sounds like a very different donald trump than what you used to say before. capable, competent, talking about your opponents. >> i'm trying to be nice. >> well, you're laughing, jeffrey lord is laughing at the idea of donald trump saying i'm trying to be nice. what's so funny? do you not buy it? >> first of all, i know donald trump and he is a nice guy. i do think he enjoys keepi

jeffrey, i would like to begin with you. you heard donald trump defending his comments about carly fiorina's face saying he made them as an entertainer. he is running for president. is he in your view acting presidential? >> sure. sure. you know, he is an entertainer in that sense. he was on television for a long time. towards the end of his term, president reagan was interviewed by i think tom brokaw who asked him about being an actor and being president. reagan's answer was something to the effect that i don't know how i could have done the job without it, without his acting background. in this day and age of television and mass communications, it does help. these things help. i think he was quite frank about it. >> i want to give you a chance to pipe in, doug. i saw you shaking your head. having an acting background is one thing. the difference is the nature of the comments we are hearing. against women, against latinos. is it presidential? >> no, it's not presidential. keep in mind today is 9/11. there was a tweet from d

the american dream. >> i get what you are saying jeffrey. i do. eric, donald trump was born with many things most of us were not. and you could argue that it was a lot easy for him to become a very wealthy man that is it is for the rest of us. >> yeah i think that's true. but, you know, if wealth was a barrier to office then ted kennedy never would have been elected. jay rockefeller never would have been elected. mitt romney would not have been elected governor of massachusetts. i think the connect occurs at the much more fundamental level as jeffrey was saying. people can identify with donald trump because he's talking about the issues that they care about. >> all right. i have to leave it there. thanks to both of you. >> thank you so much. i know. i know. you can catch all the action right here on cnn tomorrow night. the main event begins at 6:00 p.m. eastern and the then at 8:00 eastern. i've spoken of the shining city all my political life. god blessed and teeming with people of all kinds... living in harmony and peace. trump: they're bringing

jeffrey. >> jimmy: i take it jeffrey is not going to be the ring boy. [ laughter ] >> he just started working, we just started filming "modern family" again, it started from hiatus. >> jimmy: so they replaced the baby? >> yeah, they wanted somebody a little bit older that could run, do lines, play around. he's amazing. >> jimmy: did the baby they fired take it hard? fire a toddler. >> he'll find other jobs. it's going to be okay. >> jimmy: i hope he is okay. is there anyone else in the show you'd like to have replaced? [ laughter ] >> i mean -- if you're going to ask me -- >> jimmy: yes. >> maybe stella. >> jimmy: oh, really. the dog, right? >> maybe the dog, yeah. >> jimmy: you don't line the dog? >> yes, i like her. but sometimes when they make her act, the scenes go longer. because she's not very good. >> jimmy: she's a dog, yeah. >> no, i think it's not because she's a dog. there are dogs that are very good actors. >> jimmy: stella just doesn't have -- >> the thin is that it's always hard to work with animals because you have to wait for them to do their thing. >> jimmy: i know how it goe

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who think and feel that way but i stood up to her and answered her questions and she is entitled to her opinion. >> deneen borelli what is your relationship with jeffrey immelt? >> i can say he knows who we are, myself and my husband tom because we have gone to numerous shareholder meetings. innocence is with jeffrey immelt he is in the industry of energy so they can sell renewable energy products a really fair hiding behind the government. this is a publicly traded company mind you and they want the government corporatism to help with their bottom line and i think that's wrong. really that's our tax dollars being used to influence ge's on line i think that's wrong. >> corporate cronyism you call it. >> cronyism, corporatism. anytime government is involved with big business it's collusion in people and to recognize it's happening. >> do with tom? >> use my husband and we are well-known a different shareholder meetings and we make the news and again it's another way for people to be empowered, to ask the questions why are you making these decisions or choices that are not in the best interest of shareholders, simple questions but they don't like to be

. >> i tend to agree with jeffrey. i don't think the ideological frame is as important to trump supporters, peeling off his supporters by saying liberals and conservatives. the other effective part, if it was the central message, donald trump is about donald trump. trump is a fraud and a con, if i really care about the direction of this country. that type of message would break through and voters would feel like they don't want one -- they don't want a trick like that pulled over on them. they would be more likely to go shopping for some other candidates. >> it is interesting. $1 million in iowa on tv, it frees up the candidates to do different kinds of messages, right? can't they talk about themselves, can't they talk about trump in different ways? a million bucks against trump on the air waves. >> $1 million from a 527 or super pac doesn't have the same effect. but club for growth is one of those groups on the air making that case to voters. we'll see if this starts to move the dial for those registering support for d

i will stipulate this may not hurt him very much. you, jeffreydo you want your candidates running for president, seeking nom nation io know the difference between hamas and hezbollah? >> what i want them to have, john, is judgment. i worked for ronald reagan. ronald reagan was frequently accused of not knowing the details, happened all the way through presidency. not just a candidate. when he showed up to meet with jimmy carter. carter had a long memo of things he went over with and was disturbed ronald reagan never took a note. george w. bush has we have seen on "cnn tonight" flubbed the same kind of thing back in 1999. let me say for hugh hewitt. i have met hugh a few times, been on his radio show. i do disagree with this though. i think we are talking about the fundamental operation of the presidency. it is important that we have judgment here. the details can be filled in by all kind of people on the staff. but the judgment is, is critical here. that its what donald trump has and what supporters like about him. >> the recent cnn poll in iowa,

i just love it. >> people feel that way about jeffrey domer. >> i mean personally i love a good murderer. that's totally my type. >> i don't think about it. if i see somebody i say wow you look nice. >> i was fine with it. >> unlike twitter and facebook and other sites that are mainly used for sexual harassment they are professional. >> what i love is this guy's fan tau satisfy is in his head as he sat down to write this. the main fantasy was this is going to work. i am going to write the most amazing. you know that he hoped the response was oh my god, thank you. >> this guy, the same dude commented on a facebook picture as his daughter. there is a picture of her working at the gym. it said while i should not encourage lascivious comments about my daughter, yee god she is hot. >> she did not. >> i'm surprised he even know hue to message on linked in. very impressive. >> why does he pref physician -- preface it with that? >> i hope it works out for him and the daughter. >> he gets points for using whilst. >>> coming up, the story that is in the prompter i don't think we will do so i won't

who think and feel that way but i stood up and answered her questions and she's entitled to her opinions. >> host: deneen borelli, what is your relationship with jeffrey mo? >> guest: i can say he knows who he unsure of who we are because a bunch of number shareholder meetings with ge. this instance he wants government on the industry of energy said they can sell their products. they are hiding behind big government. they were in the hope of their bottom line and that is wrong because that tax dollars being used to influence ge bottom line. >> host: corporate cronyism to call it. >> guest: anytime government is involved with a business' collusion and not as a red flag for americans to recognize and that happens to >> host: who is tom borelli? >> guest: he is my husband. what makes the news then again it's another way for people to be empowered. ask the question why you make a decision and choice is not in the best interest of shareholders. simple question. ceos don't like to be put on spot in front of the board and shareholders. >> host: where does you and tommy? >> guest: we met at work. we used work. we used to work at phillip morris. we met in manh

i stood up to her and answered her questions and she's entitled to her opinion. >> what's your relationship with jeffrey and -- >> well, i can say he knows who we are, myself and my husband. we've gone to a numerous shareholder meetings. the industry of energy so they that can sell their renewable energy product. but really they're hiding behind big governments where -- this is a possible public traded company, they want the government, you know, to help with their bottom line. and i think that's wrong. really, that's our tax dollars being used to influence ge's bottom line. i think that's wrong. >> corporate -- >> absolutely. any kind of government is involved with big businesses, education -- exclusion. that's a red flag. >> who is tom borelli? >> that's my husband. we make the news and, again, another way for people to be empowered. ask the question. why are you making decisions and choices that are not in the best interest of shareholders? simple questions. they don't look to be put on the spot like that specially in front of the board and shareholders. >> where did you and tom meet? >> we met at wo

were 4-5 bidders and one of them was a group of businessmen put together that included jeffrey thompson and eric holder. i asked eric holder, did you have any other businesses with jeffrey thompson that you can tell us? it took them two weeks but he told me no. brian: i want to put up a map so people who do not live in this area can get some understanding of what this area looks like. it is between baltimore and northern virginia, about 9.5 billion people. tom: it is between baltimore to the north and richmond to the south. brian: to the side of the district of columbia is a county called prince george's county. what can you tell us about jack jackson who was the former executive of the county? tom: jack johnson built himself up and became a prosecutor. he ran and became the county executive. he got caught up -- people forget this when we talk about how long the vincent gray investigation went on. he was part of politics for more than five years. jack johnson was taking money from kickbacks. there was a horrible explosion when he was indicted. the fbi raided his house. it was hugely embarrassing. his wife

. >> jeffrey, i know you said dr. carson is flat out wrong about this but as far as donald trump goes, when asked about the idea of a muslim president, he says some people have said it already happened, isn't that just kind of stirring the pot? >> well, i'll tell you what is stirring the pot, anderson, i have a column tomorrow at the american spectator in which i took a look at reggie love, reggie love was president obama and senator obama as they called them trade body man, the guy that sticks with a candidate through and served both with the campaign and in the white house with them and he wrote a book of memoirs that came out this past january and he recounts a personal fight between senator obama and hillary clinton, a very agitated discussion on the runway on the tarmac at regan airport in which sen tomorrow oc -- senator obama accused of hillary clinton of labeling him as a muslim -- >> but even if that's true -- >> of doing this -- >> if that's true, and -- >> well, so we know -- >> and we -- eight years later

i keep coming. >> you know who didn't take no for an answer? jeffrey domer. >> i think this guy -- i liked the way his first text was like, you should rethink what you are saying. then he asked for the money back and i thought that's where he seemed like a weird owe. obviously he was crushed and devastated. he was doing whatever he could to stay in contact with her. was it the girl who blasted it? >> it was her friend. >> we have to go. very special thanks. that does it for me. tom shillue. see you next time. never miss a episode of "the five." special report up now. >>> president obama and russia's vladimir putin talk at each other from the u.n. podium and to each other on the sidelines. plus an exclusive interview with the man trying to be the next speaker of the house. this is "special report." >>> good evening, welcome to washington, i'm bret baier. the two most powerful political leaders in the world went one on one late this afternoon at the united nations. the meeting came after dueling speeches at the general assembly at the u.n., revealing vas

and that's the way this thing s is. >> jeffrey? >> i actually used to share michael's opinion it was going to be one of each. now i'm not so sure. >> you think it might be a dr. carson and a trump? >> correct. correct. i think all the passion is right there. and these other folks, and i think in that same cbs poll, 37% had decided and there was 60%, something like that, i mean, a good percentage that hadn't decided but i have this feeling that they're going to be gravitating to one of the other three. >> we've seen this kind of passion before. i mean, you know, everybody has said before, rick perry was high up in the polls the last time around at this stage in the primary battle. >> he -- i thought honestly, anderson, he cratered relatively quickly. i don't think -- i mean, if there were a rick perry rallies with 20,000 people in texas -- >> there were not. >> right. i just didn't see this here. i thought it was kind of overblown. i think this is the real thing here. >> look, let's put things in perspective. number one, this is a differ

joining us is jeffrey lord, the former reagan supporter, and also, tara henderson, and also laura mcdonald, and iget to what new jersey governor chris kr chris christie said in the face of the silence of donald trump, and this is what he said today on msnbc show. >> if someone at one of my town hall meetings said something like that, i would say that the president is a christian and born in this country. i mean, i think that the two things are self-evident. >> it is right for mr. trump to apologize to the muslims this morning? >> donald trump has to decide and i said it all along, he has to determine how serious a candidate he and i am not lecturing him about what to do, and i will tell you what i would do. >> and i will ask you, you are a donald trump supporter, jeffrey loe lord, and should he apologize to the muslim community about what he said or not? >> wolf, this is enormous hypocrisy, and i'm a member of the united church of christ a christian, and for 20 years, barack obama was in the same denomination, and so i have some authority to speak to this, and i have been president of the church

i had to take it off because somebody else took over the lead. this year donald trump is taking over writing the book. it's going to be an interesting book. >> done a jeffrey lord, amanda carpenter, stay with us. i want to get your take on donald trump and his use of twitter against opponents. the big question, is trump going too far? i think most of his supporters will just say no. >>> later, breaking news in the ambush killing of this man, a texas sheriff's deputy, and the sheriff's claim that rhetoric surroundsing the black lives matter movement could have motivated the suspect. details ahead. ♪ ♪ (vo) you can pass down a subaru forester. (dad) she's all yours. (vo) but you get to keep the memories. love. it's what makes a subaru, a subaru. so you're a small business expert from at&t? yeah, give me a problem and i've got the solution. well, we have 30 years of customer records. our cloud can keep them safe and accessible anywhere. my drivers don't have time to fill out forms. tablets. keep it all digital. we're looking to double our deliveries. our fleet apps will find the fastest route. oh, and your boysenberry apple scones smell about done. ahh, you'r

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he says, i can kind of understand it. men, particularly of jeffrey's generation, have defend eed misogyny for years. what i don't understand is you are a beautiful, successful, hard-working woman. how can you possibly defend what trump has said about men, women, everyone in between? how could you possibly think that that's effective or productive or dignified even in the blood sport like politics? >> i want to give you a chance to answer. >> let me ask you a question. isn't everybody else doing it? jeb bush, which is -- >> is that your defense? >> even he is swinging. he is absolutely -- politics is a blood sport. we as women want equality. even in the business world, i have been in business now for over 15 years. i'm dealing with men. they're not always so nice. i have to take -- i want equ equality -- >> you don't get equality -- let me say something. you do not get equality by defending a chauvinist pig. let me finish. you do not get equality by defending chauvinist pigs. i have been shocked by how many women -- let me finish. including you and othe

i do want to bring back now ryan lizzo and jeffrey toobin and michael with us, as well. ow if you guys were watching the ms. america pageant live, i suspect not, however, which direction am i going you might wonder? donald trump came up this weekend at the miss america pageant. he is everywhere. let's take a listen. >> why do you think he's leading by such an overwhelming margin? >> i think donald trump is an entertainer, and i think he says what's on a lot of people's minds, but i think that the republican party should be absolutely terrified of all the attention that he is taking from incredible candidates like jeb bush and chris christie who could absolutely do the job as president of the united states and if i were a republican i would absolutely be terrified of that. >> thank you. >> thank you so much. >> so that was miss alabama and this, i think is interesting, ryan, because i don't know, i think that might be some political analysis where she said some of these candidates should be absolutely terrified. >> i was just going to say, we should invite her onto the pan

jeffrey lords, i know you have been a trump supporter. one thing that stood out to me is he didn't fling a bunch of insults and one person to go on the attack against was jeb bush. yet, in this most recent poll, donald trump at 30%. jeb bush is at 8%. he's continuing to fall in the polls. why do you think he keeps going back against jeb? >> i think jeb is the -- if you will, the leader of the insider pack. i mean, i think there's two groups of people here, the insiders and the outsiders. and jeb for a long time has been, i don't know after this, frankly, whether he will be seen as the leader of the insiders but that's probably one of the reasons he goes after him. i have to say, watching this and listening to this, i had two other thoughts. one is, he really looked presidential. this is what a president looks like. in command, firm. answered questions. took as many questions and the second thought i had was the contrast with hillary clinton. who sort of doesn't want to get into these kind of situations with the press. she has the business