john: i thought it was delusional. mike has made his bones with donald trump, and he will have to live with them. robert: we will live it there. ambassador bolton, we appreciate your time ve. john: thank you for having me. robert: we appreciate all you coming by for another conversation at washington post live. we will keep having more of that. critics of the administration and those working within the administration to give you a full picture of what is happening in the news, in the republican, in the democratic party. today, we will have our today. host series tomorrow at 3:00 eastern, i will interview colorado governor. tomorrow at 3:00 eastern and today we will have faith in america from the editorial stage. -- race in america. 11:30 a.m. eastern, former president barack obama and the president of -- of thet release memoir promised land. i'll be back on monday for a discussion with dr. anthony fauci. washington post, president obama and dr. fauci. make sure to leave your late morning and afternoon free so that you c

john: i thought it was delusional. mike has made his bones with donald trump, and he will have to live with them. robert: we will live it there. ambassador appreciate your time this afternoon and coming back to "washington post live." >> thanks for having me. >> we appreciate you all coming by for another conversation here "washington post live." we'll keep having more of them and exchanges with people. critics of the administration and also working within the administration to give you a full picture of what's happening in the news, in the democratic party, in the republican party. we aty. 3:00 today we will have our ongoing series here at "washington post live", a discussion with the cofounder of black lives matter. tomorrow at 3:00 eastern i will interview ohio -- excuse me, colorado governor jared polis tomorrow at 3 p.m. eastern. today we let race in america from the editorial page. and on monday big event, big news here at "washington post live." at 11:30 a.m. eastern on monday we will host former president barac

john: i wanted to going and do what i cou. based on eight years of mistaken policy and the obama administration, i was not shy in sharing my opinions. i do not doubt that i made a lot of mistakes. i wish i had been more successful on persuading the president on a number of key issues. knowing what i don't now, i would still go in and probably do things to avoid, but i think it is important to serve the country if you had the opportunity. scoresre that dozens and of other senior officials who have cycled through the four years of the trump administration also believe. i think that their efforts should be commended and not criticized. robert: how do yo believe the world and u.s. rivals or emies, even, will challenge bidenst president elect once he takes office in january? john: i think that there are a lot of ways in which that could happen. i think that they are certainly thinking about that right now. i believe that if you look at the strategic threats imposed by china and russia, there are any number of challenges they could

both john and i think and his answers thought that was fascinating and also were surised at that john was themississippian . so thank you for that insight. jim, i'm gng to sit back and let you take over your you so mucfordoing this . >> barbara thank you mark for a fascinating and compelling bo . i'm going to put my cards on the table right away . >> and am going to start by telling the story about the first time i ever met john mccain and how i quickly learned a lot about him through that experience . we were both just on the face the nation show and john mccain was comingout . i was still going on and there was this pause there, break and he came up to me and said i've been reading the stuff you're writing about this bozo clinton and i don't like it. i was respectfully disagree and then he went on to the show. the next day, i'm sitting at my desk atthe washington post . phone rings. that's john mccain. it's not you, it's not his secretary, it's john kane. and he proceeds to apologize to me and to say to me that he had quite an irish temper. and i said to him well, my mother's maiden

because i couldn't -- i was two hours late to my own wedding, john. [laughter] because i was convinced, you know, am i going to jinx david somehow? is some horrible thing going to happen to him? and i don't want other crime victims to grieve the way i did for so long, because the repercussions go on. i raised the children, that was largely affected by what happened to keith. constantly worried about them. >> the book can read like literature, but it can also be a reference guide for wherever you find yourself in life, whatever you might be planning to do. maybe it's a trip, maybe it's joining a gym and you want to be safe of going to exercise, and you give these great stories. they're tragic -- >> they're not stories -- >> they're truth. >> real people. >> absolutely. >> suffered deeply in life. and i want to tell you something, john, which you probably already know. every one of these chapters is inspired by a cause i either personally investigated, took to trial myself or covered every one. it took me two years to research and write "don't be a victi

i'm going to starty telling a story about the firstime i ever met john mccain andhow i quickly learned a lot about him . through thatexperience . we were both on the face the nation show and john mccain was coming out and i was going to go on and there was a pae there, a break. jo mccain walked up to me and said i've been readg this stuff you're writing about thisbozo clinton and i don't like it . i respectfully disagreand then went on to the showthe next day , i'm sitting at my desk at the washington post, and it's john mccain. it's not you, it's not his secretary,t's john mccain and he proces to apologize to me and to say to me that he had quite an irh temper. and i said to him well, my mother's maidename was salter so i'm familiar with that but i was justmpressed with your book d the way in which he did thatnd the genuine nature of his apology. now, you learned a lot of his temper as well. you write at one point that he and you got locked into a terrificargument and he said to you finally, we both have been hot heads, the two of us. one of us should calmdown . talk a little bit abou

i want to tell you something, john, which you probably already know. very one of these chapters is inspired by case i either personally investigated, took to trial myself, or covered. everyone. .. you can fight back. it gives you the power to fight back and 350 pages of it and i'm so proud, charles because i spent every penny from this book to the national center for women and voice shelter and this past week i got a $25,000 check for all the people that bought the book and it meant the world to me that we're not just sittingby reporting, i'm actually giving something to help . i was inspired in each chapter. for instance, you may recall the courthouse shooting. reporting from california to laguardia and i've got to check from my best friend at the county courthouse, i got off the phone with my little bag and i taxied to jfk, caught the next flight to atlanta. the judge, i had roland barnes, the court reporter, she had reported my trial, reporting a sheriff dead why? because a female was cornered in an elevator and the purpose got out. she was overpower

i asked john grisham, in mississippi, i read a little bit and i will read it again to get her reaction, the attitude of his, john mccain's southern forebears and earlier generations who distinguish themselves in war offer parallels to quality in his own personality. no doubt those qualities derived in part from the personalities of your father and grandfather, in the position of the mississippi mccain. his high spiritedness, enthusiasm and craving current adventure are an inheritance from mccain's mothers. and wrote about john mccain, when mccain's uncle and grandfather left mississippi. what could they do around farms in small towns in an impoverished area not yet heels from the civil war, the law, the church, nothing seems to challenge them. that was fascinating and also were surprised a mississippian, thank you for that insight. thank you for doing this. >> thank you for a fascinating and compling book, i congratulate you on that and i will start by telling the story the first time i ever met john mccain and hoi learned a lot about him through that experience. we were both guests on

john, i want to hear what john boehner has to say. he wanted to get some kind of idea what he would ask bush for in the democrat for that john boehner could deliver to his caucus. that's why it was sort of, that's why he acted that way in that meeting. it was a mistake, a stupid stuff. it wasn't panic but just a loss of, when you struggle and kick and polite way to get to the 40-yard line and suddenly you are back knocked back very late in the race, to the one-yard line, and with a downtick of you have a tendency to think i'm putting it up and throwing hail mary and that is essential what it was and it blew up interface, and you know, we realistically knew it was very unlikely he could win. >> how long did it take him to recover from that mistake and from his defeat? >> from his defeat, i think, he just gets busy. he's a man with so many enthusiasms. he loved his work. he loved the senate. he threw himself into every fight he could find and it even issues had expressed particular and before he would get involved in just to stay busy.

i want to tell you something, john, what you probably already know. every one of these chapters is inspired by a case i either personally investigated, took to trial mysf, or covered, every one. it took me two years to research and write "don't be a victim," and the stories here are not to scare anyon the stories for empower you at a time where so many of u feel we can't control anything that is ppening around us. that is notrue. youan fight back. this is not to scare but to give you the pow to fight back, and 35 pages of advice and'm so proud, john,ecause i pledged every penny from this book to the nation center for missing exploited children, and this past week, i got to send them $25,000 check based on people buying this book. and it meant the world to me that we're not just sting back, reporting, thankfully dog something to help. i was inspired in each chapter, for instance, many pple in atlanta will recall the courthse shooting. i was cating a plane to california from la la guardia for a victims rights and i get a text from my best friend, mass sh

i will start by telling a story the first time i ever met john mccain and how i quickly arned a lot about him. we were both guest on face the nation and john mccain was coming out. i was ing on. he came up to me and said i have been reading e stuff you are writing about bozo clinn and i don't like it and we have the dcussion and i respectfully disagreed and went on with the show. the next day sitting at my desk at the washington post john mccain. and he proceeds to apologize and say is on - - says to me he has a irish temper i said my mother's maiden name is so of them but was impressed with the humility with which he did that and the genuine nature of his apology you learned a lot about his temper as well that you were locked into a terrific argumt is that we both been hheads. one of us should calm down. [laughter] talk about hisemper and how it manifested ielf and how you lid with it oridn't. >> like a sqll that comes out of nowhere and burst and then moves on to sunny skies. but it was very rarely directed downward. and he could get heated with histaff had great licse to tell him what

i will let you have another whack. john: i actually have a question from our online audience. it is kind of interesting question, when we are talking about postwar stuff and how appomattox is seen and stuff like that. i don't know why i'm going out of focus. my shirt must be too loud on the screen. beth: we want to see more of ottawa. john: i guess so. how did the radical republicans respond to those terms when they heard about them? that is something that one person would love to know in the comments. we were just talking about were they too lenient, etc., etc. beth: i think i'm going to start to show some of my own limitations, because i am by no means a political historian. i try to weave it in as best i can, but it is my least favorite thing. from what i can tell, the radical republicans took a much more unhappy approach. my guess would be that they were probably not thrilled with the generous terms, but i do not know. that is a good question. --n: beth: -- peter: they didn't think in a unified way. the second point is a recognition that there is a military victory that ha

john: i don't think so. everything that has come out of the therapeutic and the vaccine fronts in the past few months has come up better than expected in terms of quality of the results reported by the major drugmakers. it is right to think about the vaccine is really sealing the case for just being a less major wave of covid. and if you believe that is the case, you have to bet on a stronger economy without a lot of volatility next year, and that is what the markets are reacting to. i don't think the medium term pass that the markets are anchored by is justified at all. seeink we are starting to increasing lockdowns in the u.s. this is going to cause episodic drawdown in risky markets, but i don't think it changes the direction of markets over the next several months. what kind of recovery are you expecting once we have a vaccine? john: i think once you have the vaccine, keep in mind that in the background there is probably going to be more physical easing by the time it is deployed to the general public. i

no, i am not, i john, are you escaping? no, i am not, lam john, are you escaping? e middle of london, which can be one of the quietest places in lockdown because nobody is here. there is a serious point, which is wealthy people with second homes, both in lockdown one and two, they have lagged it to their nice abodes any countryside with their fancy gardens and very good broadband and continued working there, and one of the things about this virus has been to accentuate the economic divide. john kampfner, caroline wheeler, thank you both for that paper review. i will see you in a bit. and that is it for the papers tonight. my thanks to bothjohn and caroline. it is goodbye for now. hi there, good evening. i'm chetan pathak with your sports news. leicester city are within a point of the leaders liverpool tonight, after moving up to second in the premier league with a 4—1 win at leeds united. the visitors got off to the perfect start. this poor back pass letting jamie vardy in, and he set up harvey barnes, who finished the move to give leicester the lead afterjust three

i thought that was just about john mccain'finest moment. >> really an impressive thing to behold. i was fortunate enough to be in that ring where he did that and it was booed by his ownsupporters, some of them . most people gave him a round of applause. >> campaign also contained two enormous mistakes that you helped him make. >> one was sarah palin. the other was calling for an economic summit to spending campaigning and failing to put forward a conventional program, talk about those two mistakes and how quickly both of you, john mccain and your you realizthose mistakes didn't leave any lasting effects in your relationship with each other.>> not those decisions know. earlier things in 2007, but i wouldn't say strained our relationship but i, we can talk about that some other time, i'll answer your question directly . senator mccain would never allow one way or another, he felt responsible for putting her on the ticket. he felt he had probably put her in a position she wasn't prepared for that she struggled under the strain of it and he felt bad about it and ever said a bad wordabo

that john talks about. i have a bunch of problems along the way which is why i think you see people like krtin rose and peter singer and these tech advocates wh are saying, you need to catch up with the it rma by consolidated data and doing artificial intelligence and having a data plan. i think that we missed that part of e it rma and what we need to do is instead of cusing on top-down centralizaon data that's been slow down to the war fighter we need to build the networks that are able to decentralize and able to every anything called the distributed mentality, break into their own separate neorks and then we have organic information and the advancement in organic information at lives with the primary war fighter unit so that when these top-down networksre and able to survive whethebecause of complexityr cyber threat or somebody accidentally cutting the cable lines that you still ha the ability to create these to condu operations and maintain a better level of situational awareness then like the 90s platfor

john: i didn't find many. my efforts were on the action effort reports, war diaries, ships logs, and personal reminiscences. i like to interview the people who were there and their families as much as possible. jeremy: understood. another question from david. you mentioned the pilot had parachuted into tokyo bay and did not survive. john: that's correct. they think it was joe saloff, they're almost sure. they saw his plane, and then they lost sight of him, and nothing ever turned up. jeremy: was the survival rates poor for pilots bailing out over water? and was that just par for the course that they would drown, or was he possibly wounded? john: no, if they could somehow make it down with their plane, crash land, the chances of rescue were very high. just parachuting into the ocean, the odds plummeted. but one chapter in the book is about air/sea rescues. it's fascinating how they did that. the u.s. navy would go right into tokyo bay if a pilot was downed and was on a raft, and they would just pick them up rig

but i think to john's point, you know, john and i spent a lot of years doing a lot of things together but onest things we worked together on was helping government and the political process understand the unintended consequences of internet taxation. and john and i both and many others spent a lot of time on capitol hill talking through what are the right rules of the road for internet taxation i think there was impact of that so, yes, we are highly divided nation on the other hand, a shred of hope, perhaps, to john's point about becoming a start-up nation again. joe biden, our incoming president-elect has an ambitious program around climate change. that represents an issue around which startups can and should form and so there are real opportunities, i think for the united states to take a lead around some of these big issues. and it will be vitally important that these big tech ceos decide that they want to be part of the solution here and that they understand that we can walk and chew gum at the same time. that companies can grow and make profit while at the same time meeting the n

you can watch it here and on our website and the radio i. john, and hampton, virginia, charles,g the -- florida, supporting the former vice president. donna, and hampton, virginia. caller: i am having fun with your phone calls. trying to get through is a nightmare. bit of an issue there. caller: the girl said you had some bad weather. i am wondering what you don't have an independent line anymore. that is the one i should be calling lender. i have a couple of comments for your guest. memberseveral family who are going to vote for trump for one good reason. their 401(k)s have gone through the roof. they are very happy he is in office and they will be elected. familyhave at least six members in the medical field in several different states read one is a director of a big hospital in tallahassee. mp's across from washington state. the covid thing is wore out and that is what the democrats are counting on to carry them through to election day and it is not. they have no issues in their hospitals. nick'si want to get perspective on health care, aca, a

and find common ground, i think that's worked very well and as john said he read the reviews that i talked to people who read the book and they're very surprised, i've had conversations with people who read the book and said there is so much i did not understand i did not know, that's been very gratifying and it's all about starting the conversation, i also taught people how to run for elected office with thousands of people all over the world israel, rome, the grease, mostly the united states and he really got it they get through, and my original failed proposal, what i said in the initial manuscript, i can't remember, it was 7000 words of questions it's quite a number of questions, that is long and it was hard because i really had to think very deeply about healthcare, people who don't have insurance, people with pre-existing conditions, and have a reconcile my second amendment rights with fred waybright about who endorsed the book, fred if you don't know who he is he lost his daughter at parkland high school in florida, i write about him and it's in every chapter i tried to think of, i

i think we just lost an icon, john lewis, who said we need to make young kids see that there is a mission that mission that there is a possible from the impossible. that is i think of what a lot of what ray's writings of the street. the thing you're capable of doing and with science-fiction to making it sned back soe can greet people on mars one day or we can get t another galaxy and develop warp drive a tractor beams and all these things that have grown out of science fiction. r cell phones that we use now are like little team indicators from star trek. we will eventually get to that point butou have created empathy invitation for a future that involves everyone, all cultures, races, creeds, it is one is part of the same team. >> it remains been something in "chasing space" when you quoted the legendary astronaut john young, and you know full well his legacy but one of only three astronauts to go to the moon twice, landing once. i guess also the first shuttle mission commander later. you said he once said to you, once we stop exploring, we will fail. >>ou know, john, makin the such a vis

john lewis and i met in october 1960. s, founding members, of the student nonviolent coordinating committee that became known as snic. john and i became fast friends and we remained so for over 60 years. he was just an incredible human being. i used to tell people all the time, a lot of us adopted the tactic of nonviolence. john lewis internalized it. he lived it. john was just most remarkable person i think, human being, that i ever encountered. elijah cummings, you may know, elijah's roots in south carolina. many members of his family were a part of brown v. board of education which at the time was briggs v. elliott and elijah and i used to talk about it all the time. and when he got elected to congress i had a big homecoming for elijah. brought him back to mount zero baptist church where his grandfather was a member and these two guys meant so much to me. i used to sit on the floor and talk to them all the time. and elijah passed away, it was just -- you know, john and i, our relationship was great. but elijah and i use

big fossil fuels, big fracking, i mean, it's insane. a john, a former obama administration chief of staff and eventual chicago mayor rahm emanuel reckoned. you never want a serious crisis to go to waste. and what i mean by that is, it's an opportunity to do things that you think you could not before. john candidate biden vows to hit the ground running on the pandemic. he says, president trump bungled john. has the government exploited this coronavirus crisis or could it? oh, it already has, you have to understand that of the trumpet, ministrations, $23000000.00 to $7.00 major corporations with artificial intelligence system that will track our bodies where we so the things that began with the cold, with in terms of digital identity are going to increase and worship a what used to be outside around bodies surveillance on the inside our bodies eventually. and that's where it's going. and if you look at google,, who work for the n.s.a., their program of singularity, which they say by 2029. the human mind is going to see the artificial intelligenc

what's your message for john mcafee? >> it to appeal to him and tell him, please come in, let's bring a closure to this case, and let's all carry on with our lives. >> reporter: but john mcafee seemed to be toying with the police, leaving clues in his blog, hinting he might be hiding right under their noses, cleverly disguised as a tourist or a street vendor. >> been in public many, many times. i went shopping in public the other day. went to buy some strawberries. >> reporter: our research was quite unlike that of the police. we made arrangements with middlemen for a secret rendezvous. but mcafee never showed. 40s, john might not be -- of course, john might not be on the island at all. the only person who seemed to always know how to reach him, one of his former lovers, amy. he sells girls like -- >> girls -- >> not much company. no. amy had john mcafee's trust it seemed. >> you want to go from the front -- >> reporter: doesn't matter. it was with his permission, she said, that amy showed us around the beach estate. >> here'

i think the past is definitely prologue. we have to realize we still, as john, are producing a lot of scholar athletes they just happen so many of them to play, sports. i think we have a path forward that if people, i think people really care about this issue but if they want to do something about this and we would urge that they try, they should take it seriously enough to write to their newspapers, urge their congressmen and elected officials to pay attention to this issue. it's very much in the news it's very topical but i think the public has yet to weigh in in a very serious way. i think that's the thing that the public can and should do and i think the benefits will be enormous because scholar athletes are playing a huge role in making us a more competitive nation. >> i would also add a little bit to that and say that i don't think in the history of the university that the mission has changed at all. the mission is to educate the student. do we all love to see the sports? we love them we participated in them all our life. but what makes the world go round

i call up a great pollster, john. i said john, let me ask you a question. i think we're one up in wisconsin but abc and "washington post". they did the same thing four years ago. very close to the election. they said we're down 12. and then we won, right? but we were down 12. it is disheartening. it is called suppression. it suppresses people. listen, we love the president but if he can't win. so abc, they did it four years ago. we complained bitterly with a very good lawyer. i had very good lawyers in those days. we complained very bitterly and they changed it right before the election. i think it was one, right? they took it from 12 to one in 15 seconds. i realized this is a phony business. now they come down and it says 17 down in wisconsin. 17. so i called john. john mclaughlin like the dean. he is a great guy. he has been very good with me. he said we would win four years ago. he said we'll win easily. he is probably the biggest and best. i said john, let me ask you a question, abc "washington post" came out with a poll that said i was 17 down. i'm not

john: i would say a solid seven. it will be a lot of different tactics used, but similar objectives. i think you are going to see a different tone when it comes to things like perceived anti-conservative bias on the platforms and how to deal with that. i think when it comes to issues like the size of the companies, about how companies are moderated, there is a lot of consensus. there is also consensus of wanting to get more money out for broadband and ensure there is enough spectrum for 5g, that we have an alternative to china's huawei, which will be a part of the debate. i think when it comes to being ahead on these issues, from ai to 5g to keeping tech leadership in different ways, there will be the same sort of push. tactics will look different. ultimately, a lot of these issues have been bipartisan, they have just been a lot more fiery under the last year or two. they have pretty powerful sticking points. cat: i would give it an eight. similarly, i see that there is this general consensus on what the top issues a

john: i think the markets are generally pricing in a sweep.t is one you can rationalize the fact that clients are long risking the market even if they are not long in size. there has been some outperformance over the past come of days in some of the market very exposed to sweeps like small-cap stocks. there's at least a view that biden will be the president even if he's not backed by a democratic senate. that is one of the reasons why asian assets have been waiting for several weeks. certainly, clients are invested for the idea of a biden win. they are little less completely invested in the idea of a democratic sweep, but that is the positions are suggesting right now. francine: how are you expecting the evening to pan out? once the polls close in the u.s. -- i have been reading a number of press articles saying we could initially csee a red sweep because votes in person are counted more quickly and then we get the million votes that are leaning towards democrats. is this a scenario markets should be aware of? john: i think clients are general

i initially acquired the john wheeler papers in 2006. the papers ended up being fully processed in 2016, so it was 10 years. the library made the materials available to me but i had to do old-school notetaking. when they were processed and i came back to it and transitioned to the book from the dissertation, i was kind of lost. i already looked at this but i do not know where it was. that was a great process in that it forced me to adjust the digest the material and make decisions about what can i take notes on, what can i cross-reference in other collections across the country, so it made me work from that standpoint. so i really got to know these sources. and for people interested in this kind of work, black business and civil rights, there are 109 linear feet of john hervey wheeler papers. and this is just part of what is available from the john hervey wheeler foundation, what can be said about his career and more broadly, what can be said about black business. so i am excited about the possibility of projects that other kinds of proje

and i gave birth to the twins, i'm an older mom and it was like i am ready, john. nd it's like oh, am i going to jinx him somehow? is some horrible thing would happen? and i don't want other victims to leave the way that i did for so long. because the repercussions go off. and that was largely what happened to keith. >> it can read like literature, but it can also be a reference guide, where ever you find yourself in life, whatever you might be planning to do, maybe it is a trip or joining a gym and you want to be safe going to exercise and you get these great stories, they are tragic. >> yes, they are stories. >> they are true, absolutely. and i want to tell you something, john, which you probably are due no, every one of these chapters is inspired by a case that i personally investigated to trial or covered myself. it took me two years to research and write about not being a victim and the stories here are not to scare anybody. the stories are due in power you. at a time when so many of us feel we can't control anything that is happening around us. and that includ

i care about often brokering a ceasefire between all the media and also by john a correspondent had to the former front line in the region while russian tough no bull the station. meanwhile, displaced on to the new deal on media is forced out of the areas. now, under the control of azerbaijan tack down on homes, they say they don't want to need them for what they see as the enemy. we have a good life. now we are tearing down the houses we built up, so i know one thing for sure. i would need to find himself in a situation like this. it is very hard because we do not have any other choice. so if i didn't is already picking his team to stop the white house stops despite donald trump refusing to let go of the president. yet we analyze some of the old gods, being primed for the top positions on that for foreign policies. on israel is in talks with russia over the putt to solve the sputnik feed her rotavirus vaccine, we speak to the c.e.o. of israel's top hospital, was the medical center in jerusalem, or does over a 1000000 doses of wash job, which is already in its final phase of testing, w

john: throw the question out, james. i will block you if i have to. scott: that's actually a good question. john: there you go, pete. scott: i'm not sure. other than some of the things that i was talking about earlier, particularly with mcclellan -- i've had academics and non-academics that just pile on mcclellan because he's easy to pile on against. he is his own worst enemy. they just berate him. you know, he should have done this, he should have done that. he was slow. he was lethargic. he did not want to fight. he did fight. his battle plan at antietam was not well communicated. it was not necessarily a bad battle plan. i do not think he executed the battle well at all. but the next day, september 18, is another example where people just pile on against mcclellan that he does not attack lee on the 18th. he overestimates lee's numbers. i point out that he is not the only one. it's hard to find a union officer who did not think the confederate army was as strong as they were or may be because the confederates had fought so aggressively on they had se

is very important for both as it is by john that i mean him not only strategically but culturally and religiously as well well now as the debate john will have control over this town and also the agreement says that their media will have to return to 3 disputed regions a defacto following the conflict in 1901. in regions so if you understand this agreement basically everything that but who wanted for many decades and it is a defeat for the armenian side these are both leaders speaking about it so differently the text of the statement is unspeakably painful for me personally and for people i have made this decision as the result of an in-depth analysis of the military situation this is not a victory but there will be a defeat unless you recognize yourself as a loser we will never recognize all services losers and this should. unification and revival. for my part i would like to say that i'm very glad that today we've sealed the deal to settle the years long conflict between armenia and azerbaijan the occupation as. well obviously the agreement sparked different reaction among people fr

i thank him for everything he did. [applause] john and i would be the first to tell you that we owe so much to our families, they are here with us today, they were with us every single step of the way, they sustained us, they win out on their own and they multiplied our campaign all across this country. no one did this more with grace and with courage and candor that i love that my wife teresa. [applause] thank you, thank you. and our children were there every single step of the way. it was unbelievable. vanessa, alex, chris, andre and john from my family and elizabeth edwards who is so remarkable and strong and so smart. john and kate to win out there on their own just like my daughters stud, and also emma and jack were up beyond their bedtime just like a lot of us. i want to thank my crewmates and my friends from 35 years ago, that great brand of brothers that crisscrossed this country on my behalf in 2004. thank you. they have the courage to speak the truth back then and they spoke again this year, for that i will be forever gratef

>> you know, john, i think she probably will be able to.f a new members getting their feet wet. i think the thing to look for is next week when all of the democrats are back and they're together for the first time since early october and they're voting on leadership. that will be when i think we probably see some of these grumblings we've heard since the election, those things will resume because members of different parts of the caucus will be together and be able to strategize easier and maybe get into more mischief. >> sometimes this is like behind the doors cloak and dagger secret. this is not in this case. hakeem jeffries, a key pelosi deputy, house democratic caucus chair said this. do we want to win? do we want to govern or be internet celebrities? i think it's a useful conversation for us to have because the social message wasn't helpful. one of the internet celebrities, alexandria ocasio-cortez who responded astounding, some dems don't believe it's possible to governor, be political popular, but it explains a lot about how we got h

i don't know if john or sarah want to follow up on that. >> that is very good. the metaphor of the microscope. she is exposing the attempt to dehumanize humans by treating them in these anatomical unscientific ways. in one sense, the coverage of this club meeting reflects it in a sense of what you have said and one of the line that they said it is these images are not suitable for public notice. they should not be just broadcast without context to the world. these are images that are very disturbing. but i love that analysis, deb. >> of course we deal. i think it is an observation that one of my students made. the black mat and the black frame, when you see this work directly after looking at the actual types, it starts to become a response to that case itself. which, you know, those of us who have seen it knows that it is a thick object. these would have been pocket held objects in the 19th century. imagine walking around with one of these in your pocket. thinking of it to that degree. he saw the decision to create these rounded black frames as a response to th

i don't understand it. why are you in public office? >> johndo you remember in 2016 how often we would hear that in the greenroom. >> i think if the republican senators stood up to trump in the beginning saying you shouldn't behave like this it could have straightened trump out. i think that could have happened. they didn't. they were kind of looking after themselves. as a result, he lost. there are not many one-term presidents in the modern history of the country. they did him a disservice. >> i have to go to the break. >> john, they were scared of donald trump. >> yeah. it is important though that joe biden has been there, terry. this helps each if they don't want to turn over the money and the levers. joe biden has experience about what it will take once he is the occupant of the oval office. >> you know, he is readied to go. >> say you get reelected. you inherit the earth. at the same time you lose your soul. some of them have lost their soul. god bless them. >> yeah. what good does it do. terry, what did you want to say? >> don, next time

one way or another, as it by john, will have to perhaps probably will offer some kind of more political autonomy to the region. after all, i said by john has is looking forward to a rather prosperous few years if the pipeline gets built with a gas pipeline. and it's also secured the backing. now, it has a stronger relationship with both moscow and turkey, which played a big role by the way. the turkey helped secure this military superiority for so i think as a consolidated victor without any doubt, as they did by john, has the chance to be magnanimous offer some kind of autonomy and help keep the nagorno-karabakh issue quiet because it hasn't been resolved in any way we just have a cease fire right now, a good solid ceasefire with russian peacekeepers. perhaps even turkish peacekeepers may come. but i think while mr. bruno sorry, i'd like to talk even longer about it, but we don't have any more time. but thank you very much. alison to ruin all the analyst at gulf state and like linux, thank you for joining us on the program. thank you. now trying to you last week, armenia and azerbaijan signed a peace deal ending 6 weeks o

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signed this deal and i quote him here is essentially a cuppa to lation because under this new deal as i john can keep the areas that they have under their control right now and as you already mentioned they have announced military gains in recent weeks most importantly maybe the strategic town of the shusha in the corner that's called shushi in armenia language you know you live it you mention the already been attempts a truce 3 attempts all failed what are the chances the conflict will calm this time . well you're right 3 attempts as a ceasefire have already failed so there is a risk but i do think the circumstances this time are a different the previous says cease fires have somehow been negotiated by members of the so-called minsk group so a group of states france the us and russia that has been in charge of so solving this conflict without much success for the past 30 years now this latest deal is backed by russia and turkey and there will be up to 2000 russian troops so on the ground now it's going to be interesting to see what's happening in armenia you've mentioned that many people ar

if the legal routes don't work out for us, if i john and i mean who is unwilling to talk to us about john, we had to use really see this going next. because does that mean they're going to see a long term troop deployment of both russia and turkey in the area to keep the 2 sides apart? first of all, i'll say the emotions on the azerbaijani side are about to turn a bit negative when when johnny troops get to see dom i've been there in the city of dumb, i mean it used to be a city of like 40000 people when i was there, there was nothing standing above ground level except to the shell of a mosque where there happened because living which was desecration of a religious try and of course, but it was as if someone took a knife and just sliced everything off the surface of the earth. and the only thing left of the buildings were their foundations. everything else, everything else, every door, every window, every bit of metal, every brick of these by johnny houses had been, had been vandalized and basically taken, died by the armenians who came there. so the anger is going to increase the aze

was john brown fanatic for bring on the war? i miniatures it's unknown your thoughts if he was actually mentally ill? >> the title of my book is "the zealot and the emancipator." john brown i had to think what is a word that i can apply a? i was tempted for a brief time, just a brief time to say the terrorist and the emancipator to kizzee was indeed a terrorist. if he committed those crimes today especially if it was for a cause that people didn't sign on to the definition of terrorism is someone who commit violent acts for political purpose and that's exactly what john brown did. there's too much contemporary overlay of a terrorist. i could have justified using that because he was a fanatic. was john brown krazy? was john brown and same? i would say definitely not, certainly not in the sense of losing touch with reality. he always understood what he was doing and why he was doing it. he was perhaps more committed that he knew exactly what god wanted him to do then questioning -- what self questioning people do but one of the reas

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>> i do. >> go ahead, john. >> i do, don. i think we need to understand the point that mark made earlier and you and i have talked about before. donald trump is not a psychologically healthy person. he does not have a normal adult control over his emotions and his impulses. it feels devastating to him to be defeated and so as mark indicated, he's got to blow up, kick up a bunch of dust to sort of cover the embarrassment of the fact that he has been beaten. whether or not he runs in 2024, he is going to be compelled and is compelled to do that in any case. >> what about, john, are his supporters, do they have any concern about the possibility that he may be taking or raising the money that they're sending him thinking it's for recounting and defense and he can use it to pay off other debts, other campaign debts or it can go towards a trump pac? do they have any concern about that? are they even aware? >> well, i don't think so, don. i mean, look, they didn't seem to have much concern that he was putting their lives in danger b