i went, i don't want to go through what you went through. i mean, after all, you know, food and sleep are important. so that's the reason. never dreaming that i'd wind up doing what i was doing. but, anyway. >> so, omaha beach was your only assignment. your assignment wasn't to go further in and do more stuff -- george: no, no. then, they took us off. we came back to fort pierce. and that's when commander kauffman, draper l. kauffman -- he was in charge of all underwater demolition. and he -- i don't know how all this came about. but that's when we started forming into 80-man teams -- or 88 men and 12 or 13 officers. so, we started doing the team concept. and what we were learning how to do and were training to do -- because we were getting ready to do the islands in the pacific. i think the first one that udt's did was saipan, but i'm not sure. i wasn't there. but -- so, what we started doing in fort pierce was that -- the one platoon would be assigned to an lcvp, landing craft vehicle personnel. and that was our boat. and the boat had a cre

and i went into his office. the chief-of-staff, the corner office that haldeman had. said we have him taking envelopes in the basement, and i was shattered by this. agnew was a good friend of mine. i traveled with him in 1970. i liked him. we were buddies. he had real courage. and he was just a terrific fellow. had a lot of fun with him. you could play tricks on the guy and he enjoyed it. and i think, i was really agonized and disappointed with that. i remember writing him a note the day he resigned. >> did you ever talk to him after that? >> i didn't talk about what happened and why. i assumed they had the goods on him and he pled nolo contender. whenever agnew came to down, -- came to town, once every year or two, he would call a number of agnew's close friends, and in a quiet meeting, bryce would be there and the folks, good earl, buchanan, everybody would have a couple of drinks and talk about great days. he was fun to travel with. >> there are a lot of different things you touch on and i'm going to jump around but before , -- to jump around, but before, i'm going

i went from private to private first class. ultimately, i made sergeant. was diagnosed with cancer, so i get out of the marine corps, but stayed in a program that continued my training while i was going to college. and as soon as i graduated from college, university of massachusetts in boston, i get commissioned and went back into the marine corps and stayed forever. david: the highest you can become is a four-star general. you became a four-star general. gen. kelly: i became a four-star. david: did you ever expect when you were just beginning that you would be a general? gen. kelly: no. when i was an enlisted marine, i wanted to be an nco. that's corporal. i made sergeant, best rank i ever held. david: ok, so you are in the marine corps. as you rise up, one of your assignments is to go into iraq after the invasion in 2003. so you were in combat. did you expect that you would survive? it was really dangerous? gen. kelly: well, it is dangerous. there's a lot of shooting and bombs and whatnot. we are marines. you take that on as a possibility. when we were d

i met his family, i did every year, i went there. t because i wanted to tell my life story of this transformation from selling drugs -- i did all this crazy stuff as a young kid, but i was never arrested and convicted of a crime so why should i not be able to tell my story? every month the nypd since a few hundred checks to prisons for pension checks for people in prison. they want to take my pension, but i never did anything. brian: you make $135,000 a year tax-free as your pension? mr. pegues: yes. i have a tax free pension. >> and they want that taken away from you. >> they can't do that, that's impossible. brian: did you sue them? mr. pegues: i have a lawsuit and i'm positive it will be successful because i do not do anything. all i did was tell my story, i was on a podcast. i was trying to do a book deal. get as much excitement as i can. actually worked, we got the book deal. but i did not know i'll be on the front page next to derek jeter. brian: combat jack has a podcast. what year did you talk to him? mr. pegues: 2014. july. b

heather: i went down to north carolina, and i met with gary.e furthered that conversation about race and asked each of -- ask each other hard questions. it was amazing. gary: when you get to know people, don't let it go by. my fears were unjustified. if you have 8 million people responding positively to my insecurities, they must have the same thing. if you don't practice in taking that first step, it's the hardest thing. brian: how did you find gary? heather: gary found me. as i now know, gary, a few days later, was watching tv. he was watching cnn. i went on cnn and had an interview about the fact that this clip went viral, so he heard my voice again. he had never seen or heard me before the c-span show. he heard my voice and ran into the living room and saw me talking about the clip, and at the bottom, it had my twitter handle. gary went on his computer and went on twitter for his first time in his life. his first tweet said, "how does this thing work?" he found me. he entered in my twitter handle and said, "i'm gary from north carolina." i

heather: i went to the obama school of race relations. no, i'm kidding. st: by the way, what's that mean? heather: well, i mean there's the joke about the sort of obama anger, i mean he has to do it all the time. i mean the amount of disrespect that's thrown at him, the amount of vitriol, he's had to rise above it, that's what -- that's the way he's managed to be president of the united states. host: but how do you -- how do you -- you've obviously done it. how do you do it? heather: i think there has to be -- to be a person of color in a white dominant society. you learn how to -- at least i've learned how to be how to have empathy first. gary's question was extraordinary. it's different when someone's racist to me in a line at the store, you know. he was saying, "i'm prejudiced and i need to change." it comes back to this idea of is racism and prejudice something that is individual evil or is it something that is baked into the fabric of this country and that is communicated in subtle messages every single day in our media? and if we believe, as most rac

so i went up to the university club and went swimming. ey called me out from the pool and they said, "pat, nbc and cbs are going live with it." and i said to myself, this is either going to be a great success in your career ender. and agnew delivered that speech on the networks and the reaction was sensational, nationwide, telegrams, letters, you know -- it realizes the whole country stood with us and its sentiment about the networks and about television. then that night, if you can believe it, i drove out to andrews air force base at about a.m. and got aboard air force two. agnew had invited me to ride with him down to cape canaveral and he comes on the plane late and comes over to me and says, "gangbusters", and it was just a phenomenal moment. and that moment i think, nixon's great silent majority speech, agnew's attack on the network to des moines and the follow-up attack on the washington post and new york times in montgomery, alabama, which i wrote with the vice president. that i think was the real making of the president, not 1968 s

i went to that bar and ijust started smiling, life had come. o back home when i went there. because i met lesbians, proud ones. people dressed like me, people expressing themselves like me, people in love with other women. they had their partners there. and i was like i had reached heaven. last year, under the headline "hang them", a tabloid magazine published the names and addresses of 100 gay men and lesbians. the effects of that publication were major. they were horrible. a lot of people during that period lost jobs, were evicted from homes, killed. cheering and applause. lawyers and activists had challenged the anti—homosexuality act on the grounds that it violated human rights. my children know me as daddy and they call me daddy. they don't say "hey, trans—daddy. hey, former lesbian trans—daddy." you know, they call me daddy. it shouldn't matter. but it matters now that i identify as a transgender man because that is the beginning of a conversation about what transgender is. not for me, because i have survived, but there are people who are

as soon as i graduated from college, i get commissioned and went back into the marine corps. stayed forever. david: the highest you can become is a four-star general. you became a four-star general. did you ever expect when you were just beginning that you would be a general? gen. kelly: no. when i was an enlisted marine, i wanted to be an nco. that's corporal. i made sergeant, best rank i ever held. david: you are in the marine corps. as you rise up, one of your assignments is to go into iraq in 2003. you were in combat. did you expect that you would survive? it was really dangerous? gen. kelly: it is dangerous. there's a lot of shooting and bombs and whatnot. we are marines. you take that on as a possibility. when we were designing the campaign plan, one of the things we did was to understand the iraqi army, it was nothing close to us. we designed a strategy that would minimize the amount of damage to the country and the amount of death to the iraqi army. we went there, and in our mindset, we were not there to conquer them but to liberate them. we didn't want to kill a lot o

then i went on to two full turns on the house. i have had that experience and took a 12 year hiatus. then, somehow got lured back to running for congress again. here i am again. this is my third tour of duty in congress because i started, like many members of congress, as a summer intern for the then member from the first congressional district, i worked steps away from where we are shooting this. this is like coming home again. i spent three years with him. then, later on, came back to congress. greta: when you left after serving for the first time in washington, why did you decide to leave? rep. case: i ran for the u.s. senate. like many good u.s. house members, you aspire to the u.s. senate. i ran and was unsuccessful. i was involuntary retired from the u.s. house. i went back to hawaii and went back to my job as a lawyer and hotel executive. i had a productive 12 years. again, politics and government were out there for me. when the opportunity came up to run again, it lured me back. greta: how did this come about? rep. case: i

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in fact, just a couple weeks ago i went upstate new york, this little town where i grew up, and i took my cellphone and i kinda went down memory lane. i went to the trailer park i lived at and the exact trailer i lived in with my mom and she probably worked three jobs to make $90 a week. i went to the house where me and my dad lived in a bathroom, literally almost a year's worth... a little electric heater that kept us warm. i went to the garage i worked out of. and at that phase in my life, that time in my life, i just thought that was who i was. i didn't go to college, i had dyslexia, i didn't have money, of course it takes money to make money. i had all these beliefs, but i kinda had this epiphany, if you would call it. i realized that wealthy people, happy people, successful people had different habits than what my family had, what my friends had, and the people who just worried about money and scarcity all the time. all of a sudden i started adopting these habits larry, and in my mid-20s i literally became a millionaire and i went on to create great companies. and it's amazing hav

i went to the shores of. the city. and what i saw was 3 boats coming to the shore and there was nobody to help so it was no un it was the police it was the coast guard no one. jumped into the water to help one boat just swim 100 meter to bring the boat because they didn't stop and the 3rd boat was. all did what i saw. made me actually sad and angry i didn't know what to do i was alone there for that week i went there. i saw a lot of drugs i saw people died in front children drowning.

and i went, "well, i'm doing it." and i did it.power rangers, and i said, "how much do you want to sell me the power rangers music rights for?" and he gave me this astronomical figure. i said, "well, i haven't got that kind of money." he said, "well, why should i give it to you? i said, "'cause there's no gold disc, haim, on that wall." and he went, "you're right." and so he gave it to me for like 50 grand. again, i sold millions and millions of records. ♪ go, go, power rangers ♪ go, go, power rangers - ♪ go, go, power rangers - man: again! ♪ i'm not singing anymore ♪ you've achieved so much. what is success? oh, god. the ability to do what you want to do in your life. what's it measured by? - by money, by gold records? - partly money. - money? - partly money, yeah. - enough-- - how much of a part is money? it's always a part. i've never met an artist or a producer who will do it for nothing. you aren't ashamed of the trappings of success. not ashamed of it, no. you have a beautiful home in london, you have a beautiful home in beve

pat.aid, come on over, and i went into his office. the chief-of-staff, the corner that halderman had. taking envelopes in the basement and i was shattered by this. was a good friend of mine. i traveled with him in 1970. i liked him. buddies. he had real courage. terrific just a fellow. had a lot of fun with him. you could play tricks on the guy he enjoyed it. nd i think, i was really agonized and disappointed with agnew. i remember writing him a note the day he resigned. to him ou ever talk after that? >> i didn't talk about what happened and why. the goods on had nolo contender. henever agnew came to down, once every year or two, he would call a number of agnew's close in a quiet meeting, bryce would be there and the buchanan, earl, everybody would have a couple of and talk about great days. >> there are a lot of different and i'm u touch on going to jump around but before you hat, i'm going to ask to do something i don't think you have ever done. i want you to talk about your brothers and sisters because of them. eight and you mentio

i went with my mother i was 17. he was sharing an exhibition with bruce weber. of course bruce weber was the star of the eighty's and i was just a nobody from switzerland that's how i felt he was professional not like me to. me anyway i was there at the opening and the only thing i remember was that he told his scout to go over and approach good stuff. on to the king so we went over and we're going to go stuff to new york for a shooting. stuff was in 7th heaven of course and i just stood there like a drowned rat you could see the difference i was nothing and he was everything he needs. us. now to go. after the big exhibition of the basel i'd had quite enough of all the photos of all the people and of photography all together me. so i decided to create still lives just for myself. so there was nothing and nobody to disturb me. and i could just paint for days in peace for me are here marlon says to be done it far safer by another phase had ended it really was a case of disappearing off the radar a month nobody knew who i was anymore and it was better that way. the

and i went ahead and did it. i just saw robi myers is here the editor in chief of l. magazine for 17 years. i'm so glad you're here. so yes. i had the diet and po perfect list i knew it was serial killer you know -- i had with list i had to be honest with myself. symmetry hi five for symmetry. [laughter] so i don't know. was that a mistake? >> absolutely not. no. >> no i don't think this story drove his -- his ratings up 2% and for everyone who sees they may have gone up 2% for other reasons. but for everyone who sees as a great leader they're everyone who marched in greatest world historical march in human history who don't actually see this great lead or and who vote kowngts as much as everyone elses so i think it is extremely important story. and also the first to -- to spell out the ark of a woman's life so not a single event in your life. i mean you have encounters that you don't actually consider nonconsensual or stretches with -- you know wild encounters with say -- thompson so you were driving cut off my leg with a knife and knife had a handle on it this it lo

i went through pensacola, like we all did. 1956 and 1957, 18 months, i did very well. and a lot of that had to do with the young lieutenants inspiration that he gave me. he set the stage. he later went on to be head of the fbi. hell of a guy. what a great man. then we come out of flight training. we had some amazing good grades and i ended up with roommates in north highland. famous north highland in san diego in the fighter squadron. sent orders to the fleet. we were in formation. the squadron was amazing when i got there. i don't remember when ron got there but i know we were very close. we had a lot of world war ii guys who were seniors in that squadron. mentor number three, gino. howard found the japanese at the battle of midway. he was flying a patrol plane. but we were surrounded by great talent from world war ii in that first five-year squadron. we had 60 airplanes, four different kinds. we stay home, drink a little whiskey, and take care of mama and the kids. so they did, and they encouraged us to fly. and so i had all the flight time. this is a key point for wh

i went to the shores of. money it's a city in lesbos and what i saw was 3 boats coming to the shore and there was nobody to help so it was no un it was the police it was the coast guard no one. jumped into the water to help one boat and 2nd boat had to swim 100 metre to bring the boat because they didn't stop and the 3rd boat was like one kilometer away and all did what i saw. made me actually sad and angry i didn't know what to do i was alone there and for that week i went there. i saw a lot of drugs i saw people die than from them children drowning so i went that far then 13 days after i arrived back home that's both with 30 people and a star they're going to station 3 minutes and what we did was every single day and night without sleeping we were risking people in the sea so now i'm going to show people what this looks like because those pictures tell so much the same way that when you saw a picture. i want people to see what you're actually doing we feel called team humanity so tell us about this shot what

i went to the shores of. money it's a city in lesbos and what i saw was 3 boats coming to the shore and there was nobody to help so it was no un it was the police it was the coast guard no one. jumped into the water to help one boat and then 2nd boat had to swim 100 metre to bring the boat because they didn't stop and the 3rd boat was stuck like one kilometer away and all day what i saw. made me actually sad and angry i didn't know what to do i was alone there and for that week i went there. i saw a lot of drugs i saw people die than from them children drowning so i went more than 13 days after i arrived back on this bus with 30 people and a star they're going to station 3 minutes and what we did was every single day and night without sleeping we were risking people in the sea so now i'm going to show people what this looks like because those pictures tell so much the same way that when you saw a picture. i want people to see what you're actually doing we feel calling team humanity so tell us about this shot w

i'm so happy i went.w. actually, she's probably recovering so i should just -- wonder if i could just check in with her and just see if she's -- let me facetime j. lo [ light laughter ] [ ringing hello? >> hi! [ cheers and applause >> jimmy: hey! oh, my goodness. hey, the number works! the phone number works you gave me a real number. i'm so thankful. [ light laughter ] >> you think i'd give you the wrong number okay >> jimmy: i saw you last night. and i just want to say -w, saw sh >>immy: oh, my gosh. you weren't lying. you were unbelievable! i loved it so much >> thank you. >> jimmy: i can't even - >> did you see the whole thing or you just saw parts? i know you get up early. >> jimmy: no, i saw the whole thing. i had to do it, man. >> yeah. >> jimmy: come on, i love you it was honestly unbelievable you know what i loved? what was his name again? javier javier >> the guy we brought up on stage and did the lap dance with >> jimmy: yes, yes that's exactly right [ laughter ] the guy in the audience and did

i went there one day. didn't expect to go down there and got called down 400 knots, dropping those kind of bombs. they were snake eyes. they had clamshells that go straight down. i flew close air support for about four days. that is when i had to learn to love grunt marines. i have never seen american kids that brave. that is a whole different story. had some, some mig drivers. i can see north vietnamese. they've since been over here, some of the guys, hosting them here in san diego. some of the mig guys here. i never cared that much, so i didn't go. and there's the original. john nash on the right. jimmy. second one on the lower right. i'm the third one. hank who took all the risk. god, man. i'd go in to him and complain. he'd say, get out of here and go do it. most of you are here in washington and business. we never had a consultant. [laughter] i don't mean to hurt anybody's feelings. we had no consultants. and i had no one outside a uniform involved in top gun for the first two ye ars. that is jimmy, th

i see you. she had it down by her ankle. she wentat still happening? i didn't know. i thought that ended with engelbert humperdinck or something. wow. how about that? did you guys go on a honeymoon? >> we did. well, we didn't go on our official honeymoon. you know, every year i take my kids on a summer break. so it was kind of like a kids' honeymoon. i took them with us. but we're going to -- you know, we're going to go back and do another honeymoon. i want an all exclusive trip at our beach house in compton i'm going to take her to. [ laughter ] >> jimmy: that's wonderful. what does that include? what's in the package? >> what's in the package? cookies. >> jimmy: the last time you were here you were about to go on tour of europe, right? >> yeah. >> jimmy: how did that go? >> it was cool, man. that was -- >> jimmy: where did you go? >> i went to ozwell -- oswald. and i went to london. and i went to a couple places. >> jimmy: i've heard of london. i don't know what the other one is. [ laughter ] >> you know what i was talking about, j

and i went to st peter's basilica, and i was quite overwhelmed by it.overwhelming being in there. and i thought, ijust need to have a little sit down for a minute and i saw, off in the corner, just a little area that had some chairs and there was no—one there, so i went to sit down, there was a sort of light on it. and i sat in this... and it turned out to be stjoseph‘s chapel. and i sat there and there were paintings on the wall around me depicting jesus‘s ministry. so, all the things he did, you know, there's the — he's tending to the sick, and with children, the dying, and the grieving, and all that kind of stuff. and as i sat there, i thought, "that is exactly what people are doing in port talbot right now." there are organisations and charities and support groups, and you know, carers and teachers and nurses and hospices, and all these things and i was like, "oh, that's whatjesus did, and that is what community is." that is how we keep community going and in that moment it clicked for me. i was like, "i'm telling the story ofjesus, but it's not the

i went to the shores of. it's a city in lesbos and what i saw was 3 boats coming to the shore and there was nobody to help it was no un it was the police it was the coast guard no one. jumped into the water to help one boat in the 2nd boat had to swim 100 metre to bring the boat because they didn't stop and the 3rd boat was like one kilometer away and all day what i saw. made me actually sad and angry i didn't know what to do i was alone there for that week i went there. i saw a lot of drugs i saw people died in front of children drowning so i went that far then 13 days after i arrived back on this bus with 30 people and a star they're going to station humanity and what we did was every single day and night without sleeping we were risking people in the sea so now i'm going to show people what this looks like because those pictures tell so much the same way that when you saw a picture. i want people to see what you're actually doing we feel calling team humanity so tell us about this shot what is happening her

i went home and went into a three year study binge. -- i read martin luther and went into a state of depression. when he left the roman catholic church he thought the jewish people would follow him, but when they did not follow him, he turned on them with a rage. it was just beyond anti- somatic. it was so vitriolic, hitler reprinted his book. having studied this i was looking for the door of how to reach out to the jewish people, and it happened when malcolm gave the israeli air force the order to go blow up the nuclear reactor and they took away nuclear weapons from a madman in america's blamed israel first media and started saying this was gone boo book diplomacy. i was watching on television i said to my wife, look, we owe israel an expression of appreciation. they don't need to be criticized. we need to have a night to honor israel. my wife said you should go ask the jewish people if they want to do this so i went and discovered something called the federation. i do know such a thing existed. i spoke with the man behind the counte

i went to the bottom where you have the margin of error and i went to the qp's assessment of this poll's 5 to 10 senate points. just about 500 democrats are lean democrat. that's very volatile. so i think going into -- i mean, seeing these numbers gives you sort of an idea of where the race is, but with the margin of error that big and a drop so big for senator harris and for some of the other candidates, i think the race might be a little closer to what the old numbers

then, i went back to work for the department of justice. yet, i have to say, serving in congress did not enter my mind. with four school-aged children, it did not seem like a natural progression. however, when i thought about the values i grew up with and the values my grandfather taught me from world war ii and working with our nato allies and promoting our democratic values and human rights values, when i saw that i didn't think this country was promoting those values in the way it had when i grew up, i decided to run for congress. rep. sherrill: what were the values -- >> what were the value your parents instilled in you? rep. sherrill: a deep love of this country and admiration for promoting democracy and human rights, and civil rights. i think it is this expectation that, as a country, we have never been perfect but always striving to be better. i want people today to strive to be better than we are now. >> what about your political philosophy? who shaped it? who are your political mentors? rep. sherrill: as i grew up, my mother was a d

i went to law school when you don't know exactly what you want to do with your life as one does. while i was there i wanted to put in some context so for our class in law school i began puzzling over this question of why we say never again yet we take Ãit doesn't just happen. why we seem not to notice when it's underway that we are not keeping our promise to herself. that initially was for a class and then ultimately for a wider audience became this book "a problem from hell which initially had trouble finding a publisher but it was my first book. despite having a rocky beginning >> was it rejected? >> it was dark, it was long, i was an unknown proposition it was rejected by dozens of publishing houses. but one took a chance on it Ãb then amazing constituencies evolved around the book. jewish americans who wanted to understand never again as it related to contemporary genocide. or Ãamericans who felt as a non-armenian i was documenting the armenian genocide in 1915. muslim americans looking at what happened in bosnia and also seeing student groups and jewish groups and muslims com

i went and did that. i got out of school and, even though i didn't want to do medicine, i was working in the research lab. i spent two years in cancer research in boston. and then i felt like if i'm going to do this industrial biotech stuff, i need to go back to grad school. i went back to dartmouth and got a degree in biochemical engineering. >> for the rest of your career, what did you do? rep. casten: i got a job at a technology consulting firm. in their alternative energy proud this. -- practice. because of the stuff i had done on the chemical engineering side, designing devices that could convert gasoline into hydrogen, a lot of neat alternative energy stuff. i did that for three years. and i gradually became concerned about global warming as the central challenge of our time. and increasingly convinced that there were tons of companies that had technologies not ready for prime time that were hiring us as consultants. the were also tons of companies that had proven technologies that could not figure o

just to, i went down see how far i could go down.ith just a77 feet facemask on, no breathing equipment at all. when i came up, my ears were bleeding and my nose was bleeding. it was a stupid thing to do, but i did it. >> you did not bring any weapons with you. george: no. at one time, they had the idea that we would carry a 45 with us. for what reason, i do not know, but we never did. you could put 45 in saltwater for a wild. george: we didn't carry a nice. we carried our coil for measuring out the distance. some of the fellows who are less but i never did. there was a kind that if you got , you could break the co2 tube and it would inflate, but i never wore one. had a facemask, fins, and that was it. article that i have over here is from the saturday evening post, in the title 1945, and of the article is that they hit the beach in swim trunks. it was underwater demolition teams. your uniform was some trunks, masks and that was it. george: and we carried the explosives on our back. carried 60 pounds on our back when we were going to

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in mostly grew up all-black schools until i went away to boarding school. d this was a decision my mom made when i was in seventh grade, pretty early. i went from growing up in to a virtually all the white school in new england. it was a small school in western massachusetts. i was one of two black children in the whole school. a pretty phenomenal adjustment. 11, but in, i was some ways, being that young helped. it helped me still be a child and have a sense of adventure about this incredible cultural shift that i had just experienced. that i my high school went on to was diverse, but a very elite prep school and most of the kids were color came in on scholarships. >> where was that? heather: that was milton academy outside of boston, massachusetts. >> and how were you treated at 11 years old by the white girls? heather: it was hard. we were kids. in some ways, we were just young ofugh to have a little bit that childhood innocence. there are a lot of moments where they did not understand kind of some of the basic things about being black and young. like i we