i would like to do something. think i have been having a dialogue and i want to do more. >> are you waiting, are you inspired, do you have something that has been there? that you just can't wait to get on with the creation? >> it is to exercise the freedom that we have for gesture, to experience the greatest amount of enlightenment that we can and to do the things that i really want to do in life. the things that you really want to do are the hardest things to do. >> haven't you been doing what you want to do for a while? >> i have been trying but i think you can get better at it. you can give yourself more freedom. i think picasso gave himself the most amount of freedom when he was 88, 89, 90 years of age. it is astounding how much freedom that he gave himself. >> what you mean by freedom he gave himself? >> they are so layered, they are so accomplished, they have so much energy. they have the energy of the 24-year-old but with the wisdom and knowledge and layering that someone who has kind of a cognitive consciou

this is a logical piece of ordinance that i would like to support. i actually have a daughter that was a youth commissioner when he she was 14 and it was very difficult to try to attend these meetings. and whenever she was able to make comments in this chambers or anywhere else, it was her needed to get an excuse and after a while as a parent i got pretty irritated that she was out of school half the time attending conferences and so forth. so i'm more than happy to support this. and what supervisor tang, her comments around thinking about other ways to involve the youth in particular youth commissioners that for instance the commissioners for district 7, i try to incorporate her into activities that i have for the community. she was in my -- participatory council and invited to the mayor's so she can share her voice in the discussion. so i encourage all my colleagues to do that. so there is a motion on the floor, and no objection. then the motion passes. >> you have the amendments first and pass it as a committee record. >> the motion was for the ame

at this time i would like to bring up the actual nominees. if i can first call up commissioner kathrin moore. >> madam chair, i would a number of meetings scheduled this afternoon. i will not be able to sit through all of the proceedings. many of our colleagues are here in support of many of our commissioners and i want to share your engagement your perspective on why these individuals are appropriate for the service that they have been nominated for. i would like to thank everyone for their consideration. >> thank you. kathrin moore. >> >>commissioner dr. roscoe m. moore jr: thank you. i remember serving on the advisory committee when i was appointed in 2001. i also remember sitting on the design advisory committee which i served since 2005. as you are interested and if public needs to hear, i still continue to serve on both bodies. then today i'm speak wth unchanged conviction that as an architect i'm able to bring a broader perspective to the planning commission and able to discuss issues with the planning. i remain anchored in my professio

be -- >> well, i think it would be a motion made to make a finding that we did not have sufficient evidence to support a finding that there had been a violation. >> i so move mr. chair. >> second? public comment? >> thank you commissioner renne . so one minute my esteem goes up and then comes right back down because the sunshine task force held hearings. they issued an order of determination. it was referred to the compliance and amendments committee. after a while it came back to the full task force. they issued another order of determination and said "look they didn't keep the records in a business like manner." what more do you need than to have the complainant [inaudible] than testify he took pictures of blank files? that photograph of a blank file is that not evidence commissioner keane? does the evidence only come from sotf or it can come from complainants or [inaudible]? your evidence should be the referral from sotf that the records were not kept in a business like manner, end of story. >> commissioners, i have been a professional manner for my adult life srting

>> i would say probably three, four years ago. i have not been hospitalized for a sickle cell crisis since having my tonsils taken out at the end of my fellowship in 2003 where i couldn't drink enough to hydrate myself. that's the last time. so that's over ten years ago. >> what were the circumstances of how you became interim president of howard and when did it happen? >> it happened october 1st. as i said, it was related to the president at the time stepping down announcing his resignation, his retirement i should say, and so i was asked to fill in since i was the provost and chief academic officer at the time. and it was a very humbling honor being a triple alum of the university to take on such a task. >> that's because you have an mba. >> well, that certainly does help. >> why did you do that? why did you get a master in business? >> i was associate dean for clinical affairs at the time in the medical school when i decided to pursue that. i've always been interested in business in terms of how it works. and i felt that it was

>> i believe you can't require there to be fewer sign than the code would allow. i think that's why the language is qualative than quantitative. >> is it a ratio of the mass of the building because if i recall, the exterior of the building used to be windows when it was vw. is there a certain percentage of it if it's wrapped or treated with a vinyl sticker in a sense. >> let me make sure i understand your question. are you asking if the sign is directly to the building? >> correct. >> it's different in different districts. i'm not sure if mr. wu has looked into this. we're not looking at it as part of the ca package, but it may be tied to linear feet as opposed to volume. sfwl could we advise the project manager we want some restraint? >> i could add -- i mean, model that was used for the cvs project at 2280 market street in the kas gastro was something we discussed with the project sponsor and they'll willing to do something similar. the size of the signage is limited or is established by the code but the project sponsor can -- has agreed to work with the departme

i love these things. >> would you run? on't think i can finish it. >> dangerous thing to do. >> boring to watch. marathoners are miserable people. >> is it more fun to watch than soccer. >> executive producer just said in my ear i'm not man enough to run a marathon. >> the challenge is on. >>> greg, from diane p., at what point in your life did you become interested in politics? >> when i got hired by fox. [ laughter ] i don't know. you know, i think a lot of people will say -- i got interested in politics when i was at berkeley and i was a liberal. i worked for the nuclear freeze in high school. when i got to berkeley and i saw liberalism at its full bloom that changed me that made me a conservative. later i would say 9/11 changes you a bit. it sharpens your focus. i was living in new york and you just became more -- you started thinking about things a bit more seriously than you did before. >> who was your first conservative icon, somebody you thought was -- >> bob terrell my boss at the american spectator. i used to pick

i think you. called it. different a souped up right child would have been down ok and i would not be a good you would be ok with that writes. i do i do i do. we. i really. just want to sort of just. you know cautious my focus she said she would. probably have mascara. she's. ok. never cried on camera so unprofessional. or yes. it's all that people don't see right while we're when they watch t.v. it was so frustrating when the guy was so we've been talking on the couch for what felt like for ever that story took for ever and he held it together and then we talk about the day his daughter is dying and how he never cried and then our camera guys decide they've had enough building and they say we're going to get some kind of ways now go around the couch the back of the guy's head and he starts sobbing well having to share the interview is fine i wish that i had the process that i had laid down before we started had been respected that was not a gentlemanly thing to do or a colleague thing to do if i were the reporter that was koch covering the story i would never violate my colleague's request i would respect their

this is selective morality that is being practiced here, i would say to my friend from texas. and we want people that come to this country legally, we want them to come and if they are persecuted, but we want an orderly fashion. finally i just remind my friends that despite what may be said, the fact is that the numbers indicate to young people and these terrible coyotes that are bringing them for thousands of dollars, and the los angeles times report in fiscal year 201,320,805 unaccompanied children from el salvador, guatemala, honduras or apprehended by the border patrol. only 16,609 were repatriated. as my friend from texas what kind of messes that sense. >> mr. president, the distinguished senior senator from arizona, the administration has been sending mixed messages. first a call this a humanitarian crisis. then they called it a situation. they are sort of walking his back, but i just want to remind my colleagues from arizona what the president said the few years ago in el paso when people said we need better border secure -- security measures in place, he ridiculed peopl

in i was in your seat would i ask for the same thing. >> i think that level that transparency and holding us accountable is exactly i think consistent with all of our buy-in to what is working and what may not be, and the ability to bring us altogether to have this discussion, is exactly where i think that the progressive, smart, public safety driven criminal justice system in san francisco needs to go and i think that that is the track that we are on. >> so, i would like to add, on that, some language to it, and to add to your other amendments as part of this amendment of legislation. >> i welcome that. >> great. >> supervisor mar? >> sheriff, thank you, again for explaining the process, and i know that miss foto on behalf of the district attorney office gave an example of low level offenders that, or low level offenses that being considered but, not low level offenders in this risk management evaluation and i am just wondering how we could be assured that we look at all of the information and not just the offense but also, the record of the offenders, if i was, and if i am understanding

when we talk about pdr space, this is something that i would hope i would need more data about and i would hope to be able to study it. i honestly don't know the information whether or not it's a matter of retaining the current space that we have available for prd and stopping that for being converted or if we need to talk about zoning throughout the city. that is just something that i don't know, but i know it's part of our economy that we need to make sure is strong in the city, particularly when we talk about supporting smaller enterprises. >> currently there is a lot of pressure to build more residential in san francisco, and so the tension lies between -- at least for my district, it's really important, that we retain as much of our rh1-designated district areas, neighborhoods, as much as possible is something that comes out very loud and strong in my district. but there is so much pressure to go beyond rh1 and say let's have multi-units in almost every place that you could think of. talk a little bit about that in terms of how you would support the retention of rh1-type of housi

i presume you would have a small deficit today but i just don't know. we don't look at the policy resolutions carefully and total them up. >> but you have projections in terms of how much revenue would be coming in and how much spending would be done and how much deficit there would be. what was your projection? >> we never had a projection of their budget resolution. the committee often draws on sets of estimates we have done but we don't total up the resolution and say what would happen. we don't have those numbers. >> i wish you would go back to reports and get us the figures that you were giving to us at the time because i remember them being much smaller deficits in the out-years. i remember our health care costs coming back under control. i remember a projection to a balanced budget within 10 years which would be six years from now. do you have no recollection of those events? >> congressman i think they were the committee's projections. cbo does not do projections of budget were resolutions. we only do projections of bills being considered under t

i would get in their car and i would just pickpocket them, and they would never know. i became one of the world's famous pickpocketers. i can pickpocket your wallet with my toe. you have to be tired. you have to be ready to stop. so many decisions you could make. you have to make the decision sometimes to take the hard way. you guys can change. i don't care if you feel that there's no hope out there, there's no hope for your life, that you suck or whatever, you don't. you can change. >> we love having her come back. we love having her mentor. we utilize her as a tool so we can get these females through these programs and hopefully get a handful of them to turn out like her. >> i want to thank you guys for having me here, and i'm really looking forward to getting to know anybody that would like to get to know us. thank you. >> thank you. [ applause ] >> it's good to see you always. >> yes. i'll be back next week. you know i will. >> it will be a pleasure. >> thank you. >> while april arnold volunteers to mentor women whose drug problems often coincide with jobs in the se

i appreciate your view on this and how you see things. if everybody in the world were like you, it would be perfect. so there is a motion on the floor and i think everything has been said for the motion, amendments and all. there is no objection. the motion passes. congratulations. [ applause ] >> we are joined by supervisor mar. madam clerk. item 4. city clerk: item 4: [appointments, assessment appeals board no. 3]1408394.hearing to consider appointing one member, term ending september 5, 2015, and one member, term ending september 5, 2016, to the assessment appeals board no. 3. clerk of the boarddvacant seat 5, new appointment, must have a minimum of five years professional experience in the state of california as one of the following: certified public accountant or public accountant; licensed real estate broker; attorney; or a property appraiser accredited by a nationally recognized professional organization, certified by the office of real estate appraisers, or certified by the state board of equalization, for the unexpired portion of a three-year term ending september 5, 2015.vacant

[inaudible] >> i would be so lucky as to have that problem and i would be glad to have it. yes. [inaudible] >> you said you had written a nonfiction and i know that you have but have you always thought about writing fiction because i find that fiction is just as hard to write his nonfiction. it is more fun but it is pretty difficult to write. which do you prefer and had the thought about writing fiction? earlier in your life? >> well, i was a lawyer so we were in fiction all the time. [laughter] every brief i filed was pure fiction you know but yes, one thing about nonfiction is you know the facts and you do your research. usually you can follow a timeline so that part is easy. i always felt like i wanted to tell a story. i don't know why and that's why i felt like it was so much more fun. now that i've started it i wouldn't do it. the other part was when i mentioned, when you write nonfiction and you write about any individual, i found that most people don't like what people say about them even if you say they are great. there's just something about people who don't like to read

. >> i think -- the question we're looking for and some guidance is what would be acceptable to you. i think supervisor avalos has specifics and what -- it's the energy -- and i think we don't have a particular formula. we're looking for whatever balances, for those needs and the other question is whether we go off on our own and they both have their pluses and minuses. with marin, we know what we're getting and we can move quickly and we can be apart of that program and i think as commissioner torres said, we can help achieve the economy. the down side, as far as we know, if we join with marin, we're with them for life. it's a marriage that's permanent. we're going to have limited control and we're going to be along the ride for them and that's something we need to hear from you. if you want to design your own program that's going to have a more aggressive job as a program or a more aggressive energy mix, we may not have that if we join marin. so i think that's what we're hoping to get some indication on that and it's good to hear from them. if that's not acceptable, then we have cap

i would like to confine the rest of my remarks for dennis. dennis and i have served on the market octavia cac. he's a great colleague, always collegial and looking for the best answers for the entire community. while he was president of the triangle association and i was president and continue to be a member of the mission dolores neighborhood association. once again it was a pleasure to work with him even when we held differing views. he was always attentive and listened carefully. i think it's very important his experience, intelligence and judgment that he asks period tinent questions and tradeoffs and compare sons and creative in finding innovative solutions. as the new chairman of the new transbay cac, i look forward to coming to him for guidance. thank you. >> good afternoon, supervisors. my name is dawn tren oris, the neighborhood association and member of the neighborhood network. i'm thrilled to be here to speak and support kathrin moore. i have that had pleasure of working with the commissioner for many years now and so much has been

i would say i think that the most expeditious process would actually be to grant the appeal. we are hopeful that we will have our draft guidelines available in the next week or two. and we are scheduling out in to september, and so i think that actually it would be fastest for all parties, to grant the appeal and have the process start because i think ultimately that when we analyze these cases in light of the new ordinance, that will be most prudent way forward, because there are clear requirements in the new ordinance, that these cases will not have met. so we could do that analysis, for you, but i think our recommendation would be to allow the appeal. >> okay. >> i would bite the bullet now. >> okay. >> i agree. >> i agree. >> do that way, then. >> i will move to grant the appeal, on the basis that the new legislation requires. >> okay, thank you. >> okay. >> we have a motion in front of the vice president and again, it is to deny this permit, with the finding that the new smf ordinance requires the denial. >> yes. >> and just even though it is one permit, it is two appeals

however, i would say this. and i think that we very much are interested in the quality of care with the va and the documentation is an important part of that. it is a common practice to take store all information and prior note and that doesn't change. but we don't copy and paste material from old records into new record is evidence of a current encounter with a patient. we would not tolerate that. we would not support that in the organization and that would be a part of inpatient care. >> ma'am, could you comment on what is going on? you may not share the same fear that the doctor made clear tonight or discuss something that may be a source of a va investigation. >> the theme is that we do look at this as medical inspector. it confirms the allegations and then says that it's not a problem. so here the whistleblowers said that this is happening as a doctor surgeon who discovered that another physician was cutting and copy and paste patient records. including information for the surgeon to have, very important in

was seven years old i started to type stories on a typewriter and by the time i was 10 years old i would sneak into new york on the train to go to is the top of grand central station to look at the crossroads of 1 million private lives. i did do that. i learned a lot about writing then if i waited until i was noticed for four or five years that whole period would have passed me by. all the way to the end of my life during is what allowed me to live my life and then i would dare to love again. that is part of this story i have to tell. just keep getting up putting 1 foot in front of theater. >> host: the subtitle is passages. >> and with the turmoil and in decision between the more stable states -- stages we all need change. end with us a job and relationship or the fact you just make money and what happened was a lot of men and a lot of women changed their lives. that there were other aspects of their lives they needed to put into play. i did other passages books new passages, silent passages, after writing those and then returning as independent and then after taking care of my husband

>> i would think. do not think the problem will surface. >> you have a very high success rate in 9/11 and bp, over 90%. do you expect something like that this time? >> i do. that is the only test. all of these words on both sides, people complaining or agreeing or whatever, at the end of the day, al, and you know this from 9/11 and from bp, at the end of the day, the only thing that matters, did you get the money out fast? and if people sign up? >> you think most people will find up -- sign up. >> i think when they know that they are eligible and know what they are going to get, they know the hurdles, if you go the litigation route. not only the uncertainty. under this protocol, under this program, contributory negligence, of the driver intoxication, speeding, texting irrelevant. i am not interested. >> this did not occur under mary barra's watch, but she has been in charge of this. what is your impression about how she is handling the compensation program? >> all i can say from my perspective, very coo

>> if you would let me explain, i think you would understand. inspectors general have different investigations other than just criminal investigations. >> right. >> they are working on a criminal investigation. >> i understand that. >> prior to this, they were investigating on their own, without us -- >> so your utmost confidence is about the investigation before? >> sometimes different agencies have union rules that apply. i'm not sure what the rules are here at the irs on this particular procedure. >> all right, since you were not there, we will go on. may of 2013, you started an investigation, that correct? >> the justice department. >> and that continues today? >> yes. >> missing e-mails that we have now discovered, does it not concern you that your exhaustive investigation did not uncover the fact there were missing e-mails, that you had to read about it in the press? should we be concerned that your investigation is not exhaustive if it took you more than 13 months and you had to read about it in the press about the e-mails? does that conce

i would be happy to answer any questions. >> questions directors? director reiskin. >> yes, sir? >> not specifically on this project but we have a bunch of items today that are drawing down -- i don't know what would be the right time to have a discussion about that. i don't know if you want to wait until the first the items. >> the items are put in order and each item we will tell you where we are with the contingency so they're in order how much the contingency drops. we will explain it as we go through each item. >> it's the sum of them together -- >> yeah, do you want to do it now? we could be it now. the only thing that comes at a later date under the regular calendar. >> we can also call the items together if you feel -- >> i feel it's worthy of a discussion whatever the appropriate point in the agenda is. >> why don't we do that now? we can do that now if you want. we have that information. >> any constwrukz update questions? >> i happen to be down there on a saturday when one of the slabs and impressive to see the line of the cement trucks and flowing in and out of the ope

i would pick between 2000 and today for the fixed-income market, where the fixed-income market wouldits own. i don't know what the number is, if if you were long at 14,000 in '07, my guess is your total return automatic at 17,000 would be well until 4%. >> when it comes to the stocks versus bonds question, one of the things the bulls point to, rick, is the fact that rates are low. that's been another big surprise up 2014, giving support to this market. what's it going to take for yields to rise? and what's going to be the inflection point? >> well, that's the conundrum of central banks. they've had this great window to maybe unwind some of the issues that they have created like balancing zero interest rate policy, because the horse power of the global economic has had a better effect of soothing interest rates, really better than anybody ever anticipated. to see central bankers fighting the tape, so to speak, when interest rates are low, this would be a great time for then to wean down their balance sheet, wean down the markets from some of these programs, because the window may be s

>>i would just say i agree with mr. beuller and the commissioner's comment about being specifically about the historic resource, term, in the policy of 6.one, generally in this section to -- >> [inaudible] >> yeah. so i think we can talk about overall comments. >> okay. >> commissioner. >> i have three. as part of the next steps we're going to have an opportunity to review all nine objectives and the draft text for that. will that also include implementation measures or will that be in two separate -- >> shelly [inaudible]. yes the complete document are the objectives and policies and implementation measures. that's the way the draft currently exists and we would keep it in that format so i think when we bring the complete document to you implementation measures will be a section. >> and do you have an idea when that will be? is that after the -- [inaudible] >> that's a great question. we're going to kick off our public comment period in early september. we will have an open house at the old mint we hope but we're worki

i would never get it built. if i got it built, it would not open. and if it did open, i would be in bankruptcy immediately. they didn't want to believe someone else could do it better than they did. they grossly underestimated me. >> when we come back, sheldon adelson tells us why he is the real king of macau. ♪ >> for a man whose business caters to high rollers and big spenders, billionaire shuttle -- sheldon adelson's roots are unglamorous. he was born the son of a cab driver in a poor section of boston. he first began in the convention business in 1979. he eventually sold that and other shows for hundreds of millions of dollars. he bought the original las vegas sands hotel. he replaced it with the venetian it is the first integrated resort of its kind. sound familiar? in macau, he has built another venetian. this is what adelson says made him stand out among other casino tycoons. >> you mentioned you wanted to build a las vegas in macau. how come no one else saw that? >> i guess that is what vision is made out of. >> people thought you were crazy

>> i can respond personally, but not as the board. well, in that case we would pursue other options. >> i think you will. so, unless -- thank you. unless we have any questions from my colleagues -- supervisor yee. >> just a quick question. in looking at the sales of the building and then what the proceeds may go to, i couldn't figure it out with the numbers that was in front of me. after using the proceeds to pay your debts, using some of the proceeds to help out in transition, so forth, what would be the surplus or the balance after that? and what would you be doing with it >> okay. the surplus is not entirely clear because we have some ~ a couple of obligations which have been specifically identified. one is the withdrawal liability for the employees pension fund. but we expect it will be in the neighborhood of $3 million. the use of that money is something that we need to really think through over, not just for a meeting like this. it will be looked after by a board of directors who will be planning that. what we have done is committed to say to the residents

in the fall directors as we explore in the meantime all of the available funding options and now i would like to ask steve humphries of webcore to provide an update on the phase one schedule for construction. >> good morning. i am steve from webcor/obayashi. this is an update on the construction schedule for phase one terminal. base the on the june 2014 complease date -- i'm sorry schedule update that was submitted to tjpa last week we plan to commence in early october the steel plan and the current status of the fabrication and detail support that for the structural steel. without mitigation the phase one transit center with the rooftop park would open at the end of 2017. that is rather than october 2017 which is the current complease date. to be clear the schedule provided last week shows december 28 date of substantial completion opposed to october 23. that is without any mitigation andee we have some strategies they will present that will get us back on track. we're over three months into construction on the project. the highest risk work is behind us and the work in the field is goi

i don't think that would have any effect. i think galvanizing and around this important issue would have far better and greater effect. >> i like that a lot. i don't think there are any questions like that. >> if i could answer both your questions, i think there is a fund-raising a fact because of the bandwidth on almost everything that happens and if a number out of a 24-hour day is spending six hours a day fund-raising and two hours a day in oversight hearings, is that they're right ratio that we need to protect our country today? it would be interesting for some of the media to do a survey about members of congress. how much time is spent in committees, not just a markup of the bill when you have to be there and votes are recorded on amendments and final passage of a bill. how many hours are you in that committee when they are doing the oversight of how the department of homeland security is working these things and what problems are encountered? do you have three members in that hearing for the entire time, or do you have

i would leave the department of defense alone. i would up -- i would give them more money. make sure that we didn't have the biggest stick. i would make sure with a much smaller bunch of bureaucracies running around up there except for the department of defense and i would give them -- i would say make me a huge club. we're not going to want to use it. but when we decide >>> take care of the guys and gals that risk their lives for us and lose their lives for us. >> you taught yourself how to finish. it was a big year when you sold 8,000 duck calls. >> yes. $8,000 worth. next year, 22, next year, 32, then, 37. so i said miss kaye, we're rolling! she said we're going to starve to death. >> you were living >> right here, this country kitchen the house we had there didn't cost as much as this country kitchen. so i asked her i said when do you start feeling rich and famous? she said you're the type you're so content that you were fishing in the river and eating. we had money to pay the light bill. you were so content then, it doesn't mean that much to you. do you see what i'm sa

i would like to express our gratitude to supervisor kim. i think it's a terrific step forward and it allows us to get to work on issues on which there is enormous common ground and finding solutions to the affordability crisis that faces us. thanks to the mayor's office on this and as others have said before, the prop c coalition provides a wonderful model for how we can work together in collaboration for the ends on which we all agree. i think as was said, there are some tools that we have in place to leverage an enormous amount of leverage we have now. this is a great solution. you deserve credit for the hard work you have done. thanks. >>supervisor norman yee: okay. any other public comments on this item? seeing none, public comment is now closed. i want to thank you, thank the public for coming and this last minute thing. i just want to make a quick comment, supervisor kim before i turn it over. i'm happy that we are able to come up with a compromise. i know it is a compromise. i personally would have supported stronger language, but i k

but i think that listening and being em ep emp athetic is something that i would want to do. >> thank you for your answer. >> and i really appreciate all of the work that you have done behind the scenes over the years. and you know, environmental work and looking at green power sf and that is something to take into a lot of consideration as you are before us today. and so very appreciate your presentation, and if there are any questions, we can go on to the next candidate. >> thank you. >> i just want to make a quick point about his crews. one of the things that i think is really remarkable about this applicant, besides the passion and the knowledge, is just a level of community involvement. you are everywhere, and i think that it is really important for the person who represents the public even in one of these seats to really be out there, and speaking with folks, and i think that is really an important piece of what we want to see, and i think that we have not seen, i think, the level of engagement that, i think, that we want to see, and so i am excited about that piece because i th

fine with him i made the deal would affirm that so no i don't think you and i would be talking about your bill. i wouldn't have my motive properly implant in suggesting i was not good am i word when there's absolutely no basis for it. as far as the bill is concerned to me the most important piece and one of the things i now worry about which is risk retention in mortgage lending. i really play the single biggest -- and innovation and it wasn't regulated because it was new. you had regulation of mortgage lending pretty good up to the 80s because most mortgages were made by banks and by regulators. even if we don't have qm, the fdic will still regulate the loans that mr. wilson's bank gives and i'm satisfied with that. there's a general need to be feasible but what happened was thanks to money coming in from outside the banking system and the banks were fairly maligned including small banks must the bad stuff happened outside of the banks because all of a sudden money became available. there was liquidity available for depositors. when he went to depositors you got regulated that there

and i feel incredibly confident with where it would be. so, i hope, colleagues, to have your sub mort on this. >> supervisor kim. >> thank you again. ~ support i think there wouldn't be support for the pilot program at this board, but what i would like to continue to push back on is the outside mutual third-party evaluator. i do think it would be helpful to have them evaluate the efficiency of the program, the cost versus benefit. i have great faith in our department of public health. but i don't think it ever hurts to have an outside mutual third-party lens look at our data and make sure there aren't disparate impacts on a variety of different communities. and, so, what i'd like to offer is a motion to add to page 10 line 12 that the department of public health shall have an external evaluation performed of the alt program to evaluate the efficacy of the program, including but not limited to collecting and analyzing information regarding the demographics of referred individuals and the cost of the program. and the reason, the other reason