went to work for i.b.m. in new york. i joined, the stock was at an all-tight high, when i left it was at an all-him low. they had a tough time in the 1990's. david: you joined eli lilly when? >> i followed my girlfriend, now my wife, who was going to school in indiana. i needed something to do there. i decided to enroll in the m.b.a. program. medicine is a four-year degree, m.b.a. is two, i still needed something to do in indiana so i joined lilly. david: what was your position in the beginning? >> i looked at transactions in the finance and business development group. great introduction. david: did you ever say i'm going to be the c.e.o. someday? >> not then. i was thinking i'll be here for two years and then off to chicago or san francisco and do something different. but i fell in love with the company. it's an amazing place. it's a very humanistic culture. but yet very rigorous and scientific. so it's demanding, smart people but people are nice to each other. it's the midwest. i fell in love with thing my, what down b