i.c. e told us ac tesaccess to hormone therapyd abortions is in line with the department of prisons and is the accepted industry standard. what is an industry standard? >> well, god only knows, but i will tell you this. you have to distinguish between what happens in a prison where nobody's going out for, you know, sometimes the rest of their life or at least a long, long period of time, many, many years, and what we are providing in detention centers for illegal aliens. >> they have the same rights, congressman. the people detained in the country have the same rights to have their medical needs taken care of they're innocent until they are proven guilty. aren'are we a humane, just, democratic society. >> mew main is payin -- humane s paying for somebody's abortion. >> let me ask you a question, guys. >> it has nothing to do with that. >> why don't you try to move everything to race? it's got nothing to do with race. >> i didn't bring up race, congressman. >> all right. michael, congressman, hold on. here's the bottom line. why should someone who is being deported get treatments that regul