i.c.e. from siemens, and on the right, the french tgv train from alstom.he german and french corporations as well as their government are on board with the merger. together they wanted to stand up to the chinese industry leader. and that's crrc, with an annual estimated turnover of 24 billion euros. together, siemens and alstom would've achieved just over half that figure. the canadian train manufacturer bombardier is lagging far behind. siemens and alstom warned of the overwhelming chinese competitor crrc, but in vain. >> the state-controlled supplier of trains in china, crrc, has more than 90% of its activities inside china. it has less success outside its home market. reporter: the bottom line, it's a no from brussels to both france and germany. brent: for more on this i am joined by our very own steven beardsley. it is the first time he has been at the big table with me. it is good to see you. this is bad news for siemens and alstom, but this is bigger than these two companies. steven: it is much, much bigger, and i think that is the important thing to