no one would dispute that i.f. stone was a leftist, yet he is lauded as a great hero of liberal thinking. >> you say that tv personality larry king calls stone a hero, said that jennings -- said that from jennings, for many people it is a rich opinion to reor reread stone's work on freedom and the way that government works. what's wrong with that statement? >> well, because if i -- if i.f. stone is an expert on freedom, someone who is -- if you want to look at someone whos was concerned about freedom and steadfast in opposing all threats to freedom, you look at somebody like sidney cook, who was intellectal and also a journalist, but partisan in all of the battles that raged during the 1920's, 1930's, 1940's, the intellectal battles in new york. hook was a man of the left. he tended to have sort of socialist simpa thinks and views, but he was failed to. >> you bring up walter duranti of "the new york times." what soviet state declared war on the country, rounded upry, millions of people and tortured eople, tortured them,

he was, any of you hear of i.f. stone? george was a mentor, i think, intellectually for stone. he was one of these guys, one of these independent journalists who actually read material and asked hard questions and wrote a whole lot of books. he was a wonderful writer who, i think, if my memory's correct, lived the last years of his life in the state of vermont, but i never met him. in burlington? okay. one more question, i think. >> hi there. >> hi. >> senator sanders -- [inaudible] you have had some strong words for the -- [inaudible] >> yes, i did. >> yes. [laughter] and i've been thinking about turning in my car for a -- [inaudible] what do you think? what exactly do you think hollywood's role in sort of mitigating the economic effects of -- [inaudible] >> good question. and by the way, in my office, remember, i live -- we cameuif . >> my parents never had any money at all, and my dad worked his whole life, never made a lot of money. we live inside a small apartment. but every parent dreams that your kids are going to do better than you, especially if you start off without a