i.s.i.s. of the country where i.s.i.s. are located some in what is the are located some in what is the grounds for which grounds for which excluding excluding i.s.i.s. al-nusra make sense i.s.i.s. al-nusra make sense from a point of view. from a point of view. is it their abuse record? is it their abuse record? i don't think so. i don't think so. certainly the force responsible certainly the force responsible for the gravest abuses in syria for the gravest abuses in syria is bashar al-assad and the is bashar al-assad and the syrian government syrian government >>> you believe that - i think >>> you believe that - i think you're making the point that all you're making the point that all parties are guilty of human parties are guilty of human rights abuses from the rights abuses from the perspective of somebody who perspective of somebody who works on human rights you works on human rights you believe that these various believe that these various factions all of whom have their factions all of whom have their hands blood eed, not dirty, have hands blood eed, not dirty, have to be part of a negotiation? to be part of a negotiation? >> they will be par

i.s.i.s. tweets in the world and a large number of their population is sympathetic to i.s.i.s. saudi arabia doesn't want i.s.i.s. in the kingdom. but when it comes to what i.s.i.s. is doing in iraq and syria, i.s.i.s. is serving saudi arabia's regional strategy, which is to roll back shia gains, detain iran and defeat iran and iran's proxy. so there is a sort of ambiguity in saudi arabia's policy toward i.s.i.s. secondly, you cannot ramp up sectarianism and sunni rejection of shias without playing into i.s.i.s.'s narrative. finally, i think, you know, wendy raised some very important issues about what the united states ought to do. i think one of the challenges is that, in iraq, the fight against i.s.i.s. requires the iraqi government which is the shia government which is backed by iran which, two cooperate with the united states in this fight. the victory in ramadi was an american-iraqi-shia alliance that achieved this. now, abadi is facing unhappiness on his own street, demonstrations against saudi arabia demanded the saudi embassy be shot down and other politicians like nouri al-maliki are ramping up, texs t

i.s.i.s. bombing, i.s.i.s. is angry at turkey for its support of the bombing campaign against it. there is of course the possibility that this was affected by kurdish disidents and there is at the moment a siege going on in many kurdish in the southeast and terrible casualties and people who are basically under curfew in the southeast of turkey and ignored and may be attempt to draw attention to that situation but of course it's anything i say would be speculation. and the government is feeling this is speculation by imposing a reporting ban on today's events and one of the first thing it does when there is bad news in turkey is they slap a sort of temporary reporting ban but this appears to big neared by the government's own television network. >> if it is i.s.i.l. as we have been saying there is no confirmation at this point in time, the government may then reflect on its border policies, how they control security and the to and fro of people across the border between turkey and syria. >> well this of course would be shutting the barn door a little too late. the conflict has been going on for a long time. there has been a fairly porous border between syria and turkey for sometime and the turks tried to restrict the trade, the passage of people across that border but it's a very long border and a lot of people smuggling and a lot of people crossing that border of what seems to be a certain amount of kiniving and it's hard to eliminate that i.s.i.s if that is in deed what is responsible for today's attack. >> plenty more on this as we get it and still trying to assess precisely what is happening here and how many casualties there are, as i said at this point in time there is no claim of any responsibility. lots more coming up, on the al jazeera news hour including bringing the classroom to the children and nigeria is educating those who are displaced by boko haram on the war on learning. what is described as the biggest doping scandal in australia's history. ♪ oil prices have hit a new low plummeting to less than $31 a barrel. it is the lowest level in more than a decade and industry experts say it could plunge even further and at the peak of july 2008 a barrel cost more than $137 and fallen to $30 a barrel and that is great news for people filling up their cars or cost of heating a home but bad news for oil-producing countries and none are getting enough for oil to cover their cost and some are considering devaluing their curre

i.s.i.s. attack how they could prevent such further attacks because there are clearly cells if this turns out to be i.s.i.s. then there are clearly cells within the country which have been established so it poses a particular challenge to the intelligence community here. >> appreciate your perspective and very interesting to hear from you and thanks very much indeed. more from turkey as we get it but let's move on to other news now and the u.n. humanitarian chief says 400 people must be brought out of the syrian town for life-saving treatment and made the call as food and medicine finally reached three besieged towns and a deal with the government and aid convoy arrived in damascus on monday and supplies also delivered to the pro-government villages and opposition groups are surrounding these villages and there are many areas not included in the deal. eastern guta around 176,000 people are in urgent need of help, 9,000 trapped in the damascus suburb in the town and the u.n. says i.s.i.l. fighters have cutoff 200,000 people in parts of the eastern city. the russian president vladimir putin has been talking about syria saying work must begin on a new constitution as the first step to ending the war and he added finding a peaceful solution will be made more difficult by saudi arabia diplomatic standoff with iran. let's speak to rory our correspondence dents in moscow and tell us more about what the president has been saying. >> well, it's a pretty extensive interview he gave to the german consultation and doesn't often speak to the foreign media in this detail and usually it's to t up a foreign visit and will speak to one of the publications or broadcasters in the country he is about to visit and doesn't look like that is the case at the moment and the talks are in great depth and built about different issues and spreading this interview across two different days and yesterday, monday they published the first part and today tuesday they have gone for the second and he was talking about the wet relationship between russia and the west, the relationship they have with various global institutions like nato and g8 and talking about a conflict in ukraine and of course talking about syria too. regarding his syria comments he basically pledged commitment to the agreements that were reached in geneva late last year, brokered with the united states and various other countries as well that essentially said this, syria should have a new constitution and new elections within the next 18 months so vladimir putin is continuing to push that line as well. but he has also said various things about bashar al-assad his ally in syria and said bashar al-assad is not targeting his own population, he is only targeting the armed groups that are fighting against what he calls the legitimate government of syria but that doesn't mean that bashar al-assad has escaped rebuke from the russian president, he said that bashar al-assad had done many things wrong in this conflict without expanding particularly on what those things were. he also talked about the support that russia says it's giving to various armed groups in syria at the moment that are opposed to the government. he says that they are giving support at the moment because those groups are fighting against i.s.i.srussia says that it's fighting against i.s.i.s. too so four groups russia says it supported with bombing campaigns and air support but we don't yet know further detail about whether russia is contributing to supplying these groups with arms, vladimir putin was still quiet about that matter. >> thanks very much for the update from moscow. let's return to those delivery in besieged syrian towns and we go to the logistics office and part of the convey we talked about that went in the town of madaya on monday and joins us from skype now from damascus and thank force joining us and tell us more about your journey and what you experienced. >> we got in there quite late last night. it was dark. i was very called and it was quite miserable. people in there, their first question to all of us was do we have food so there is obviously quite an issue with food. there are approximately we estimate 42000 people in there and at the same time simultaneously there was food and the same items that went

i.s.i.s., for the west is not i.s.i.s. in 2016, going forward, if the u.s. wants to get ahead of the i.s.i.s. e and end the war in syria, which i agree with randa, not difficult to see thousand vienna process will get us there, it has to be clear on what it expects of both sides in terms of cooperation. >> woodruff: serious repercussions everywhere you look. vali nasr, ran, randa slim, we k you both. >> woodruff: we've talked about it for months, now we are here: 2016. political director lisa desjardins explains how the presidential race has quickly hit another gear. >> reporter: just try and take it all in. the many candidates are scrambling as months of build-up are over, and the actual 2016 is here. it means a mounting frenzy of rallies and big-time surrogates. but today's biggest move came over the airwaves. >> the politicians can call it something else. >> reporter: a provocative new donald trump ad, stressing security. >> that's why he's calling for a temporary shutdown of muslims entering the united states, until we can figure out what's going on. >> reporter: it's trump's first t.v. ad

i.s.i.s. is caught within iraq and syria. it provides i.s.i.s. with a sanctuary within which to train the recruits, and plan the external attack. i think we are going to see more international attacks. and i would read it not as a sign of weakness, but a sign much i.s.i.s.'s strength >>> interestingly, ash carter said the military campaign against i.s.i.l. is necessary, but not efficient, acknowledging that the thread does go beyond iraq and syria. do you think even if you don't think the military is doing enough in iraq and syria to stop the threat, counter-terrorism efforts outside the area, that they are catching up to what carter called the growing tumor of i.s.i.l. i think there's a proceeder recognition within the government that i.s.i.l. is not a problem contained within iraq and syria, the question is how best to counter the affiliates. they are operating in different environments. some in failed states, some in strong states. we have to calibrate the responses. according to the respected strength and tactics of the affiliates. i.s.i.l. is the strongest affiliate. and they are starting to resemble iraq and syria more, how they may operate differently. from the institute of city of war, always good to have you with us. thank you. >> thank you. >

i.s.i.s., if you don't have me, you have the likes of i.s.i.s. and others in opposition. we had that the opposition groups have been bombed by the russians, the result is that i.s.i.s. s taken turkey in various parts. there's a direct conflict of interest there with, i guess, what we would see as clearly people have said we are never doing to deal with i.s.i.s., that's a huge strategic issue. when the coalition comes together like this, if it doesn't focus on the primary cause, which is the bashar al-assad regime. we'll never deal with it. >> how much of a difference does it make that iran is back in the international fold. the fact that we had the historic deal, and that iran is now a country that the west, for example, is talking to? >> well, i think many of the commentators point out in the biggest core of the strategic problem is the fact that the u.s. policy, obama's policy has been focused around reintroducing iran, meaning we'll sacrifice syria to iran, in order to have this autonomy with iran. at the same time, we put in money, troops. it's sort offing people in madaya. they are re-entering the oil market. they had 100 billion. so actually i think tactically

i.s.i.s. are located some in what is the grounds for which excluding i.s.i.s. al-nusra make sense from a point of view. is it their abuse record? i don't think so. certainly the force responsible for the gravest abuses in syria is bashar al-assad and the syrian government >>> you believe that - i think you're making the point that all parties are guilty of human rights abuses from the perspective of somebody who works on human rights you believe that these various factions all of whom have their hands blood eed, not dirty, have to be part of a negotiation? >> they will be part of a negotiation. the problem is how do you exclude some basis on the basis of that you are human rights abuses while turning away from others. in light of the reality that there will be a peace process that will include many culpable parties, how do you secure an outcome that will actually bring what we say is what we desire, which is peace and security for the syrian people >>> you have written that the truth telling process that names names and identifies who did what needs to be part

i.s.i.s. hitting them in the bank literally. u.s. air strike blowing up a i.s.i.s. bank. main stronghold in iraq. cash and paper money can be seen floating above when the facility is hit with two, 2,000 pound bombs. u.s. officials say millions of dollars were destroyed. the exact amount is unknown. >> president obama has signed an emergency declaration to help the city of flint, michigan with mayor karen meter got an unexpected call tri friday night. flint's water supply became contaminated, with lead exposure, which can cause behavior problems and learning disabilities in children. >>> presidential candidates are attending a tirn dinner in charleston. presidential hopeful sound off on the release of the american prisoners in iran. >> with the iowa caucus just 16 days away, trump is refusing to let go of cruz's comment that he, quote, embodies new york values. he said on twitter, when will cruz give the new york based campaign contributions back? ted cruz has apologized for that comment even though there was a dig at liberal politicians >> it seems donald has a lot of ner

i.s.i.s. is killing them. north korea prison camps in china, and it's the family of jesus christ. it's totally the foundation of why we would have big families. >> did you bring up i.s.i.s. and north korea. can the world co-exist if we are all different religions in a peaceful way? >> it has existed. not peacefully no. man is not peaceful. i'm not peace: neither are you. god came to reconcile you and me, who are not peaceful. >> how do you tie that into big families? >> i understand my parents decided to have a big family, to make a picture on the earth of what god's family looks like. it's taking the heart of god and saying god was a father to us. those. >> the campbells welcome into their home and ministry young women from across america, who want to immerse themselves in the movement. they help the family raise money by sewing aprons, and packing t-shirts to sell on the website. on top of books and articles promoting quiverful and christian home schooling we saw politically charmed literature around the office claiming that is laum is not a reliage -- islam is not a religion of piece and warning of a holy war coming to america. >> i have nothing against islamic peopl

i.s.i.s. or in the same ideology. it is possible in that sense. when you look at the incident at this point, it fits into the definition of anisise attack-- an i.s.i.s. attack. just last week there was a clash in iraq. i.s.i.l. fighters tried to attack the turkish forces in iraq and they were pushed back and actually 17 of them were killed. so in that case, if this is an i.s.i.l. attack, it can be also retaliation to what happened in iraq between the forces and i.s.i.l. so that fits into the definition as well >>> if it fits into that definition as well, do the people who do this kind of thing in turkey fit into another definition, which is perhaps more of a western definition, if you will, because in france, in germany, in the u.k. we're used to hearing the explanation that young invariably men are drawn to i.s.i.l. they're magnetised by them because their unemployed, but turkey is so much closer to ground zero who it comes to what i.s.i.l. is, what i.s.i.l. stands for, what i.s.i.l. wants the future to be, is that pull still as strong for the people or some of the people - a very small percentage, of course, that small percentage of people who want to leave turkey and go to i.s.i.l.? >> well, there are certainly a lot of angry disaffected youngsters in turkey and they do all sorts of things. some of them go towards alcohol, others are not interested in political causes. who joins i.s.i.l. from turkey is a good question. certainly there must be an element of being young disaffected and angry, but there is also certain ideology that you have to buy into, that is a very extreme rift interpretation of islam. in that case, the number of people from turkey who joined i.s.i.l. was not more than the number of people who joined i.s.i.l. from the u.k., which has a very small, of course, muslim population from which they're a tiny minority was interested. we can't say in turkey there is a big movement of people choingisise-- joiningisise, but-- joining i.s.i.s., but some have gone to join i.s.i.l. or al-nusra, which is slightly different, and we know there have been cells in turkey that are i.s.i.l. sympathisers. there are people who happen to be turkish citizens, a very small number, but who can do something like this. when you look at the context, the escalation between i.s.i.l. and turkey, and i.s.i.l.'s willingness to hit soft targets, especially westerners included, and also turks, but when you look at all this, it makes sense from the i.s.i.l. extremist point of view to have such an attack. again, i'm cautious not to put the blame on a certain group at this point because we need more facts to speak, but to speak from an ideology kal point of view, it won't be a surprise if this is another crime by i.s.i.l. >>> thank you so much for your time. we appreciate it. just to get you right up to speed. we've got that governor report saying that ten people have lost their lives in istanbul. at least 50 there were injured. our guest faking us t

i.s.i.s. of these individuals runs the gamut. some of them are individuals who are fascinated by the ideology. we have a few people who actually are in touch with the leadership of i.s.i.s. >> reporter: so far 21 states have had at least one arrest within their borders. new york has had the highest number of cases followed bits close by minnesota. >> you have such a varied of background, teenage girls and 40 year old men, you have graduate students and petty criminals >> reporter: according to the study 86% of 71 people arrested for suspected ties with i.s.i.l. since march of 2014 were male. 81% of those charged with u.s. citizens. the majority 71% were not involved in plotting terrorist attacks in the u.s. they were arrested for intent to do harm overseas. but many believes the focus could change >>isise itself has sent message to its recruits in the west, including america, to stay home, to do something in their home countries. the f.b.i. have said they're seeing a decrease in numbers of individuals who want to go to syria and iraq. whether these two facts are linked it is unclear to authorities as well, but it is a pattern weave seen >>> duglas olivent had a report.

i.s.i.s. grown the way it has? it is because it has filled a vacuum in a failed state. until you address that state you cannot confront and take down down i.s.i.s. no matter what donald trump and republicans say >>> i want to mention nicky haley, your response to that speech? she said that it sounded like president obamaing talking with these grand themes but in the end most of his promises not true >> nicky haley were fellow republicans, seeing her at a possible rising star. it probably wasn't as strong as when he delivered that extemporous street. her audience-- speech. herp aweden saw her as somebody to bring help were the republican brand. >> let's hear a little bit about the women who the republicans chose to give their response. it was governor nicky haley. she criticized the president as being ineffective and passive. here is a sample >> unfortunately, the president's record has often fallen far short of his soaring words. as he enters his final year in office, many americans are still feeling the economy too weak to raise levels. a health care plan that has made insurance less affordable and doctors less available. chaotic unrest in many of our cities. even worse, we are facing the most dangerous terrorist threat our nation has seen since september 11. this president appears unwilling or unable to deal with it >>> president obama did, indeed, talk about the threat of i.s.i.l. and other groups possesss to us and we vowed to stoep them >> priority number one is protecting the american people and going after terrorist networks. [ applause ] >> both al-qaeda and now i.s.i.l. pose a direct threat to our people because in today's world, even a handful of terrorist $who place no value on human life, including their own, can do a lot of damage-- terrorists >>> a retired major in the u.s. army, our guest. the president also went on to talk about, as we focused on destroying i.s.i.l., the over the top claims that this is world war 3, just play in their hands and he said that i.s.i.l. does not threaten our national existence. the is that going to give some fodder to opponents who are going to say here is the president again underestimating the threat of i.s.i.l.? >> i think so. it doesn't go to the world war 3 limits of death and destruction of the countries that are involved, but it is clearly a regional conflict there that our allies and friends are involved with. we have to help them and recognise it will spread. look at what boko haram is doing. this is going to be a long war. to his point generational and has been going on for a thousand years, let's say, but we have allied friends this that region to be supportive of >>> does congress needs to do something themselves, they have not been willing to take a vote on, as he said, that if congress is serious about winning the war and wandz to send a message to the troops in the world, you should finally authorises the use of military force against i.s.i.l. >> that's right. the problem with these wars is are not funded, paid for. this is why the debt is the way it is. we hadn't thought that through. what ends up happening is the military goes to war not the country. they authorize the spending, they have to raise taxes for it. the whole country feels the pinch of going after al-qaeda and i.s.i.s. we're united when we do it that way >>> two small navy boats were captured by the iranians and ten american sailers are in their cupped as we speak. the timing of that is certainly questionable. right as we're facing lifting sanctions on iran by the united nations. what do you see - what do you think happened there and the fact that the president didn't address it at all? >> i think he tried to address if by having the secretary of state say that the sailors would be released shortly as opposed in the morning worrying about the cover of darkness. the power in our u.s. navy is the strongest why the world by far. the fact that they were taken by iranians is not good >>> what does it say to our relationship with them on the date that the president was delivering a speech >> those of us that remembered that they took americans hostage and where that went we remember. this from their perspective doesn't look like someone that we're doing a treaty with, that they're going to abide by. they