as an i.t. organization within the city, and to your comment earlier, it is something we face everyday, a challenge we face every day. leveraging legacy. respecting legacy, yet implementing technology to meet the needs of the business of the city and the needs of the constituents within the city. >> thank you. having a question for you or -- when you say cloud, there are multiple model ser -- models. let me simplify them. one is instead of building your own data center which companies would do 10 years ago and build your own computer room at generators and air conditioning, you use an outsourced professional data center. that is one move to the court, which is one move to the crowd. the second model, which you have actually used to set up a mass of private club, where you can now provision servers on demand for your constituents within the city. in the context of a government with the compliance issues and security issues and mission critical services which you overlay, that is quite an achievem

first the i.t.-based education project encourages students to improve their ability to gather information. the students learn how to find useful and accurate information from among the vast amount of data on the internet. next, they must analyze what they have found. the students interpret the information and reach their own conclusions. >> we have to use basic knowledge and then use the information given in the text and put them to the and give an answer. >> reporter: the cutting-edge technology also helps improve the student's ability to think. artificial intelligence has been used to bring newton back to life to answer various types of questions from students. the children turn to newton, the latest in artificial intelligence educational software for the answers to a variety of questions. for instance, when a student asks about gravity, newton replies with a question. it's designed to deepen understanding through dialogue instead of giving students the answers right away. the introduction of i.t.

first, the i.t. based education project encourages students to improve their ability to gather information. the students learn how to find useful and accurate information from among the vast amount of data on the internet. next, they must analyze what they've found. the students interpret the information and reach their own conclusions. >> we have to use basic knowledge. and then use the information given in the test and put them together and give an answer, so -- >> reporter: the cutting edge technology also helps improve the students' ability to think. artificial intelligence has been gloods to briused to bring newtk to life. to answer various types of questions from students. the children turn to newton. the educational software, for the answers to a variety of questions. for instance when a student asks about gravity, newton replies with a question. it's designed to deepen understanding through dialog, instead of giving students the answers right away. the introduction of i.t. in education is als

consumerization is really helping i.t. and i think can really help move the whole computing experience forward, while preserving a way for people to access legacy applications that can be cloud- ified as well. >> i'm going to go right turn on the spirit let me start with something for you to think about. 80% of the u.s. economy is a service economy, right? we do not manufacture anything. we do not grow anything. we are a service economy. you probably heard this. probably every one of you in this room is in the service economy. you probably are not growing or manufacturing anything. the question i would put in front of you is what the hell is a service business? what is a service economy? right? is it answering the phone nicely? is that a service business? is it flipping burgers burgersin-n0out? i get to say that around here, right? i would contend you that a service business is a business which delivers information that is personal and relevant to you. information that is personal and relevant to you. whether that means i

executives of japanese i.t. firms organized an event under the theme innovation in tokyo on tuesday. their aim is to foster venture businesses in the country. the group invited leading i.t. professionals from abroad who have started their own companies or managed start-ups. the co-founder of smartphone operating system android shared a story. andy rubin said the software was originally designed for digital cameras, but a sluggish camera market forced the firm to switch plans and target smartphones instead. >> you have to be flexible in your business, and you have to understand, if your plan isn't going to work, you have to change. so you have to be able to make decisions very quickly, and you have to be able to be willing to change direction instantly to avoid being blocked. >> meanwhile, twitter co-founder jack dorsey suggested that entrepreneurs start businesses as a means to let the world know what they find interesting. he urged them to be confident and perseverant. >> translator: as an entrepreneur, i reali

their aim is to foster venture businesses in the country the group invited leading i.t. professionals from abroad who have started their own companies or managed start-ups. a co-founder of smartphone operating system android shared a story andy rubin said the software was originally designed for digital cameras, but a sluggish camera market forced the firm to switch plans and target smartphones instead. >> you have to be flexible in your business, and you have to understand, if your plan isn't going to work, you have to change. so you have to be able to make decisions very quickly, and you have to be able to be willing to change direction instantly to avoid being blocked >> meanwhile, twitter co-founder jack dorsey suggested that entrepreneurs start businesses as a means to let the world know what they find interesting. he urged them to be confident and perseverant. >> translator: as an entrepreneur, i realize that the word "agility" is important. speed and developing quickly globally is very crucial. >>> financial criminals in japan will now face tougher punishments. go

in terms of i.t. spending dc government using outdated languages, like -- i.t.see government using outdated languages. and're working in asp.net it's not a preferred language or the best in any way. the government is telling you how to do the job and you have to work around them. the other reason is like the set, a lot of companies view the government as a sucker. everyone kind of knows the lay of the land. you can kind of highball government and they are not going to aggressively barking you down. -- bargain you down. host: on twitter -- guest: contractor's point out that they do have to submit the tell paperwork. -- detailed paperwork. the government is aware of the different line items in whatever plan this government subcontractors have. what did they have the expertise to value that is another question. if you are not an i.t. guy can be an auditor and be very good at financial accountability. if you do not have the main expertise are you want to evaluate whether when you're doing is good for naught. host: joanna's on our republican line. caller: al was wond

if exports are cheaper, i.t. make dollars on there. they can use the money.at good all in the second half, and when we get to the second half; it's in next year. the consumer groups give ideas how it's going. financials, again, make or break the situation on there. mostly looking for guidance to see how going forward the companies are predicting. margins over 9%, again, very high. the key question, are they starting to invest? we have not seen that, and capital expendtures at an all-time high for maintenance, not expanding a plant or building a plant. really need to look into the forward guidance of how they are doing. liz: you mentioned technology. well, you said "i.t.," but i'm reading into that as a broader discussion in technology. everybody talks about the new cycle of spending. everybody put off putting new computers on to people's desks in a big corporation. is that going to start happening now? >> actually, the maintenance already has. again, last year, especially fourth quarter was a record amount in capital expendtures, but most was maintenance. wha

i would take it for i.t.. that is the lifeblood of our efficiency. that is my answer to that one. >> thank you. >> thank you, mr. chairman. commissioner, good to see you. let me thank you for being so accessible. we all recognize you have a difficult job to do, so thank you for your willingness to do that. very briefly i also want to concern, for your involved and on identity theft. you and i have talked about that. i know you are frustrated that more needs to be done but i appreciate the fact that you are focusing on that. we share the importance of that. let me talk about another issue that we talked about briefly but i want to throw this out for my colleagues, and then i want to throw out five questions for the , but i do need to add -- because the commissioner has been accessible -- that we had a conference call with your staff. thank you for that. i understand the irs is now considering declaring that the bonds of a special district, in florida, are taxable on the basis that at the time the bonds were iss

and, you know, with our i.t. grids and our software vender, they really came together and pulled it together for us. it made it possible for us to be able to serve as many couples as we have been. >> so once you're ready, you and your husband to be or wife need to be need to check in here and check in again, ok. are you also going to get married today? >> yeah. >> let's process you one by one. do your license in, exit and re-enter again check in at that desk. >> our wedding is at 3:00. >> as long as we get you in today. >> we're getting married at 2:30. >> don't worry about the time line. we're greeting people at the doorway and either directing them to the services they need on this side which is licensing or the services on this side which is actually getting the ceremony performed. >> this is an opportunity to choose to be a part of history. many times history happens to us, but in this case, you can choose to be a part of it. this is a very historic day and so i'm very, very proud to be here. >> i have been v

s estimated by unfunded mandate for i.t. changes for the industry. there's also a cost to travelers in that you are compelled by government order to provide additional information not directly to the government but for the government's purposes you're required to provide that additional information to the airline. one of the reasons the airlines haven't screamed more at the unfunded mandate is they've gotten a government gift. they have a free ride. there are no restrictions whatsoever after you've been forced to tell them this personal information on their ability to use, sell, monetize this in other ways. so it involves a massive government coerced transfer of informational property from individual travelers to the travel industry. certainly measured in the billions of dollars, although i think it's difficult to quantify. >> you might recall as travelers, a few years ago as travelers started collecting a birth date. they didn't have that if you are a frequent flyer, they need your birth date. so nowadays and it was only a few years ago that wasn't

>> xerox is really about i.t. and the i.t. slowdown that's out there.very big in the services business. there was disappointment there. xerox is a bit of a competitor there as well. if xerox starts talking about an i.t. slowdown we've got a real trend, ibm and xerox. ibm is down 10% the last two days. >> that really sizable move. that's going to set the tone for this market. when you see ibm, a company of that size, take such a big hit. all right, bob. we'll be watching. thank you so much. >>> what could send this market higher tomorrow? we certainly saw a reversal of fortune today. we'll check in with our panel of wall street's top money pros, giving you a leg up. that's next. in today's markets, a lot can happen in a second. with fidelity's guaranteed one-second trade execution, we route your order to up to 75 market centers to look for the best possible price -- maybe even better than you expected. it's all part of our goal to execute your trade in one second. i'm derrick chan of fidelity investments. our one-second trade execution is one more innova

when you focus mostly on i.t., you have a tremendous surge in i.t.alaries with regard to the tech bubble. >> gregg: and then it burst? >> now we are comparing they haven't had the growth in i.t. salaries and blaming immigration it may be their base is faulty. >> gregg: i was reading through the studies and making a big deal how american companies aren't paying enough. these stem workers are going to where the bucks are? >> that is true. if you are highly talented and dollars are going to be a little bit more, you will migrated over to that field. >> gregg: we need to jack up the wages? >> the market will do that faster than any government. they don't have to yet. when you bring a work neither this country, that is somebody who is contributing in the form of taxes, paying into social security. they will pay into obamacare. >> gregg: so somebody should say to microsoft pay more for your jobs, you won't have a deficit? >> that is probably true. >> so in stem workers, they receive the benefits of the education, sometimes funded by taxpayers. then they ju

knowing that the l to have a big i.t. department or have people who could implement this in a sfiio of time were not there. so in every state there are individuals who are sort of, i compared them to the farm extension services, folks were on the ground literally, office to office, hospital to hospital, spend time on how to convert what the best strategies are, how did engaged and involved. and we found at least in a state like kansas, which is not terribly different from the challenges i think that you see in your state, that that strategy has been enormously effective. and small providers are engaged and enrolled with those extensions operations, and find them to be kind of their service team on the ground. >> the only thing i would say, i hope that as we move forward with this, that the focus really will be on issue of interoperability we've asked questions numerous time of the committee hear of folks have testified in front of the committee about what's happening with regard to interoperability it may be that a lot of

i understand the critical nature of i.t. spending. this is especially important within the context of your transformational effort but i want to be assured we are wisely spending i.t. resources. for example, as part of your proposal, proposed increase, you requested 251 million to fund the required development activities within the iehr, interagency program office. in light of the recent decision by dod and v.a. regarding the integrated electronic health records, is this funding still required and would these resources be better spent to support your claimed backlog initiative? i would also like to mention, acting on an administration proposal that actually i opposed,es the administration budget includes proposal to utilize whats calledded a change cpi in place of the current method of calculating inflation. the administration believes that the $44 million in savings over five years and 230 million over ten years. i line up with different veterans groups, and the senate chair of the veterans affairs committee, and to oppose this cpi c

in terms of i.t. spending dc government using outdated languages, like -- i.t.nding you see government using outdated languages. the government is telling you how to do the job and you have to work around them. like the reason is set, a lot of companies view the government as a sucker. of knows the lay of the land. you can kind of highball government and they are not going to aggressively barking you down. host: on twitter -- guest: contractor's point out that they do have to submit the tell paperwork. the government is aware of the different line items in whatever plan this government subcontractors have. what did they have the expertise to value that is another question. if you are not an i.t. guy can be an auditor and be very good at financial accountability. if you do not have the main expertise are you want to evaluate whether when you're doing is good for naught. on our republican line. al was wondering if your guest had any opinion or any comment on the previous caller about defense contracts. the revolving door that a lot of former government employees a

we have worked hard the i.t. capabilities.e are building infrastructure and piping to to get the exchange is to make decisions as to whether a particular individual or family qualifies for the premium tax credit. that has been our key work on the premium tax credit today. >> well, thank you. the affordable care act has enhanced the health care for millions of seniors. as of april, more than 6 million seniors in the doughnut hole have received prescription drugs. they average over $700 per senior in 2012. give taking advantage of free annual bonuses that under medicare. mr. commissioner, for years 2014, the iris requested over 400 alien in the aca? some of this money would enhance taxpayer service. please explain how they plan to educate and assist the taxpayers. >> part of the discussion will occur as people go to the exchanges in 2013. a lot of that discussion will be worked with our friends and colleagues that hhs. but we will be doing for 14 is preparing for the 2014 returns to come in, educating people on what they need to

this unclear nature of the i.t. budget stand in the way of congress's ability to conduct effective oversight in these programs, to make sure they are working properly and more importantly meeting their mile stones. unfortunately these inconsistent projections is becoming the standard operating procedure at va which is even more trouble ling when it's our nation's veterans that stand to lose the most. mr. chairman, i thank you and look forward to spending some time with our panel today. >> thank you. >> thank you mr. chairman. and i welcome general shinseki and his staff as we all do. i just want to recount to my colleagues that i spent a very very long time last week talking with general shinseki bout how one takes a 220,000 person agency and gets it to be responsive on all kinds of different issues, many of which have been mentioned today and some more which i'll mention. and the general actually done a lot of work on management over the course of his life and training. broke described how he the 220,000 down into

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sing i.t. system will be a critical element coordination you're talking about, that right now they could not be done and see the licenses come in a make it easier. roulette no double take is for commerce and opinion. we will get to a single that anything a licensing agent d. so in terms of other countries, there's various non-proliferation regimes, which you -- is an agreement among countries. within non-proliferation bureau on how to control search and sent it in items are they talk about the appropriate level of control for dual use items that have both a military application of commercial application and because of the potential military application, we want more stringent control than anywhere to anyone. >> thank you. congratulations on your accomplishment. i am paula stern. he talked about review of conventional arms sales and transfer policy and that they keep pleased to bring me an asset to date on the review by congress of major arms sales. back in the 70s i was deeply involved in the l

i.t. giant apple has apologized to chinese consumers after state media criticized the firm over the quality of its customer service. chief executive officer tim cook issued the apology on monday. he said he's aware that insufficient communication may have led some people to believe that apple is arrogant. he expressed apologies for causing concern to customers. the media accused the company of refusing to exchange faulty products with new ones and only agreeing to replace parts. apple initially rejected the claim saying its customer service is the same in china as in other t global warming and the nuclear accident in japan have focused attention on renewable energy. residents of a small village in austria are making big strides to go green. they have built a renewable system that's powering their homes and economy. we have the story. >> reporter: it's a village of about 1,600 people. it's becoming self-sufficient in energy. this is where it all happens. what you can see here, for example,

we also reduced our i.t. expenditures through a consolidation. the savings this year are about $36 million. and we put a hiring freeze on. we got rid of contracts that were personal services contracts, essentially letting go contract and temporary employees. we have greatly reduced our expenditures in spare parts and equipment, and everything associated with that. and then in terms of the overhead functions, things like general counsel, finance and so forth, you know, i think a disproportionate reduction in those areas, all with the goal of preserving the operating mission of the agency. >> okay, and those preparations took place over months of? >> yes. >> okay. who do you represent the you feel, the american public, the airline industry? who would use you as being your in the climate? >> the american public. >> okay. and it serves the american public and moves us across the country, why would you think that only last week would be a good time to bring him in an act in concert with them or as you say, you told them what you are going to do. why w

. - sort of taking it from the paper-and-pencil age into the modern i.t. age. it sounds like this would be palatable and doable no matter what political party you are affiliated with. - absolutely. the steps that the obama administration has taken in the direction of greater simplification, those are ones where the republicans have been highly supportive. we have actually had a democratic and republican consensus in efforts to look back at the existing rules and take away the ones that aren't working or are outmoded. that is a good idea, and people who aren't normally bedfellows are working together. - the book is called "simpler: the future of government." professor sunstein, thank you so much. - thank you so much. it's getting harder to get your foot in the door these days. coming up, some startling advice for job seekers. how to make an impression before the interview. that's next. job hunting can become a whole lot easier if you know the inside secrets of hiring managers. john lee, ceo of lee core, is here to share what he knows. you have been a hiring mana

i would like to make sure that she continues to be our go i.t. at the last event there was no violence, not even an ambulance. if you were an event of a certain size, you would have so many officers. not necessarily something centralized that treats individual officers as entirely interchangeable, because they are not. this is a lesbian officer that knows our community and works very well. i have never had a better relationship with asset pd, because of her. >> i promise you that if you make that request, it will be honored. is there anyone here from park in iraq? -- park and irrec bella >> they were invited. -- rec ? what they were invited. >> i went to a neighborhood meeting about hardly strictly bluegrass. the open of the meeting was that she had not get -- not got rid of all the issues in the park, but that she was trying. so. i wanted to put that out there. [applause] >> i just also wanted to say that they have a lot of buildings open to all ages. when i was a kid growing up in new york, and we used to -- there is a statement, saving my ass.

guidelines that are published by the national institute of standards and technology for when you do an i.t. project. and so you have to be prepared with mitigation strategies in case something doesn't work exactly the way you expected. but we will be up in operation october 1. >> can you tell us about how you're developing those mitigation strategies and are those coming long? >> yes. so it's really a constant process of, as you to the bill, i'm not expert on i.t., but as you do the bill you to testing, you see how things are going, you come up with strategies to how you're going to do with, for example, suppose you get a lot more applications that come in on day one than we planned for. so you have to have redundancy, you have to be prepared for that eventuality. so those are the types of things we're doing. >> thank you. >> now recognize the gentleman from texas for five minutes, dr. burgess. >> thank you, mr. chairman. mr. cohen, let's go back to that quote about which contingency plan you have to implement. implement. the secretary was here last week and asked her about contingency pla

that's because companies are putting off making important investments in i.t.y. it's the same thing some of the big industrials are having. guys who make heating, ventilation, and air-conditioning are finding people who should've replaced their systems after ten years are waiting 12 and 13 years. same with i.t., people are waiting longer to replace their systems and some of the software systems they have work fairly well. they don't necessarily need constant upgrades. that's a bit of an issue. but with that said, even there, i pointed out, semiconductors had fairly good numbers this quarter. i thought that was a bright spot. >> absolutely, bob. thanks so much. talk to you later, bob pisani. the s&p 500 with another gain. let's go to josh lipton with extended hour action right now. >> hey there, maria, headlines here on open table, that's the restaurant reservation system. and here's the new steven cohen's s.a.c. capital has disclosed a 5% stake in the company. right now, unchanged in the afterhours, but open table up about 14% this year. maria, back to you. >>

i.t. campus to where we are now. >> you know, the fact that that happened at the m. i.t. campus and that's what led to this, it's almost as if you know, maybe they were planning to do something there at m.i.t.? i mean, have you heard anything -- to that -- that tothat effect? are they searching the campus, since we have heard of all of those explosives? >> reporter: we saw -- when i was see know an initial number of police cars, i didn't think anything of. it narr bringing in the fire trucks and that's the team that we saw it's a courthouse. but it seemed like very much of a controlled crime scene that wasn't anxiety amongst law enforcement. there was a second wave, which was approximately 15 to 20 cop cars of various, you know, agencies, tear out of there. that's when i jumped in my car to move and realized there was something bigger goingomp i drove by the gas station that was allegedly robbed by the two suspects and then i arrived on the scene in watertown, where residents said 10 or 15 minutes before i got there, they heard one or two explosions and a large number of

it's the same kind of characterization that egypt government i.t. had used for many years in the u.n. we must not abuse freedom of speech. we need to have international blasphemy laws. there's a problem coming from that embassy as well. >> if i can add she mentioned the blind spot when journalingist don't get religion. one of my coed editor. the explore in this is most journalists of course many hon rabbling exception -- honorable exception don't understand religion. i'm not talking about christian any. -- actually don't know what goes on outside that bubble. and there are many things they missed they just don't see. so if you're dealing with persecution, it can sometimes happen in the capitol of country. often in remote areas. if you're in the capital talking to other journalists and talking to diplomats and other people who don't know what is going on in the country. there's a general phenomena of journalists missing things. >> yes -- [inaudible] you mention that north korea is the worst place in the world for christians. the world -- [inaudible]

to put it into perspective, the i.t. industry body had guided that the industry itself would grow by 12% to 14%. that means that they will see a huge underperformance compared to the entire industry, not too bad, the company did not give any eps guidance, which is a clear indication that they do not have any clarity on the margin performance going ahead. they got a complete thumbs down from all the brokerages. many are suggesting a switch out of emphasis and into the stocks. so that entire back is down today. the industrial production numbers for the month of february have come in with a growth of just 0.6%. although tlchz expectation that it could be a degrowth this time around. back to you. >> sonia, thanks for that. we did get mildly positive data from india today. industrial output grew 6% in february, better than the 7% contraction that economists are looking for. inld ya's retail price rose. the slight drop won't be enough to convince double digit breaks. joining us for more, piquay. always good to see you. >> good

i.t. employers rank ahead of all the other industries followed by financial services and health care. >>> all right, we'll take a look now at your weather. did i hear you say 20 degrees warmer than a couple days ago? >> 20 degrees is above average. we should be 71 degrees in livermore. so yes, yes. probably it was 20 degrees warmer in the inland areas than just a couple days ago. good evening everybody. wow, what a day. the south bay. let's head to san jose, home of the 46th annual cherry blossom festival. this is one of the most premier cherry blossom festivals in the entire country, with 225,000 people taking part in this activity on saturday and on sunday. today's high temperature in san jose was 7 degrees above the average at 73 degrees. right now in san jose, 68. and it is 60 degrees in san francisco. these temperatures are warmer than yesterday, just 24 hours ago with a lot of warm air mass still in place. the winds are calm. now, today's highs, 66 san francisco. typically we should

the name of the 24-year-old i.t. professional is not being released, but he's been brought in on charges of breaking into and defacing an australian government website. officials said lulzsec is responsible for cyber attacks on the cia, sony pictures, 20th century fox and nintendo. if convicted the mastermind faces up to 12 years of jail time. >>> now back to the investigation into the boston terror attacks. suspe suspect dzhokhar tsarnaev reportedly told investigators that he and his brother acted alone. law enforcement officials believe the two were persuaded by their own extremist beliefs. pete williams has the latest on this case. >> reporter: as dzhokhar tsarnaev lies under guard at a boston hospital, now upgraded to fair condition, federal officials say he's told interrogators he and his older brother came up with the marathon bomb plot entirely on their own, because they believed the u.s. wars in iraq and afghanistan were an attack on islam. officials said he claims the instructions for making a bomb came from

if you're a highly-skilled i.t. person, yes, it's going up; but for most everyone else, not really. it's only going up for certain types of jobs." people in healthcare jobs, who managed to survive the recession better than most, may get additional work as more of the affordable care act is implimented. healthcare navigators will be hired at the federal, state and local level to guide individuals through an expected variety of health plans that'll be offered. funding for those positions is expected to be directed through community organizations. fast food workers are fighting for better wages in new york. workers from wendy's, mcdonald's, burger king, and other chains walked off the job thursday. it's considered one of the largest strikes in the fast food industry. employees want a pay raise to $15 an hour and to be able to protest without intimidation. new york recently raised the minimum wage to $9 an hour. however, many workers still earn between $7.25 and $8 an hour. the national restaurant association contends "additional labor costs can negatively impact a restaurant's ability

so, imagine you are an i.t. shop, for example, and you need some marketing help. maybe there's a marketing shop that needs to get their computers set up. go and offer your services in small doses to other places to get the things you need, and then you don't have to pay for it. and that is money you don't have to raise or come out of pocket for. - know your numbers, you say. - absolutely. you have got to know your numbers. too many businesses don't know their numbers. there are two words, apr and roi: annual percentage rate, that is what you might effectively use on your credit card when you are buying something. are roi is return on investment. so suppose i ran out of gas, and you, being the kind gentleman that you are, decide to lend me 20 bucks to fill up that gas tank. and i thank you for that a week later by giving you your $20 back and paying you back with a beer that costs $4. now, you would think that would be reasonable, wouldn't it? - but the apr is- - the apr is 1040%. it is not the right way to look at it. we have got a customer that took out $8,000, t

p i.t. markings on his lapels. campus police officer. did not even have a chance to do his job. the accounts are he was, sadly basically executed by one or both of these suspects. older brother and younger. younger brother still alive being transported to a hospital. what's going to start happening there in watertown, and you can tell this already, you saw one tactical officer come out toward the waiting crowd. it will be a kind of gauntlet. people are so anxious to express their thanks. you will hear every entering and exiting vehicle applauded now and here is my prediction coming true. this is going to happen all night long. these are the people who liberated their town in effect. gone through 24 hours of hell in watertown, mass. hey, lester. >> you're seeing the ambulance just went by the crowd. they believe there is a big applause from the crowd as it parted and the ambulance went by. whether the suspect is truly in there is not clear. we believe he might have been. that's quite a reaction from the crowd. these folks have had a really tough night last night. facing another t