i.t. programs with chiefn van rogal, the information officer for the office of management and budget. he testified before the homeland security and governmental affairs committee on tuesday. this is two hours. our next witness is a joining address ongoing withts to look at waste respect to federal information technology and the role chief information officers can and should lay in the process. our staff in putting this hearing together. thank you for coming. this hearing today because, to put it simply, when it comes to information technology the federal government needs to do a better job of managing its considerable investments. just by quoting one of our colleagues. this is his statement. poor information technology management is one of the biggest threats to the government and treasury because it leaves government programs susceptible to waste, fraud, and abuse. tom coburnomething said or claire mccaskill said or i said. this is something that bill: said. he was a senator. those are th

can you trust the i.t. staff of your company? in the wake of the snowden scandal, they may be the biggest risk to business security and private data. how? plus, paula deen's food empire is burning to the ground, but a top price manager says she can still pull it out of the fire. he has a step-by-step plan to save it. hope she's watching. who made money today? one of the few groups that stand to make money from obamacare. stay tuned, find out who it is. even when they say it's not, it's always about "money." ♪ so we start tonight with something you probably never think about, though it stems from the scandals swirling around the nsa leaker, edwardsnow den, we have the latest on that in a moment, but whether you are an employee or the boss, do you know now trustworthy your i.t. department is? a new spotlight on how system administrators might actually be the biggest threat to the company's security and yours. you won't believe what companies faced due to i.t. staffers plotting revenge. joining us is the counter intelligence officer

as an i.t. guy, part of your job is to troubleshoot, so you have wide access, versus his legal authority to do anything. as an i.t. specialist, he wouldn't have had any. >> pelley: what would happen to him now if he's apprehended by the f.b.i.? >> well, what's been going on today is the f.b.i. and the n.s.a. have been working together. because they're not just going to take his word for it that he was the leaker-- although there's no reason to doubt him. to look at his computer account at the n.s.a., backtrack through it and see did he print it, did he copy it? is it the documents that leaked see if they have probable cause, put that into a criminal complaint and move forward. that would mean getting an extradition order with hong kong and hoping that that could be enforced or if he moved to another country, an interpol red notice so they could follow him from place to place and go after him. they need that charge, though. >> pelley: john, thanks very much. more tomorrow, i'm sure. the other big

>> you know, unless the job description of the i.t. person in the intelligence community has changed since i was there a couple years ago, i think that he may be confusing his authority within that computer system of the nsa to access things because as an i.t. guy, a part of your job is to troubleshoot with very wide access to do anything as the specialist that he wouldn't have had it. >> and what would happen to him now if he is apprehended by the fbi? >> what's been going on today is that the fbi and the nsa have been working together as they are not going to take his word for it that he was the leaker, although no reason to doubt him to look at his computer account of the nsa and backtrack to see what the access is, see if they could come up with probable cause to put into a criminal complaint, then move forward. meaning to get the order with hong kong in hoping that it could be forced, or if he moves to another country that they could follow him from place to place and go after him. >>> more than half the americans seem to be on bo

and, you know, with our i.t. grids and our software vender, they really came together and pulled it together for us. it made it possible for us to be able to serve as many couples as we have been. >> so once you're ready, you and your husband to be or wife need to be need to check in here and check in again, ok. are you also going to get married today? >> yeah. >> let's process you one by one. do your license in, exit and re-enter again check in at that desk. >> our wedding is at 3:00. >> as long as we get you in today. >> we're getting married at 2:30. >> don't worry about the time line. we're greeting people at the doorway and either directing them to the services they need on this side which is licensing or the services on this side which is actually getting the ceremony performed. >> this is an opportunity to choose to be a part of history. many times history happens to us, but in this case, you can choose to be a part of it. this is a very historic day and so i'm very, very proud to be here. >> i have been v

can an i.t. guy get that kind of access?> reporter: government investigators thought they knew edward snowden. he sat throug personal interviews and then the government gave him access to some of its biggest secrets. >> from your experience how deep do they go into your personal background? >> it's very extensive. >> the rules for clearances don't change whether you're a government employee or a contract employee. >> reporter: edward snowden would have started by filling out this form revealing his finances in any foreign contacts. the investigators start by talking to friends and family but then use what they say to generate more contacts. >> then they'll go for people you don't put on the form. >> reporter: he's one of half a million contractors but few have access to as much information as snowden, an information security engineer. >> why does an i.t. guy get access to so much snfgs. >> it's because of where he sits. >> reporter: as a system administrator snowden could likely see outside the need to know boxes that constr

. >> he was an i.t. guy. and when you're one of those i.t. guys, you have a lot more access to a lot of different parts of a network because you're managing it. >> reporter: senator ron wyden filed legislation to declassifies the program and demanded answers from intelligence chief james clapper for denying records were collected. >> it's not possible for the congress to do the kind of vigorous oversight that the president spoke about if you can't get straight answers. >> and that was nbc's andrea mitchell reporting for us. >>> the largest attempt to rewrite immigration law has cleared a crucial step in the senate. an overwhelming 82-15 vote senators moved to what is expected to be a lengthy debate on a bipartisan proposal. it provides the department of homeland security with an additional $3 billion to improve border security. now, after the vote, president obama reiterated his full-throated support of the bill. the bill's fate is less clear in the house, but speaker john boehner did sayed he does expect to see immigration legislation signed

i would point out that in the i.t.rena, in the cyber arena, some of these folks have tremendous skills to operate networks. that was his job for the most part. 2009-'10 was an i.t. system administrator within those networks. he had great skills in that area. but the rest of it, you've hit on the head. we do have to go back and look at these processes, the oversight and those. we have those, where they went wrong and how we fix those. >> let me shift to another topic raised by senator leahy, section 215. ten years ago i first introduced legislation known as the safe act, a bipartisan bill to reform the patriot act. my co-sponsors included senators chuck hagel, john kerry and barack obama. my most significant concern with 215 was that it would be used to obtain sensitive personal information of innocent americans who had no connection to any suspected terrorism or spy activity. when the patriot act was up for reauthorization in 2005, i worked to establish a new standard for 215, and under this standard the fbi would have

. >> he was an i.t. guy. and when you're one of those i.t. guys, you have a lot more access to a lot of different parts of a network because you're manage it. >> senator ron widen filed legislation to declassify the fisa program and demanded answers from intelligence chief james clapper for denying records for collection. >> it's not possible for the congress to do the kind of vigorous oversight that the president spoke about if you can't get straight answers. >> that was nbc's andrea mitchell reporting. >>> the latest attempt to rewrite the nation's immigration laws has passed a crucial step in the senate. senators are expected what is believed to be a lengthy debate on a bipartisan proposal. it provides the department of homeland security with an additional $3 billion to improve border security. after the vote, president obama reiterated his support of the proposal. the bill's fate is less clear in the house, but speaker john boehner has said that he does expect to see immigration legislation signed by end of the year. >>> al qaeda at work,

. >> he was an i.t. guy, and when you're one of those i.t. guys, have you a lot more access to a lot of different parts of a network, because you're managing it. >> reporter: today, senator ron widen filed legislation to declassify the fisa program, and demanded answers from chief intelligence officer james clapper for denying records were collected. >> it's not possible for the congress to do the kind of vigorous oversight that the president spoke about, if you can't get straight answers. >> snowden's leaks prompted the aclu to file suit today against the government, claiming that the storing of all telephone records violates the right to privacy. and google has written the attorney general, asking for permission to make public the number of secret court orders it has been forced to comply with for data, which google says will show it is far less than the reports have claimed. lester? >> andrea mitchell, thank you. >>> tonight we're keeping a close eye on the weather across the map. it's been a dangerous 24 hours. and forecasters are predict

he has spoken and written about things like the i.t. transition, for example. i.t. technology across the united states. ,ur objective is we will sunset to turn off our legacy with tdm technology -- tdedium technolog. voice should be ip voice or voice to be wireless, that there is no market base reason why the legacy services should be in place full stop --. there have to be rule changes that would accommodate us anding off old technology we sometimes talk about we cannot have the regulatory environment that locks us into old technology and that is what we have today. tom has written about this. i am energized by tom coming in. >> other questions from the audience? other people who have not asked a question yet? right there. >> thank you. thank you for another great program. developing apps for developing countries, my question relates to that. the senator talked about spectrum crunch. i do know that talking with some -- like in sub sahara africa, there is the question of the spectrum auction will have in terms of its effect in other countries. with the introduction

so, i mean, as far as the i.t.orld is concerned, you really -- i mean, the education that would be required to be an analyst like myself is fairly extensive as well as your background or your experience in line with the military at first. but mr. snowdan was hard because of his expertise with computers as the i.t. guy. and that -- when you're an i.t. guy, that's the main thing you need to know, how to work those computers. >> russell tice, appreciate your insight. >> thank you. >>> still on deck this hour, the renewed push for gun control. what mayors around the country are planning to do to force the senate's hand. we'll talk about that, plus the republican of illinois resigns after a rant about this former miss america turned congressional candidate. what his remarks mean for the ongoing rift between the gop women and minorities as well. the agenda panel will tackle that and more when we come back. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] for dad's first job as dad. nissan tests hundreds of child seats to give you a better fit

i mean, these i.t. guys are really needed, especially as intelligence moves from spooks on the ground to electronics in the air. their skills are needed. they're not widely available. >> let's take a look at what boehner -- i'm not with him yet, the speaker was very strong on this. i think this is a more complicated case for me to handle, especially in moral terms. let's watch the speaker. >> he's a traitor. the president outlined last week that these are important national security programs to help keep americans safe. and give us tools to fight the terrorist threat that we face. >> dana, the word traitor certainly is going to rouse reactions to me. a lot of us i think are watching this. we've got a new poll out that shows most americans understand the need for this kind of surveillance, the metadata collected by the nsa and maybe even the e-mail going back and forth with foreigners. they sort of accept it by a majority vote, acceptable 56%. i think people are having a hard time with this one. the good

. >> i would point out in the i.t., in the cyber arena, some of these folks have tremendous skills to operate networks. that was his job for the most part from the 2009/'10 was an i.t. system administrator within those networks. >> no offense but i know a lot of folks who have to ask their kids to explain their iphones to them. do we really think the heads of the agencies or the ceos of these companies understand what is being built and how it works? >> i'm not entirely sure how much oversight is done by a lot of the ceos and by congress to figure out what's being built in these organizations like the national security agency. the intelligence committee, the chairs of the house and senate have said the programs work. that we can't do without them. and yet we have these contractors who are able to access far more than they really should, it seems, in the case of snowden. he shouldn't have been able to get all those documents that he managed to take women w thith h. >> i'm skeptical whether or not they could get in there

when you take a step back it's not a great i.t. spending environment.. spending environment. getting large deals signed whether it's oracle, an s&p, ibm, it's tougher today than it's been in the last, you know, four or five years. i think part of that is customers want more for less. i think these are the challenges that, you know, you're not just seeing with oracle but across the tech food chain. i think as we look forward, i think you're going to see a modest second half improvement in i.t. spend. but, you know, there's definitely some nervous investors, especially more this morning given what oracle just printed last night. >> what about -- what do you make of this move from the nas back to the nyse. what do the tech guys think about that? >> look, oracle, they've always been a pioneer, right? so this is definitely going to raise some eyebrows. especially out in silicon valley. i think it's -- it's one where they might not be the last. i think it's one where i think a lot of investors as well as other companies could be talking about it. >> does that

he is simply saying because i had i.t. access i could get into anything i wanted to get into, much like, say, people working in the irs used to be able to just look at your tax return if they felt like it even though they were not authorized to do it, the irs has since controlled that. but he's not saying he in any way could legally possibly been given that authority by anyone at the nsa to look at president obama's e-mail? >> precisely, lawrence. and you're making the important point. it's the point that he's making. it's the point that he wants everyone to understand. which is that even though he is a relatively low-level, not even an employee of the nsa, private contractor, he has been given -- by authority he means he's authorized to access these data bases and these technologies. and that there are tens of thousands of people in the nsa who are not accountable, who are authorized to do the same. everyone should go right now who's listening, go onto google and google 2008 abc news nsa abuse. and you will find stories t

so -- >> what is the new i.t.?plications and you would update them once a year or longer. you have to, when i started with ebay we had a fully dedicated data center which we had to build for the holiday season. so we had to build the church for easter sunday, the bad news was the data center had about a 17% utilization year-round. >> and nobody showed up. >> exactly. you don't have to do that. the way technology is bought, the way it's consumed or paid for is completely changing and it's changing fast. it's characterized by cloud, by mobility, no one accesses technology in the old style. in the old days your data base administrator needed to sit in your operations center. today they can access what's going on in your data center by a remote device, by a tablet. that's what we call the new style of i.t., for the enterprise and most medium size businesses they haveget from where they are to where they want to be because technology has become a real competitive weapon. in the old days it was all about how you could ma

he has spoken and written about things like the i.t. transition, for example. we are employing i.t. technology technologyg ip across the united states. our objective is we will sunset, to turn off our legacy with tedium technology.plain old telephone service. we expect that to be turned off in 2020. voice should be ip voice or voice to be wireless, that there is no market base reason why the legacy services should be in , ite.for us to do that requires a significant amount of regulatory approvals. there have to be rule changes that would accommodate us earning a whole technology. the in the industry sometimes talk about that we cannot have regulatory environment that actually locks us in told technology. that is what we have today. tom has written about this. i have high expectations of tom's energy surrounding this and being able to move this issue forward and move our country down a path where it is all internet protocol and all wireless technology. i am energized i tom coming in. >> other questions from the audience? other people who have not asked a question yet? right there. >>

. >> we turn to abc 7 i.t. and investigation tonight. a new scandal within the d.c.e department. we have learned of firefighters had a tyreke and a high, which led to his arrest. -- we have learned a firefighter tirade, which led to his arrest. >> what else he has uncovered. >> he parked in a handicapped spot a few days ago outside a local restaurant, and got into a disagreement with the authorities. he was screaming, cursing, and insulting authorities. some was caught on camera. this video shows a john challenger parking in a handicapped spot. the driver who stepped out was keith chong. several limits -- several minutes later, he took the ticket and dropped on the ground. , anders approached him according to reports, he refused to produce his license. he refused multiple orders to exit the vehicle, replied with various actual tunes -- various expletives. once inside the car, it he attempt to kick the real window. -- --ice charged with assisting resisting arrest. disobeying an officer, and littering. a man on wednesday who use the handicapped spot that he pulled into

because we are i.t. service.ral, for the economy and maply for the -- brazil is a unique opportunity to show us as a bigger country. i think that we are very excited about this as a brazilian. >> let's talk about the i.t. outsourcing in general. we're seeing a lot of relocation of jobs, some to, for example, mexico, latin america. do you think we're going to be seeing a relocation of i.t. services from south asia back to the u.s. or mexico, for example? >> i think so. i think they will become more democratic. we can suppress these jobs opportunities around the world. we have a lot of countries that, for example, in eastern europe, in asia, in latin america and the u.s. i think that we have a good opportunity to increase that all over the world. >> we are heading into a u.s. jobs report later in the day. what is your view on the job market and jobs in the u.s.? >> stefanini, we are hiring new people. our headquarters are in michigan. that is an area that was written a lot because of the crisis. and we build a very

failures and inefficiencies in government i.t.rograms we do not want to happen as he moved forward in the cyber domain. walking across the subcommittees and making sure as we look at this, the questions that we have are we developing the right technologies to protect ourselves? are we investing in the workforce we need? how do we protect civil liberties? i'm proud of my subcommittee chairs. i want to acknowledge the work of senator durbin and another on defense. i want to acknowledge the work of a ranking member. for me, we will have the fbi and the great vice chairman, senator chubby. this is a committee that is loaded with talent in this area and comes with enormous expertise from authorizing committee. a staunch protector of our liberties. senator feinstein on the committee. we have the former chair of the homeland security committee. senator collins. rarely has a committee had so much talent coming together from appropriations and optimizers. i hope our country has a sense of urgency. we are already under attack. we are in a c

some would say that we are still in the early days of the i.t. revolution. after all, computing speed and memories have improved many times over in the 30 plus years since the first personal computers came on the market, and feels like biotechnology are also advancing rapidly. even as debates and technologies improve, the commercial applications of these technologies have arguably only scratched the surface so far. i.t.der the potential for and biotechnology to improve healthcare, one of the largest sectors of our economy. the strong case that the monetization would lead to better coordinated, more effective, and less costly patient care than we have today, including greater responsiveness of medical practices to latest research findings. robots, lasers, and other advanced technologies are improving surgical outcomes, and artificial intelligence systems are being used to improve diagnoses and chart courses of treatment. perhaps even more revolutionary is a transport that would tailor medical treatment for each patient based on information drawn from that ind

that's basically every conversation i've ever had with an i.t. guy. okay. okay, you can hack into the president's email account. in the meantime, can you just get [bleep] excel to work? i have a presentation in half an hour. thanks to a respectable whistle blower we now know that the government has been actively collecting an unprecedented amount of information on a small elect group of us who either make phone calls or use the internet. i'm going to say i'll bet the amish are feeling pretty [bleep] smug right now. or they would be feeling that way if they had any idea that this story was happening. the question now is can we trust the people who we've trusted with our information? fortunately just three months ago the senate held a hearing with director of national intelligence james clapper. in hindsight, he gave us a truly interesting window into his trustworthiness. >> so what i wanted to see if you could give me a yes-or-no answer to the question: does the n.s.a. collect any type of data at all on millions or hundreds of millions of americans? >> no, s

today federal i.t. acquisition, madam chairwoman, is a cumbersome bureaucratic and wasteful exercise. in recent decades taxpayers have been forced to foot the bill for massive i.t. failures that ring up staggeringly high cost and exhibit astonishingly poor performance. cost overruns plague the vast majority of the i.t. investments. while federal managers report that 47% of the budget is spent on maintain antiquated and inadequate i.t. platforms even today. the annual price tag of this wasteful spending is estimated $20 billion a year. the air force invested six years in a modernization after a cost of more than one billion, but failed to deliver a usable product, prompting assistant secretary of state on personally appalled at the limited capabilities that prom has produced relative to that amount of invest. mission critical i.t. investors not only waste taxpayer dollars but jeopardize our safety. our bill would make more transparent by actually posting 80% of all acquisitions on the website. it would s

some observers have made the case that i.t.olution, as important as it is, will not generate the economic effects that flowed from earlier technological revolutions. as a result, these observers argue that economic growth and change in coming decades will be notably slower than the pace to which americans have become accustom. such an outcome would have important social and political, as well as economic consequences for the country and for the world. this provocative assessment of our economic future has attracted plenty of attention among economist and from others as well. it doesn't make sense. here's one way to think more concretely about the argument that the pessimists are making. 50 years ago in 1963, i was a 9-year-old growing up in a middle class home in a small down in south carolina. by the way, i was the best speller in the entire state of south carolina. [laughter] >> so as a way of getting a handle on the pace of economic change, it is interesting to ask how my family's everyday life differed from that of a typica

a south bay i.t.hnician is being held on a million dollars bond this morning charged with stealing everything from computer passwords to equipment. investigators believe andrew madrid is responsible for more than three dozen burglaries from redwood city to los gatos. authorities say he spent two years in prison for similar string of burglaries. the d.a.'s office said madrid was paroled just a few months before the latest rash of crimes between last august and april. >> believed he would target server rooms and take electronic components but he would also take whatever is available. >> the stolen items are valued at $400,000. officials say madrid also crashed the networks of several companies when he stole their components. they say financial losses for those companies could total millions of dollars. >>> an attempted abduction in pacifica turns out to be a hoax. a 10-year-old girl claimed a man tried to kidnap her on sunday. police released a sketch of the suspect based on her description but later st

i.t. revolution has economic effects of the previous two. some observers have made the i.t. revolution likely will not generate a transformative economic effects that flow from earlier revolutions. these observers argue economic growth and change in the coming decades likely will be slower than the pace of which americans have become accustomed. such an outcome would have an important social and political and economic consequence for the country and the world. ofs provocative assessment our economic future has attracted plenty of attention among economists and others as well. it does not make sense. here is one way to think for concretely about the argument. 1963, i was an inaugural growing up in a middle-class home in a small town in south carolina. i was the best speller by the way in south carolina. [laughter] ona way of getting a handle economic change, it is interesting to ask how my families everyday life back then different from that of a typical family today. if i think about it, i could quickly come up with the internet, cell phones, and microwave ovens as important

the country's central bank granted the high-tech business a contract to build a new i.t. system. japan's institute of research and the central bank of myanmar signed a memorandum on friday. they will set up a state of the art data center. operations are expected to start next january. >> this system will greatly contribute to myanmar's economic development. >> this is one of the business areas where japan can beat asian competitors looking for a way into myanmar. >> the planned system is compact and can be installed and brought on line quickly. it will ensure the high level security expected of a nation's central financial institution. the technology will also be used in myanmar's first stock exchange due to open in 2015. >>> emerging economic powers still struggling with poverty. the threat of violence, the push for peace, the shadow of conflict. get news and insight every weekday live from bangkok on nhk world "newsline." >> russian scientists say they extracted liquid blood from the remains of a woolly mammouth. it could increase the chances of bringing the extinct creature ba

what the wikileaks postmortem showed done by counterintelligence officials was that the government i.t. systems, information technology systems, the people in the government don't know how much information is out there that shouldn't be out there. i went up and interviewed the company that happens to have tried to collect information about corporations and hired them that shouldn't be in the public domain and they have found all sorts of government secrets out in the public domain through a very simple software that unfortunately is like file-sharing like opening the door of your house. anybody that knows how to use that can come into your house and look in every room and take out the file that they want. i went and visited them and they showed me the things that they stumbled upon that are out there, classified information in the public round. >> host: it's one of the more chilling parts of your book. >> guest: it is but the thing is it's not going to get any better. >> host: if i can move you back to my question, should the government -- let's put it this way. what i'm trying to look

we've seen a 50% increase in the investment in digital health care i.t. the past year.billion went into digital health care in 2012 alone and we're on pace to break that in 2013. dennis: how can individual investors get a piece of this? can they put money in a company like yours? >> they can invest in individual early stage companies if they are credited investors and there's going to be a lot of new opportunities to invest in private companies which is what we do. we invest in private companies, very early stage but there's also great opportunitieses to do that in the public markets as well. there's large companies that are really taking advantage of reducing health care costs and trying to take advantage of health care i.t., e.m.r.'s of the world where they can make the investments in public companies as well. dennis: let's talk about some startups you've been investing it. nuch surgery helps the surgeon train for a procedure? >> yes. this is an amazing application that was built by four surgeons themselves who are also developers. software developers. and they've wal

take i.t. workers, for example. they often spend hours at a time staring at computers. the doctor says the light coming from the monitors stimulates the nervous system keeping blood pressure at high levels. >> translator: it will soon be possible to take preventive measures depending on the risks associated with the job. >> reporter: this consumer products maker is already taking action. three years ago, it asked the doctor to do a study at its main office. one finding of their study -- workers doing a lot of overtime were more likely to be overweight. one possible reason is that these people are eating late at night when their metabolism is low. managers decided to open the cafeteria early in the morning, that way staff can start the day with a solid breakfast and establish healthy eating habits. staff were also encouraged to use the stairs. the result -- a 3% reduction in cases of suspected metabolic syndrome. the company expanded the program. managers found that nearly 40% of the employees at the factory were carrying too much body fat. they asked the affected worker

so there is a smaller i.t. section and he may very easily have been put in charge of a lot of access that otherwise if he was a ft. meade proper he would not have had. because it's just a measure of size and the amount of folks you would have in an i.t. office. >> that's fascinating. in terms of security contractors, and we've seen statistics saying that, you know, as many as 70% of the positions inside the world of those who have top secret clearances are actually private firms. should americans be -- is this one point of the debate that these revelations should spark us in about the nature of the intelligence system right now that is so heavily privatized? >> well, it is an issue, because there's an awful lot of work that's being done in the private sector that a decision was made some time ago that they were not going to increase the federal workforce but they were going use contractors. i was a contractor for a period of time. you get paid an awful lot more as a contractor than you do as a federal employee.

and the sen jury that gets their revenues from overassess, levered to global growth and i.t. spending. they are talking about weak asia. these are themes into q2. >> and blackberry, incompetence, that's your friez -- >> blackberry is stock-specific. one theme in the smartphone space may be the high end smartphones are saturated. the z-10, that is a high end smartphone, and not selling well. >> i would say with, the only litmus test, is everybody carried a, i'm not sure how many of us do? i don't. do you? that's the question. they make a device that was once in demand, they had clients they no longer do. you are looking at the parts of this company, is somebody going to bid it? that's a speculative exercise. don't chase that until you get a firm bid. and with china, look at the broader economic data, but look at electricity generation in china, that's declining steadily. manufacturie ining activity is down. the evidence suggests things are slowing down. they have tremendous reserves, and the fed could step back in. >> i think the story this week and the last half of the week w

section and he is basically your i.t.uy who, in his role, he claims had access to all of these documents and so forth. this raises a lot of questions. especially for a firm like booz allen which does almost 93% of its business with the federal government and a good chunk with the intelligence community. i think it will raise questions gnome what the government is looking at but in terms of how they outsourcing it to hundreds and thousands of private individuals. >> igor, this is something that mike rogers committee chair of house intelligence said over the weekend that snowden daeveidn'te the authorization to release anything like this. greenwald said that is my transparency. do you think this will shine a bright light on to the lack of conversations being had in washington, d.c. about transparency? >> it's certainly time to have that debate and attach another question to suzy's in terms of private contractors, some 70% of our national security program budget goes to these private contractors. there is evidence that they

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germany's i.t. association is calling for an investigation. >> we estimate that about 50% of all wiretaping is targeted u.s. citizens, while the other half was aimed at foreigners. we can assume that include germans. >> it is unclear weather some leading online services will fully assisted the u.s. government. companies like microsoft, apple, skype, and internet giant yahoo! claim they have never even heard about the program, but according to the "washington post," 98% of production is based on yahoo!, google, and microsoft. the top-secret document was leaked to the newspaper by a career intelligence officer who said he wanted to expose what he called a gross intrusion on privacy, saying they quite literally can watch your ideas form as you type. >> has a fundamental right been lost in the united states? for more, let's bring in the executive director of european digital rights. welcome. it is not just individuals who are threatened by this type of surveillance, is it? it is businesses as well. how

germany's i.t. association is calling for an investigation. >> we estimate that about 50% of all wiretaping is targeted u.s. citizens, while the other half was aimed at foreigners. we can assume that include germans. >> it is unclear weather some leading online services will fully assisted the u.s. government. companies like microsoft, apple, skype, and internet giant yahoo! claim they have never even heard about the program, but according to the "washington post," 98% of production is based on yahoo!, google, and microsoft. the top-secret document was leaked to the newspaper by a career intelligence officer who said he wanted to expose what he called a gross intrusion on privacy, saying they quite literally can watch your ideas form as you type. >> has a fundamental right been lost in the united states? for more, let's bring in the executive director of european digital rights. welcome. it is not just individuals who are threatened by this type of surveillance, is it? it is businesses as well. how

the i.t. sector is especially popular with investors, all of by the financial sector.in third place comes in june airing. not even the eurozone's lasting financial crisis could slow investment. only last year did u.s. investment declined slightly. >> crises come and crises go. every good business man will tell you the time to buy and is not when the market is heading up, but when the market is down, so it is a great opportunity right now for american business to invest in europe. >> it appears that u.s. firms are in agreement. according to a poll conducted by the american chamber of commerce, one in three u.s. companies in germany plans to bolster its investment and hire additional employees. >> to the middle east, and the egyptian president has appointed a radical islamist as governor of, one of the country's largest tourist destinations -- the governor of luxor. >> the new governor has ties to a militant group blamed for gunning down 58 tourists in 1997. >> in turkey, riot police have arrested dozens of people in an effort to halt weeks of antigovernment protests. >>

they really are an i.t. proxy. think they're here to stay for the long haul. >> let me get another pick of yours being boeing which has had a fantastic year-to-date despite some of the issues with the dreamliner in the past. >> yes. and, you know, that dreamliner, it still is bleeding cash but they have plenty of very profitable planes that people want. they also do extremely well if book to bill is overone and we think that's going to happen through this year and into next year. boeing is still on our list and we really like boeing. >> one quick question with all the concern, because a lot of that backlog is from the emerging markets, you sti they're still pretty much intact? >> i think so. there's a lot of cash still in those markets. they may not be growing as fast but they're still going to be growing and they want to travel, and that's that. get the heck out of asia. that's right. >> let me get your quick read on joy global. >> yes. >> gold down. miners have been hit. global economy weak. why joy? >> joy is re