is mess it -- missing there has never been a society we have been consumed i remember growing up iacocca said quality is job born now we make nothing. if you complain about something i complained about delta air lines. [laughter] you used to be able to complain dominos 30 minutes or its free. there was a level of pride and commitment. you have to work twice as hard to go have as far. even though you felt it would be hard but it was for the truth but i don't think we tell people what is expected. terrorist attack the country and they said go shopping than wait to. they're past be a place you're not it exceptional because of where your mother and father had a baby but because of what you strive for. watching the olympics, the first thought that i had it was like the kid at graduation. all of those countries invested, a great deal of them and they had a health care system superior to ours. germany, japan, they lost those wars then it became economic and i think we could learn from them i am sad that we have to. >> i watched you navigate. [inaudible] do feel some one. [inaudible] s am i but

n 1964 lee iacocca and ford came out with the mustang. go back to gdp data. it boosted growth.happening again. apple itself has sold billions and billions and billions of dollars of equipment that just didn't exist years ago. apple itself has been more important than stimulus. melissa: economists say there are two ways to stimulate the economy, two schools of thought. government does it on demand side or innovation and technology gets people to go out and buy and creates productivity in the economy which is what we're talking about here. some argued if you spend money on the iphone, it is money that you would have spent going out to dipper and doing something different. so it is not really increasing economy. it is displacing other spending . what do you say to that? >> that is what paul krugman has said. that is funny and defending estimate wlus. i has to -- stimulus. has to say if a private company does it can't be real. buy a tractor, go back 100 years, and that means you don't buy horses does that mean the economy is not any better off? no, we're better off because we're mo