. >> you also suggest that they, with one very important truth that very few people iagree with you on. >> i think ray companies have a sense of mission. companies, great they have a sense of mission. they have a sense of where a good investor has a patent and has good technology, and that is the best kind of investor to have. >> you say google is a anomaly? -- a monopoly? >> it is. they tend to focus on all these other areas. ebay has a monopoly in the auction space. >> is facebook a monopoly? >> i would argue it is not as robust a monopoly as google, because there are other places that pop up in the social networking space every year, you think of google -- think of twitter and snapchat. >> do you think they could ever become to powerful that they would stifle innovation? >> there has always been enough innovation to keep things flowing. >> does that mean that you think someday that google and amazon will not be as common it as they are? >> i think they will be dominant a while, but i don't think they will be dominant forever. >> do you see one or the other becoming dominant? toit is

different ways to think and they're bert at each of those ways because they learned all of the others iagree. contributes to a certain agility. mental agility and flexibility and i distinguish between a job and a career, and a career will last -- actually have more than one career remember most people have more than one career. may be in multiple careers. certainly have multiple jobs. if the measurement is exclusively your first job, and the salary attached to it, probably not an accurate measurement. if you measure liberal arts people ten years and 15 years out they seem to do equally well with people who are trained in other skills usually. >> guest: i believe there's a study that says that but the gap closes. >> host: it does close. i think -- for me, these are four years where you can explore a range of issues that i think in my own view have intrinsic value, not simply pragmatic value, and that will inform you and shape you as you you are. we couldn't agree more on that. one thing we try to do, you also talk in the book about how practical and driven for credentialing students are, and