we are back with ian bremer and anne-marie slaughter. ian, tell us what you make of this.his is the beginning of a chance for the afghan government to show whether it can hold its own and claiming that it is going to be able to take back kunduz from the taliban? >> sadly, i think they're done. the state department put out a statement a couple of hours ago saying that if the taliban wants legitimacy they have to stop the attacks. that's about what the america response is to some air strikes, too, but we're leaving, of course, as you know. so the taliban, i expect they're going to take over. the biden administration knows that, which is one of the reasons they decided to end the war because they thought it was a question of when, not if. but it's happening faster than white house advisers to biden had expected. this is an embarrassment to the united states. there's no question. but it's not a national security priority. that's why trump wanted out. that's why biden wants out, too. there are going to be a lot of people on the ground that are going to be under massive humanita

i'm joined by ian bremer, president and founder of eurasia group.e last spoke right after the events inafghanistan started t take that tragic twist with the taliban overtaking much of the land there you said the sort of biggest thing at stake was the success of the u.s. withdrawal, including whether there were any american deaths. we unfortunately just learned about the deaths of four marines, according to various news reports what does that mean for u.s. policy now >> it's a big deal these are the first american servicemen to have been killed in afghanistan since february in 2020 clearly those that are seeing the evacuation as a failure on the biden administration, both in the united states, his political opponents, but also internationally will be leaning into that. it is obviously harder for the united states to continue evacuations, even up until august 31, given how much the security situation around kabul airport has deteriorated it's also going to be difficult for the biden administration not to engage in some kind of direct military retaliat

also political scientist ian bremer, president of g-zero media and the you're rare sha group. colonel, what does it say to you about the situation on the ground that the president is bringing in nearly double the number of troops he initially deployed last week? >> i tell you, pam, it's really a crisis situation. you have something here that is extremely dangerous for the people on the ground. it also shows that what we're dealing with is really a way in which we've got to do something more to get people out in terms of afghan interpreters. so what we have here is from a strategic standpoint a very difficult situation. we have a problem that in some ways was of our own making, but in other ways was a result of ineptitude and corruption in the afghan military. and the resulting mess that we're dealing with now is one in which there are really -- no good way out, that's what we see here. we have a problem that is partially of our own making, but it is a very difficult way to extract ourselves from this problem, and we have to find a way very quickly to do that. because it is a s

ian bremer joins us. the u.s. withdrawal does complicate a lot of relationships on the world stage.a really warming up to the taliban? if so, what's in it for beijing? >> yeah, they certainly are. i expect they will make afghanistan part of them in part they'll do that because it's a propaganda win after the united states has failed on the ground in kabul. they don't want to fail the state in afghanistan they would be concerned about the rise of islamic fundamentalism and support for uighur successionism in the etim movement this is something china is very concerned about. also because long term the potential for being able to exploit rare earth metals and developing infrastructure that matters for post fossil fuel energy production is something the chinese would be interested in though i will say the difficulty in creating that infrastructure and actually bringing that -- extracting those resources and bringing them to market is extraordinary. >> i was going to ask you, you mentioned down the road. we're familiar with the infrastructure dreams they have. can we talk about that plan

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we move own to ian bremer. i want to put up something boar boris johnson said. there is some carrots here to negotiate with the taliban. if those huge funds are going to be unfrozen eventually for use by the government and people of afghanistan, then what we're saying is afghanistan can't lurch back. girls will be educated after the age of 18 and so on. is that a fig leaf to the taliban? is that a premise that it's inevitable that we're going to have to figure out how to live with the taliban and negotiate with them? is this something that we have to do right now in order to guarantee the safety of getting these folks out? >> i think guaranteeing the safety of the remaining americans is much more stick than carrot. that is if if you don't let these americans out, and they're trying to get out even beyond august 31st, you risk being struck directly militarily by the united states and allies. i'm fairy confident that message was delivered directly by the head of the cia, bill burns, to the head of the taliban just a couple of days ago. that's very different from a

we'll see about the far east ian, thank you ian bremer >>> meantime, china cracking down on a rise ofs so far this month, the country has logged 1500 new cases, 20% more than the entire month of july according to china's national health commission to be clear the number of reported infections in china ist taking any much lower than many countries but the chinese government not taking any chances officials there imposing targeted lockdowns, travel restrictions and mass testing across major cities. some experts worry the government's zero tolerance approach might be holding back a return to normal from beijing. here is eunice yoon. >> reporter: authorities are limiting tickets to 60% capacity many places are severely restricted or completely shut. e limiting ing tickets to 60% capacity many place china's zero tolerance policy for covid-19 is so strict, it forced the closure of a whole shipping terminal because of one casef container vessel data from today show dozens of container vessels lined up outside the world's third busiest port which suspended operations after one staffer fell il

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we spoke with a geopolitical analyst ian bremer last year and he said basically the way that the public ultimately reacts to what the biden administration has done here depends on whether there is american blood shed as it all unfolds to the extent that you can take us inside what you think the taliban's strategy or goals might be in that regard. >> reporter: that's a great question i think the taliban want to give a window of opportunity for the u.s. to get out of the country from what we're hearing right now, there hasn't been any direct conflict between the taliban and u.s. forces because they just want them out of there. and i think over the years the taliban have learned not to stoke things too much if they want to take back power. they know that if they sort of got into a conflict with even one u.s. serviceman in afghanistan the u.s. would then have to flex its muscles and it would be messy there so i think the taliban are quite content to let the americans get out of there and then take full control of the country without getting into some sort of fighting match with u.s. troops