. >> ian bremmer reported that elon musk spok spoke to vladimi putin and it seemed that putin relayed what it would take to end the war in ukraine. musk has now denied this. said, i did talk to putin, but i talked to him 18 months ago, it was not about this, it was about space, and has come out and said, don't trust ian bremmer. there's sort of four doors, if you will, or options. one is that elon musk is actually talking to putin and is now lying about it. that's possible. the other is potentially that he lied to ian bremmer, maybe trying to show off about what was happening. the other possibility is ian bremmer is lying -- >> or got it wrong. >> i don't think that he has necessarily incentive to do that. and the fourth sort of, my good faith hypothesis, which i'm hoping is the case, is that somehow all got misunderstood and conflated. which is maybe that elon musk says to ian, you know, i talked to putin, maybe doesn't say when he talked to putin and continues on, and continues talking about ukraine as if it was all happening now. ian misunderstands it, and reports it as if it had j

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joining us is eurasia's ian bremmer.that president biden said he was disappointed about after he visited the country in fist bumped the crown prince in july what is happening here >> fist bumps not moving oil production, i'll tell you that the saudis, the russians, the emiratis and the rest of the opec plus countries are a supply cartel, and they are interested in higher prices in the context of lower demand, and that is, of course, what they're seeing given china's zero covid policies and reduced consumption as a consequence as well as expectations for significant recession coming up in europe. so i mean, they made that decision that decision was clearly not taken with any concern about how biden would react or the importance of the u.s. relationship i don't think it was meant to alienate him i think it was purely indifferent to the united states, and that says something to the u.s. about the saudi, and i think going forward, biden is going to be more cautious and more transactional in the relationship >> coincidence th

ian bremmer, who i mentioned, is a very credible and highly respected foreign affairs analyst. he is saying clearly and explicitly that elon musk told him that musk heard from vladimir putin directly. of course, putin is not talking to biden. it appears he's talking to elon musk. musk of course denies that this conversation happened now. but what is the view from russia on all of this? >> whether or not the conversation actually happened, and of course, as you said, elon musk has come out and said it didn't happen, that's not true. nevertheless, the peace proposal that caused such a splash a couple of weeks ago when elon musk put it out there on social media that with those four elements, the water supply, the ceding of crimea permanently to russia, the retractions of the referendum in donbas, that was received very well by the kremlin. and the kremlin went out of its way to praise that initiative, saying that elon musk is sort of coming up with ideas. one figure who's very close to vladimir putin, the former president of the country, president putin's longtime sidekick and pri

. >> are we not going to talk about this ian bremmer situation?derstand that. >> ian bremmer writes a note he does a newsletter every week, paid news letters to subs subscribers, elon told him he had talked to putin and they had -- he explained this whole sort of strategy about how to deal with ukraine and what would be needed to get to a settlement and whatnot, and he wrote that elon musk came back and said -- >> he said nobody should trust -- >> he didn't exactly say it was wrong. he said, don't trust bremer. first he said, i haven't talked to putin for 18 months which seemed to make it seem like he couldn't have said any of this and then bremer came back and said, elon told me this. i wrote this because elon told me this: and the elon responded to that and said, don't trust bremer so either -- there's like four options. either elon musk is -- he could be lying about that he did talk to putin when he says he didn't want to talk to putin. he could have lied to ian bremmer. that's possible. brehm mer could have lied. my good-faith view of this is

ian bremmer said he told him in conversation vladimir putin threatened to use nuclear weapons if ukraineinsula which served as the base for russia's naval forces on the black sea. he said that's what he told him, he tweeted out it's not, i've spoken to him only once, the subject matter was space. what they talked or not, do you know that and what about the star link uses or nonusage in ukraine? >> i think it is unusual, he got a lot of credit early on when he made that service available to the ukrainians. i worry at times whether he gets over his skis and thinks he can negotiate peace treaties with russia and ukraine, he has been weighing in on taiwan and china which very much worries me as well, he's very up on the communist party in china for production of his batteries all coming from coal-fired energy sources. not good news for any. but i want to get more information and my hope is i have more to say on this and it will be in conjunction with them and some of my republican colleagues. i worry folks may not have that much specific knowledge of what is really going on the ground trying

. >>> let's bring in the president and founder of the eurasia group, ian bremmer. >> in many cases, thesetransport. they're operational and running away. they're stealing local ukrainian cars to get out. they're leaving a lot of their colleagues behind. those who remain understand they're being left and the morale is abysmal. this is the reason why without a plan at all, putin decided to suddenly call up these 300,000 minimum troops in a mobilization and they're trying without any training and without adequate equipment to get them to the front lines as quickly as possible to start defending some of this territory. right now, the ukrainians are taking quite a bit back. >> well, obviously with no training, we heard maybe one-day training, no training for a lot of these troops, their situation is going to almost -- will very likely end up worse than what we've seen over the past six to nine months. i'm curious, look around the corner then, let's say the russian army continues its collapse, what's next? >> one of the reasons why the white house has been warning the russian government and put

about a proposed piece plan is deny that because the political scientist in bremmer who has often been a gesture on this program, ian has said that musk told him that he had spoken recently with pollutant and this has created a twitter storm when a show you this thread for me and bremer earlier today from the ranger group. he tweeted this a lot. musk told me that he had spoken with boot and, and the kremlin directly about ukraine. he also told me that the crib linds red lines are what they are these red lines for the criminal. he then tweeted again. i have been writing my weekly newsletter on geo politics for 24 years. i write honestly without fear or favor. and this week's update was no different followed by i've long admired mosque as a unique and world changing entrepreneur, which i've said publicly, he's not a geo politics expert. and then you had ellen musk himself weighing in, tweeting simply, nobody should trust bremar. now we brought this up because in a tweet just last week, musk laid out a ukraine rush, a piece plan that has the exact same terms as the one that bremar says. musk told him that he got from v