ian harper is one of austria's best-known economist and has been an rv a member since last may.elbourne and ask him if all strays quarter century without a recession was due to good design are just down to good luck. it has been in the exterior of good luck and good management. we have enormous resources in this country. our economic reform has been deliverinded, to enormous growth and progress. over time, that waxes and wanes and depends on the public mood. i emphasize that politics and economics go hand-in-hand. have thethat economist right to impose policy on the people. they need to be convinced that the policy is worth its costs and benefits. >> what is your take on the triple rating debate -- aaa rating debate? there seems to be an obsession holding onto it. his at preventing decisions from being made? >> i don't think the government is driven by the credit ratings. after all, it is the soften that makes his decisions based on what it considers best for the people, and it is not necessarily clear with the ratings agencies will do, how they will respond, so my view is it sh