on thursday night, ian paisley wanted his say.t you get up here as far as you could. we've done that. i remember storming the gates. i know the person who cut the chain. i saw what happened, it happened right in front of our eyes, and pushing the gates open and walking onto the estate, and marching up that hill. that mile became very short, powering our way up the hill. i was inside and i was watching - the news, and it was showing paisley so everybody pilled into the coffee lounge, the top floor, _ to look out. i remember a pile of dup members racing out and they started - to heckle him. ian, where are you going to take us?! indistinct yelling. ian: well, | wish i you would walk out! while some divisions were deepening, others were disappearing. there was a deal on the issue of the new regional parliament, a power—sharing assembly. there's a famous picture that was captured of you embracing a party colleague. that was when seamus mallon came down from the rooms where they were negotiating and told us they had made a breakthrough

on thursday night, ian paisley wanted his say.ou get up here as far as inaudible. we've done that. i remember storming the gates. i know the person who cut the chain. i saw what happened, it happened right in front of our eyes, and pushing the gates open and onto the estate, and marching up that hill. that mile became very short, powering away up the hill. i was inside and i was watching the news, and it was— sean paisley so everybody. pilled into the coffee lounge, the top floor, to look out. i remember a pile of pp members racing out and they started - to heckle him. ian, where are you going to take us?! indistinct yelling. ian: well, | wish i you would walk out! while some divisions were deepening others were disappearing. there was a deal on the issue of the new regional parliament, a power—sharing assembly. there is a famous picture that was captured of you embracing a party colleague. that was when seamus mallon came down from the rooms where we were negotiating and told us they had made a breakthrough on the assembly situat

ian paisley was a long time and strong leader of the democratic unionist party. they withdrew and opposed the agreement but they later reentered the process at crucial talks in st. andrews and thereafter participated actively in governance. doctor paisley served for several years as the first minister where he and martin mcginnis achieved some celebrity as the chuckles brothers. paisley was succeeded as the leader in first minister by peter robinson who had been a very effective negotiator while the du p was in the talks. with a, paisley and robinson were ably assisted in the talks by ian paisley junior. of the alliance party was led by doctor john. he and his colleagues were effective in the talks and he later served with distinction as the first speaker of the northern ireland assembly and his colleague also later served in the same room. the northern ireland women's party led by monica mcwilliams and pearl played a vital role as indeed did all of the women in all of the coalitions that stitched the threads of peace together. [applause] the loyalist parties wer

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the first time i felt that there was going to be a change in the air was when the reverend ian paisleywhipping up a crowd, firstly took a crowd up to karsten�*s statue at stormont, and he was barracked. they were calling in the grand on duke of york and they were asking where he was leading us. the short time after that, he staged a press conference with other dup members and loyalist paramilitaries were shouting from the crowd and they disrupted the press conference. at that moment, i felt that things might change, because the old orders were being challenged. marge. might change, because the old orders were being challenged.— were being challenged. mary, what about the moment _ were being challenged. mary, what about the moment that _ were being challenged. mary, what about the moment that you - were being challenged. mary, what about the moment that you saw . about the moment that you saw something through the windows? everyone did, and it was a moment that has been captured.— that has been captured. that's riuht. that has been captured. that's right- the _ that has been captured. t

christian: as you say, when you were there, you had to negotiate with reverend ian paisley, who couldquite feisty at times, maybe a lot stronger in tone than the current incumbent. i wonder what advice he would give to the current northern ireland secretary. seem to have a very difficult day yesterday. >> well, the advice i would give him, as i've been doing, as my predecessor as secretary of state from northern ireland, paul murphy, my friend who actually negotiated some of the detail of the good friday agreement under the then-secretary of state, he was part of the ceremony over the last few days, quite rightly so. what we said continuously is it is really important that the british prime minister, whoever that is, focuses on a northern ireland in a way sadly that david cameron didn't do, boris johnson certainly didn't do, theresa may didn't do, and that liz truss didn't do in her brief tenure. rishi sunak, to give him credit, has done that and getting the windsor framework. that is a big step forward from where we were, logjam with the distrust between london and dublin and brussel

ian paisley and martin mcguinness. the odd couple and politics produced a few years of on time budgets, agreed upon help when martin mcguinness in the first storm government where sheamus mellen represented they totally nonviolent. republican side. martin mcguinness was the education minister and stunned them. by first recommending increased funding for the poor schools. and the unionist community. and he proved that he would be fair. and i think that that triggered something. and everybody else, including eventually and paisley, and they wound up just working things out. look ah, i don't know any government where everybody agrees on everything. but if you can take these big divides and say we're ground 70% 80% of the things and we're going to do those things. i think that made a huge difference. so that's why all of us hope the government will come up against because it has worked when it's been up. what do you think? i mean, when you look at this blueprint, why do you think it hasn't worked elsewhere, for instance, l

forget the crucial work after 1998 to build a broader consensus helped by the leadership of doctor ian paisleyo the principles of democracy and non—violence, without which the talks could not have begun. and in the difficult final hours, president clinton�*s timely interventions helped get the deal done. and whenever people walked away, tony blair sought to bring them back, always committed, always attuned to the concerns of all parts of the community. together with bertie ahern, he showed us what is possible when the uk and irish governments work together, a partnership i know will continue alongside my friend, leo varadker. applause. and in the spirit of perseverance it is also fitting to recognise the contribution of the security forces. like my predecessors i acknowledge that at times they made mistakes, but we must also recognise their bravery, suffering and sacrifice and that of the police. without their courageous service, there would have been no peace process at all. they created the conditions that allowed their own presence on the streets to be reduced or entirely withdrawn. courage

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ian paisley and the homer— the late dr. ian paisley and the former hhh— the late dr.oing to get the stormont rxeewrhwe— not going to get the stormont executive back— not going to get the stormont executive back so— not going to get the stormont executive back so that the cohor— executive back so that the error rhe— executive back so that the carrot, the sweetener that can be carrot, the sweetener that can he weeh— carrot, the sweetener that can he weeh ro — carrot, the sweetener that can he weeh o per— carrot, the sweetener that can be used to get it— carrot, the sweetener that can be used to get it back is to arrow— be used to get it back is to ohhow rhe— be used to get it back is to allow the assembly to have ehehhrheohr— allow the assembly to have significant legislative powers to significant legislative powers ro ehohee— significant legislative powers ro ehohpe hr— significant legislative powers to change it where necessary . so to change it where necessary. so as to change it where necessary. so oe we per— to change it where necessary. so as we can get the— to ch

-- from london, i covered northern ireland years and years ago, before the good friday accords ian paisleyere was a lot of tension in belfast still. it wasn't active when i was covering it, but it was still will there what is the atmosphere like in belfast? then, between northern ireland and the republic of ireland? >> as you probably noticed, gene, in the last few months, the percentage of northern irish who are catholic has overtaken the percentage of northern irish who are protestant, and that is a demographic change if you look at the traditional protestant parparties, like the dup, refusing to take part in the good friday agreement, they're intransigence. they're the political arm of the 17th century but if you look at younger protestants and catholics, quite different attitude they like the freedoms they've grown up with. they like the fact that they can cross the border without being checked, without having machine gun military posts looking at them i think there is also a democratic change being driven by the young the good friday agreement is the guarantor of their futures there i

ian paisley and the former ira commander , martin former ira commander, martin mcguinness.ay. so goot tot— sallie. happy holy saturday. so good news for homeowners . “33. good news for homeowners. yes, it's good news for homeowners. yes, its very— good news for homeowners. yes, it's very promising. i— good news for homeowners. “33. . 33 “q i think it it's very promising. i think it shows that— it's very promising. i think it shows that the _ . 33 “q i think it shows that the underlying property— shows that the underlying property market is really tssiiisht. — property market is really resilient. _ property market is really resilient. you- property market is really resilient. /3- property market is really- resilient. you know, we're very lucky in that respect in this country. and some of the predictions that were made by economists and think tanks that the market would decrease . by the market would decrease. by anything between 5 and 12% this yearis anything between 5 and 12% this year is looking ing not totally unlikely , but less likely, which unlikely, but less likely, w

that is to say, the reverend ian paisley and the sinn fein leader martin mcguinness , who had been martinsame as for me. i was born not that long after the then the second world war. and as far as i didn't want to go around bashing up germans, i thought the oldies were silly for involved in the for getting involved in the thing and but of course with the older people . yeah, that that older people. yeah, that that those those hatreds and they go back right to the, the, the reformation of the english church back in tudor times those , those, those those residue those those hatreds and that that resentment does stick and that's what has to be overcome . that's what has to be overcome. um, and until until at the governance of northern ireland is sorted out and, and the, the ulster assembly is up and running again. there will be those tensions. there's no getting around it. it is a difficult time— getting around it. it is a difficult time ,- gill“ 2g 22 c it is a difficult time , especially at difficult time, especially at tne— difficult time, especially at the moment— difficult time, especia