those questions will not be answered by the federal criminal trial of ian rogers and jarrett kirkland indicted today, by a federal grand jury in california on federal charges. including that they quote, did knowingly conspire to destroy by fire or explosive a building -- to which, the john albertan democratic headquarters in sacramento, california. five days before president biden's eggnog ration, the fbi raided ian rogers home and business where they quote, recovered several guns and five pipe bombs. rodgers admitted making the pipe bombs for what he said was his own entertainment. the fbi found text messages on ian rogers phone, to and from his now cool defendant, gerald kirkland. we can attack twitter or the democrats. you pick. i think we can attack either, easily. let's go after soros we. can attack twitter and democrats, easy, right now. burn their crowd down. i want to blow up the democrat building bad. planned attack. i'm thinking sacramento office, first target. sack office is the sacramento office of the democratic party. the jury in this criminal trial will be able to tell

the fbi found text messages on ian rogers' phone to and from his now codefendant, jarrod copeland.. i think we can attack either easily. let's go after soros. we can attack twitter and democrats easy right now burn they're crap down. i want to blow up a democrat building bad. plan attack, i'm thinking sac office, first target. sac office, meaning sacramento office of the democratic party. the jury in this criminal trial will be able to tell us if rogers and copeland are guilty of conspiring to bomb the democratic party headquarters, but that jury will not be able to tell us why they wanted to do i. and that jury will not be able to tell us how many other trump supporters want to kill us, how many trump supporters want to kill the people working at twitter, how many trump supporters want to kill the people working at democratic party headquarters, how many trump supporters want to kill for donald trump. we don't know. we just know, according to their own words, on january 6th -- and the evidence in this california case, that the number of trump supporters who want to kill for donald

authorities already caught up to this man, ian rogers, from napa on january 15th.they searched his home and his business, british auto repair, where they seized a collection of guns, thousands of rounds of ammunition and five pipe bombs. the indictment describes how rogers communicated with 37-year-old jarrod copeland on multiple messaging platforms. authorities say rogers wrote i want to blow up a democrat building bad. copeland responding, i agree, plan attack. >> the rhetoric that he's espousing on his chat that, you know, talked about all the hate and discontent he had for if, you know, if trump didn't win the election. i mean, those kind of things, people take that real seriously today. >> reporter: kpix security analyst and former fbi agent jeff hart believes someone on the inside came forward to authorities. >> these domestic terrorism cases are usually initiated by an undercover operation or an informant or somebody tipping somebody off. >> reporter: dojha rs to copelandfter we go to war. the 20th was inauguration day as president joe biden took over the wh

dodged another metaphorical bullet through a federal indictment of two california trump supporters, ian rogers and jared copeland. according to the indictment, prompted by the outcome of the 2020 presidential election, rogers and copeland began to plan an attack against a target or targets these associated with democrats. by november 29th, 2020, they had identified the democratic headquarters in sacramento, california, as their first target and made plans to attack it using incendiary devices. rogers and copeland believed the attacks would start what they called a movement. but here is the thing. these guys were not idly fantasizing. according to the indictment, again, copeland told rogers he had contacted an anti-government militia group to attempt to gather support for their movement. on january 11, 2021, five days after the attack on the capitol, rogers told copeland, i want to blow up a democrat building bad. rogers said, let's see what happens after the 20th. of course, the day of president biden's inauguration. we go to war. according to his criminal complaint, rogers added, quote, i hop

federal prosecutors say napa resident ian rogers and jared copeland of vallejo had hoped the bombing would be the first in a series of politically motivated attacks. both men face multiple charges, including conspiracy to destroy by fire, or explosive, a building. rogers is also charged with unregistered destructive vices and three counts of possession of machine guns. in january law enforcement officers searched rogers home and seized 55 rooms, thousands of rounds of ammunition's and three pipe bombs. >>> authorities believe they ever did another mass shooting after they arrested a suspected prowler. 32-year-old wesley charlie martinez was taken into custody friday after a campbell business owner reported someone lurking around her parking lot, peering into cars. the business owner shared surveillance video with abc7 news. police detained martinez and found an arsenal of weapons inside his truck including a pipe bomb, two illegal ar- 15 style rifle, and a manifesto which stated a desire to wipe out the black, hispanic and jewish populations. >> a lot of bad things could have happene

federal prosecutors say napa resident ian rogers and jared copeland of vallejo had hoped the bombingld be the first in a series of politically motivated attacks. both men face multiple charges, including conspiracy to destroy by fire, or explosive, a building. rogers is also charged with unregistered destructive vices and three counts of possession of machine guns. in january law enforcement officers searched rogers home and seized 55 rooms, thousands of rounds of ammunition's and three pipe bombs. >>> authorities believe they ever did another mass shooting after they arrested a suspected prowler. 32-year-old wesley charlie martinez was taken into custody friday after a campbell business owner reported someone lurking around her parking lot, peering into cars. the business owner shared surveillance video with abc7 news. police detained martinez and found an arsenal of weapons inside his truck including a pipe bomb, two illegal ar- 15 style rifle, and a manifesto which stated a desire to wipe out the black, hispanic and jewish populations. >> a lot of bad things could have happened. t

now, the two men, 45-year-old ian rogers, is of napa, and 37-year-old jared copeland of vallejo, are be behind the plan. now, copeland was arrested in sacramento on wednesday. rogers was arrested back in january. so according to prosecutors the plan was to fire bomb the john l. burton headquarters with the hopes that that explosion would begin some type of a movement. prosecutors say the pair used multiple messaging platforms to discuss the

now, the two men, 45-year-old ian rogers is of napa and 37-year-old jared copeland of vallejo, are saidhind the plan. now, copeland was arrested in sacramento on wednesday. rogers was plan was to fire bomb the john l. burton headquarters was the hopes the explosion would be the beginning of some type of movement. prosecutors say the pair used multiple messaging platforms to discuss their plans and at one point copeland messaged rogers say he contacted an anti-government militia group to gather support. this arrest signalled a greater issue. >> these are all symptoms of a larger issue, and that is our society and this separatism. even now, you know, i again thank the fbi for their work, but in this day and age, you know, we should not be concerned about violence and terrorism just for participating in the democratic process. >> reporter: rogers and copeland are both being charged with conspiracy to destroy by fire or explosives in a building. rogers is charged with an additional weapons violation. if convicted both men face 20 years in prison and both of those bay area men are scheduled

copeland and ian rogers of napa are accused of hatching a bomb plan. if convicted they could face 20 years in prison. >>> to our climate in crisis as more water restrictions are coming to the north bay. people who live in napa will have to cut their water use back. the city council approved new rules asking people to reduce their water usage by 20%. they also limit how much water is trucked out of the city and limits irrigation two days a week. the move is to reduce the strain on napa's primary source of n learn steps to conserve water. eb mud is holding a speaker series that starts at 6:00 p.m. east bay mud asked customers to cut their water use by 10%. >>> maybe a quick shower before you head out the door, but what do you wear? >> it's going to be nice today and, of course, as we think about how long to take a shower, make it snappy because let me show you the reservoir levels. we are seeing our levels continue to drop and we know we're heading into a very dry summer after not getting enough rain, so in the north bay reservoir levels that are about 4

back in january our investigative unit first reported on the arrest of one of the suspects, ian rogers from napa. at the time the authorities only mentioned the explosive devices they say were recovered at his home and business. the other suspect, jerard copeland, is from vallejo. after the election last fall the two hatched a plan to blow up the headquarters, hoping the bomb would be the first in a series of attack starting a movement. all of it a huge shock to democratic party leaders. >> in this day and age, you know, we should not be concerned about violence and terrorism just for participating in the democratic process. >> the fair face mult charges. if convicted they could face 20 years in prison. >>> we are getting a new perspective on the surge of deadly gun violence across the bay area's three major cities. overall killings are up compared with last year. digging deeper, look at the numbers from "the chronicle." they show homicides in oakland, san jose and san francisco within the first six months of each other from 2018 through 2021. all have seen increases this year. oakland

. >> reporter: federal prosecutors say 45-year-old ian rogers and 47-year-old jared copeland started plotting an attack on targets they associated with democrats after the 2020 presidential ngto spar overthrow the government. early monday morning, sandy saw 14 cop cars outside her apartment and she saw her neighbor get arrested. >> and by 6:30, they all converged on that apartment. >> reporter: investigators left with dozens of boxes of evidence. we check in with john summer camp, former special agent with the fbi, on what's the risk to the public now? >> people are rattled by this. what's the threat for more terror attacks here at home? >> i guess you could say it's probably elevated. based on the last year and what we've seen politically and across the country. it seems that people are more divided, writes, on the left and the right, and very extreme on the left and on the right, and it's forcing some groups, as you see these militia groups for example, to try to form and >> m perln reporting. >>> still ahead on kpix 5, streaming on cbsn bay area, former 49er and stanford star rich

with planning to attack democratic headquarters in sacramento court documents say napa resident ian rogers and resident jarrett copeland started making their plans after the 2020 election. according to the indictment they were planning to use explosives to carry out the attack and hope the attack would spark a movement. law enforcement search rogers home and found dozens of guns. thousands of rounds of ammo and 5 pipe bombs. both men face up to 20 years in prison. it's a big story we're following this morning major wildfires burning all across the west coast flames from the dixie fire are creeping along the burn scars of the disasters camp fire devastated the town of paradise back in 2018 and it is just one of dozens of wildfires burning up and down the west coast. the fires have been fully and fueled by extreme drought. we're experiencing also triple-digit temperatures and experts say things will get better anytime soon. nancy loo has that story. >> the massive plume from the dixie fire in butte county leaves no doubt that the firefight is a big one. it is mainly an air attack due to very

. >> reporter: the two men, ian rogers and jared copeland believe trump won the 2020 election.he indictment says text messages from rogers' phone reveal his intent to attack democrats and places associated with democrats in an effort to ensure trump remain in the office. on january 11th, rogers allegedly texting, i want to blow up a democrat building bad. copeland allegedly responding, i agree. plan attack. investigators say rogers had this -- a white privilege card. on it, trumps everything with the number 45 repeated, references, they say, to the former president. prosecutors insist it was not just talk. that a january raid on rogers' home and business uncovered five pipe bombs and a human cache of weapons including rifles and a machine gun, and they were allegedly ready to fight alongside the president. rogers texting, i hope 45 goes to war. if he doesn't, i will. david, a federal prosecutor says the men remain a threat. they're still in custody. copeland today pled not guilty. >> pierre thomas tonight. pierre, thank you. >>> new numbers tonight on the number of migrants arr

back in january our investigative unit first reported on one of those arrests, the suspect there ian rogers from napa. now, at the time authorities only mentioned the explosive devices they say were recovered at his home and business. the other suspect, jarrod copeland is from vallejo, and investigators are now saying that after the presidential election last fall, the two hatched a plan to blow up the john l. burton headquarters hoping the bombing would be the first in a series of attacks starting a movement. >> in this day and age, we should not be concerned about violence and terrorism just for participating in the democratic process. >> reporter: the pair copeland and rogers face multiple charges. if convicted they could face 20 years in prison. >>> well, the white house warned american businesses this morning, be careful in hong kong. executives are subject to arrest, their corporate data subject to seizure. scott mcgrew, these are very serious warnings. >> extremely serious. good morning, marcus. what's going on in hong kong is very serious as well. hong kong is supposed to be a speci

according to court documents, 45-year-old ian rogers from napa and jared copeland from vallejo started planning attacks on targets they associated with democrats in the wake of the 2020 election. the two men communicated on multiple messaging platforms. >> the rhetoric that he is espousing on his chat, talked about all of the hate and discontent he had for if trump didn't win the election, those kind of things, people take that seriously today. >> investigators say after rogers was arrested, copeland reached out to a leader of a militia group and was told to delete all communication. >>> time now is 5:09. devastating and deadly flooding hitting europe, how president biden is responding. >>> ahead on kpix 5 and streaming on cbsn bay area, mandatory evacuations underway over the massive fire burning near butte county. will the town of paradise be safe? >>> looking at the scene that led to the arrest of a former 49er, the surveillance video of richard sherman. >>> and tracking this ridge of my pressure in the desert southwest. that will warm us up for the next several days. there is a cha

according to court documents, 45-year-old ian rogers from napa and 37-year-old vallejo resident jaredarted planning their attacks on targets they associated with democrats. the two men communicated on multiple messaging platforms. >> the rhetoric he is espousing in the chat, talked about all of the hate and discontent he had if trump didn't wib win the election, those things, people take those things seriously these days. >> after rogers was arrested, copeland reached out to a leader of a militia group and was told to delete all communication. >>> a look at where san franciscoers could makemme fer. $5 million has been allocated to build a ferry terminal. this little known port is under going a dramatic change and turning into what officials hopn weather and traffic beginning with mary lee. it's friday. >> it is finally friday. i love it when we make it to the end of the work week. we are looking at a bit of a warm up for today into the weekend. i will talk about this in a moment. if you are getting ready to head out the door, take a look at the mount hamilton camera, something to make

that is fbi special agent john blair talking about ian rogers of napa shown here and jerry copeland of lego. the 2 now indicted for planning to attack targets today associated with democrats. >> following the presidential election. >> we're going to use explosives. to commit an act of violence motivated by their disappointment election. specifically asian blair says they focused on the democratic headquarters in sacramento in a recorded conversation on january 11th 2021. >> agents say rogers told copeland, quote, i want to blow up a democrat building. bad unquote. agents say they also agreed a quote. let's see what happens after the 20th. we go to war, unquote. that reference relating to the inauguration of joe biden after congress certified the vote and those riots on capitol hill back in january agents. quickly closed in rogers in napa raiding his home finding guns and a card that said white privilege. we seized between 4550 firearms. >> 3 of which were fully automatic automatic firearms. along with 5 pipe bombs. >> officials say copeland learned of rogers arrest and destroyed eviden

court documents say napa resident ian rogers and the late president gerald. >> copeland started making their plans after the 2020 election. according to the indictment. >> they were planning to use explosives to carry out the attack and hoped that the attack was sparked a movement law enforcement search rogers home and found dozens of guns. thousands of rounds of ammunition and 5 pipe bombs both men face up to 20 years in prison. in the east bay. you can add to that home depot in hercules to the growing list of retailers being hit by shoplifters. sometimes. >> over and over there's been a rash of incidents in the bay area. investigators say in some cases thieves loaded up shopping carts with tools and just walked out the door. they're now working with bay area. law enforcement in the hopes of tracking down suspects. we've had 3. >> deaths that have been reported to us just in the last couple of weeks about 15 deaths there since the first of the year. different things are happening particularly home people sometimes think they will still the item directly putting under a coat just putti

that is fbi special agent john blair talking about ian rogers of napa shown here and jerry copeland ofhe 2 now indicted for planning to attack targets today associated with democrats. >> following the presidential election. >> we're going to use explosives. to commit an act of violence motivated by their disappointing election, specifically asian blair says they focused on the democratic headquarters in sacramento. >> in a recorded conversation on january 11 to 2021 agents say rogers told copeland, quote, i want to blow up a democrat building. bad unquote. agents say they also agreed a quote. let's see what happens after the 20th. we go to war, unquote. that reference relating to the inauguration of joe biden after congress certified the vote and those riots on capitol hill back in january agents. quickly closed in rogers in napa raiding his home finding guns and a card that said white privilege. we seized between 4550 firearms. >> 3 of which were fully automatic automatic firearms. along with 5 pipe bombs. >> officials say copeland learned of rogers arrest and destroyed evidence. prin

that is fbi special agent john blair talking about ian rogers of napa shown here and jerry copeland ofo. the 2 now indicted for planning to attack targets today associated with democrats. >> following the presidential election. >> we're going to use explosives. to commit an act of violence motivated by their disappointment election, specifically asian blair says they focused on the democratic headquarters in sacramento. >> in a recorded conversation on january 11th 2021 agents say rogers told copeland, quote, i want to blow up a democrat building. bad unquote. agents say they also agreed a quote. let's see what happens after the 20th. we go to war, unquote. that reference relating to the inauguration of joe biden after congress certified the vote and those riots on capitol hill back in january agents. quickly closed in rogers in napa raiding his home finding guns and a card that said white privilege. we seized between 4550 firearms. >> 3 of which were fully automatic automatic firearms. along with 5 pipe bombs. >> officials say copeland learned of rogers arrest and destroyed evidence.

documents say that napa resident ian rogers and resident journey. copeland began making plans after the 2020 election. they are accused of planning to use explosives to carry out the attack. they hoped apparently that the attack would spark a movement. officers who searched rogers home found dozens of guns. thousands of rounds of ammunition. 5 pipe bombs. both men face up to 20 years in prison. san francisco police have arrested a man seen on surveillance video robbing a store on 5th street near folsom. this was the this is the south of market neighborhood happened monday. police say the suspect is 38 year-old craig smith of oakland. the cashier told police that a man walked into the store, pointed a gun and demanded money. police say after arresting smith, they also found a ghost gun which is an untraceable firearms. police say this is an active investigation. they're asking anyone with information to call san francisco police. >> so up to it on the hollywood walk of fame today. deadly gun fire breaking out at that popular tourist spot sending peop

the plot became public in january, after one of the men named ian rogers, was arrested, police foundat the time he never intended to do anything serious with them, he had them only for entertainment purposes but the fbi found conversations of him with another man in which they talked about attacking the democratic headquarters building in sacramento, and possibly the offices of facebook and twitter, for the fact that they had blocked president trump. now we know the second man with whom he has was communicating, that's what's new here, a man named jared copeland, and the government last night asked a federal judge in california to keep copeland in detention, while they're awaiting trial, while the court document says he and rogers were "animated by the kind of anger that will not be abated or deterred by a court order. all the political and social conditions that motivated the plan, what they planned to do as described as terrorist attacks remain." so now we have the second part of this puzzle, both of them now are awaiting trial on these charges that they had, what the government sa

he and ian rogers are accused of hatching a plan.onvicted they could face 20 years in prison. >>> now to our climate in crisis, as more water restrictions come to the north bay, people who live in napa will have to cut their water use. the council, the city council, they just approved new rules asking people to reduce their water usage by 20%. they limit how much water is trucked out of the city and limits irrigation to two days a week and the move is to reduce the strain on napa's primary source of water, lake hennessey. >>> in the east bay, customers can learn simple steps they can take to conserve water. east bay mud is holding its water wednesday speaker series that starts at 6:00. east bay mud asked customers to voluntarily cut their water use by 10%. you can get tips on how to do it. >> get outside and enjoy the time because the weather has been nice. >> it has been nice. >> enjoy it. >> you know what, we've all been trying to give you tips on how to conserve water and how to also help us out because we know that our reservoir

federal prosecutors say napa resident ian rogers who you see, and jared copeland hoped the bombing would be the first in series of politically motivated attacks. both men face multiple charges now including conspiracy to destroy a building, by fire or explosive. rogers is also now charged with possession of unregistered destructive devices and three counts of possession of machine guns. back in january, law enforcement officers searched his home in napa and seized 45 to 50 firearms. thousands of rounds of ammunition, and five pipe bombs. rogers has been in custody since then. >>> new details in the south bay authorities believe they have averted another mass shooting after the arrest of a suspected prowler. 32-year-old wesley charles martinees from los gatos was taken into custody. it comes after a campbell business owner reported someone lushing around the parking lot peering into cars. that business owner shared surveillance video of the incident with abc7 news. police detained martinees and found an arsenal of weapons inside his truck. that includes a pipe bomb, two illegal ar style r

blow up several buildings following president biden's election victory, according to documents, ian rogers of napa shown here and another man, jared copeland, valeo began planning attacks back in november. the men allegedly planned to attack the john l. burton democratic headquarters in sacramento, along with the twitter and facebook headquarters. in january, authorities seized dozens of guns, including automatic weapons, ammunition and five pipe bombs from rogers home. copeland was arrested on wednesday. both men are facing several years in prison. and this just into our newsroom, a federal judge in texas has ruled that the government must stop processing new applications for daca. obama era policy protects people brought into the united states as children from being deported texas and eight other states sued to halt the program, saying it violates the constitution. however the ruling this afternoon will not end protections for the estimated 650,000 people who are already enrolled. still ahead at four the oakland coliseum authority met today up next. the decision about a new stadium for t

documents say that napa resident ian rogers in vallejo resident jared copeland started making their plans. according to the indictment they were planning to use explosives to carry out the attack and hope that it would spark a movement law enforcement, search rogers home and say they found dozens of guns, thousands of rounds of ammo and 5 pipe bombs both men now face up to 20 years in prison if convicted. we have an update on a story we brought you earlier this week as san jose employee who worked with children has been fired. now after he was accused of trying to meet up with a minor 53 year-old carl oosterman was the director of education at the nonprofit kiryat to see which is an outdoor zoo and museum and sam a tail a california group called the c c unit says that members caught and planning to meet with a 14 year-old boy that he met online. but the person that met turned out to be the person with a vigilante group and behind the camera here, members of the group of them posing as minors on line since 2018 to catch suspects on video. san jose police say they are investigating. muni of

conspiracy to blow up several buildings following president biden's victory, according to documents ian rogersnapa pictured here and another man, jared copeland of vallejo, began planning attacks in november. the man allegedly planned to attack the john l burden democratic headquarters in sacramento, along with the twitter and facebook headquarters. in january, authorities seized dozens of guns, including automatic weapons, ammunition and five pipe bombs from rogers home. copeland was arrested on wednesday. the men face several years in prison. well i have to protect my son's right to an education and also his safety. coming up on ktvu news at 6 30, a legal battle between a family and a barrier school district. why they say their son should be allowed to go mask lists at school player in sports trade rumors swirling regarding oakland's own damian lillard, jason appelbaum on what the nbc per star has to say. and at first today is the last day for candidates to enter the california recall election. how people in san francisco are showing their support for governor newsom. plus why caitlyn jenner

copeland and ian rogers of napa are accused of hatching a bombing plan hoping it would be the first in a movement. if convicted they could face 20 years in prison. >>> new this morning, san francisco is expanding its mental health services. according to "the chronicle" paramedics can decide if a person should be held for up to 72 hours if they believe they're danger to themselves or others. before, only police officers and doctors could order a hold. the san francisco fire department says between july of 2019 and june of 2020 police initiated around 8 holds a day. >>> no surprise here for homeowners trying to make it in the bay. buying a home could come at a hefty price tag. according to retailor.com, one east bay city sells the most for a home over the asking price. berkeley taking that top spot. the report says that city has seen a nearly 20% increase for over bidding. some of the homes asked for over a million dollars but potential homeowners will offer double that to snag the house. in alameda county home sales have climbed 20% in 2021. >> it's a pretty t weather high rent because

federal authorities say ian rogers and jarrod copeland planned to use machine guns and explosives topire militia groups and start a movement. the fbi is getting praise for stopping the plot. >> again, thank you the fbi for their work. but in this day and age, you know, we should not be concerned about violence and terrorism just for participating in a democratic process. >> this comes as we're learning about new developments in the investigation into the january 6th attack on the capitol. newly approved house spending bills are full of changes inspired by the attack, just two days before the biggest hearing of the insurrection we may be getting new insight into how the rest of the investigation could play out. nbc's scott mcfarland joins us from d.c. scott, i understand you have new reporting on the house spending bills. what can you tell us? >> hey, joe. good afternoon. this is the time of year, july, when the u.s. house typically approves spending bills to fund the government for the next year, in this case 2022. as we read through the hundreds of pages in the bill this weekend we

ian rogers of napa pictured here and another man, jared copeland of vallejo, began planning attacks in november. the men allegedly planned to attack the john l. burton democratic headquarters in sacramento, along with the twitter and facebook headquarters in january, authorities dozens of guns, including automatic weapons, ammunition and five pipe bombs from rogers home. copeland was arrested on wednesday. they both are facing several years in prison. police say a man in santa clara shot another man who was trying to break into his home early sunday. police got a call about a man prowling in someone's backyard. when they arrived, they learned someone in the home shot the suspected prowler. the resident says the man broke a window and then kicked open the back door, which prompted the homeowner to shoot. police say the suspect is spencer olson. the 26 year old was taken to the hospital and was arrested for burglary. former niner. richard sherman faced a judge today. he's charged with several crimes after a confrontation at his in law's home. what he's saying about those charges. barrier

court documents say napa resident ian rogers and vallejo resident jerry copeland started making their the 2020 election. according to the indictment they were planning to use explosives to carry out an attack and they hope that that would spark a movement law enforcement, search rogers home and they say they found dozens of guns, thousands of rounds of ammo and 5 pipe bombs. both men now face up to 20 years in prison if they are convicted. >> now let's get you caught up on the latest with former 40 niner and stanford alum richard sherman, we know that he's been released from jail now without bail. but we'll have to abide by some pretty strict condition and the charges were downgraded a washington state judge ordered sherman cannot drink alcohol possess any firearms. >> or have any contact with his father in law. police arrested him at the home of the father-in-law early wednesday morning and all followed a 911. call. sherman's wife. >> made telling dispatchers that he was threatening to hurt himself. this was at their home earlier in the morning. police believe that sherman then drove

ian benjamin rogers and jared copeland were propertied by the outcome of the 2020 presidential election. they believed their attack would spark a movement, according to federal prosecutors who said the men were members of a militia group. you know law enforcement officers seized five pipe bombs. thousands of rounds of ammunition, between 45 and 50 firearms, at least three fully automatic weapons during this january search of rogers' home and business. i'm curious your reaction to that as a california democrat, as a member of the homeland security committee and as somebody who has tried to do anything he could to try to quell the gun violence in this country by common sense gun rules being stepped up. does this prove the type of violence and danger we saw in january 6th was not a one-time thing? >> we are just as vulnerable today, alex, as we were on january 6th. my fear is there will be more loss of life as long as the following ingredients still exist. you have donald trump and kevin mccarthy advancing the big lie. you have a country where we have unrestricted weaponry, and you have la

that is fbi special agent john blair talking about ian rogers of napa shown here and jerry copeland ofets today associated with democrats. >> following the presidential election. >> we're going to use explosives. to commit an act of violence motivated by their disappointment election, specifically asian blair says they focused on the democratic headquarters in sacramento. >> in a recorded conversation on january 11th 2021 agents say rogers told copeland, quote, i want to blow up a democrat building. bad unquote. agents say they also agreed a quote. let's see what happens after the 20th. we go to war, unquote. that reference relating to the inauguration of joe biden after congress certified the vote and those riots on capitol hill back in january agents. quickly closed in rogers in napa raiding his home finding guns and a car that said white privilege. we seized between 4550 firearms. >> 3 of which were fully automatic automatic firearms. along with 5 pipe bombs. >> officials say copeland learned of rogers arrest and destroyed evidence. prince directions from a militia group had contact