now, i want to bring in the author of cryptocurrency investing for dummies, kiana daniel, and k iana,ust on this whole thing. i mean, this digital art, 2.4 million in bid right now, a piece that went for 6.6 million recently. just the way that it's sweeping the world and to joseph's point, you know, large institutions are paying attention. i thought what he said about the trust factor was important too. >> no, absolutely. so i think this is just showcas ing the power of the blockchain technology. bitcoin was just one of the side effects of blockchain, that was just in vented to show you what blockchain technology can do, and now, people like mark cuban showing that the industry has really reached a much higher public acceptance and personally , i think the nft side of it is a little bit more personal, but i'm very happy to see that cryptocurrency has come along this way. actually, if you think about it, in a very short period of time. charles: yeah, no you're absolutely right. in the meantime though it hasn't been a smooth ride, right? we see bitcoin under pressure again and a lot of