the setup was that roy brewer, who was the head of the iatse union - i'm sorry to say that -- was thetagehands' union. i'd like to say good things about unions, but they get bureaucratized, and they go right-wing, you know? they get bad. this was a bad leader, and he terrorized all of the jewish moguls who were being accused of communism by the house un- american activities committee, and they yielded to whatever he said to them, out of fear that they would get branded as communists or that they'd boycott the film, alright? and so, when, you know, they called yip in to do huckleberry finn with burt lane, then roy and the guys said, "no, he's on our blacklist, ok? and you can't hire him." and then yip went away. and they wanted him to work on dr. doolittle. "no, you can't hire him." and the same thing for radio and tv. and that was known as a, quote, "blacklist," which wasn't -- that wasn't the first use of the term, because in small towns we had company corporations going, if you did something that the company didn't like, you were blacklisted from town. you couldn't get a job in town