ibc accounts for only about 1% to 5% of all breast cancers in the u.s.n under 40 and may be difficult to spot on a mammogram. >> inflammatory breast cancer basically presents with redness of the breast and it's swollen actually. there's four stages in breast cancer so ibc diagnosis automatically categorizes it as three. one-third will have stage 4 so it is fairly advanced at the time of diagnosis. >> it is truly an aggressive cancer. >> yes, but we could do something about it. you just have to work with the right specialist and there's always a great chance to help. >> reporter: that help often starts with this woman, terry arnold who created the ibc network foundation 11 years ago after she experienced months of misdiagnoses. >> i wanted to learn because there was this void. >> reporter: terry's mission to help fund ibc research and give more women support and resources. >> we need to share our stories, we also need to encourage proper treatment, diagnosis tools so it isn't such a scary thing and we can have more successes. >> reporter: katrice says she

>> the apple and ibc question because ibc collects data largely submitted by pcoems. does not participate in sharing its data with services like ibc or gartner and historically, ibc and gartner's track record for predicting apple on quarterly basis has not been great certainly the numbers look very good i would be cautious about extrapolating them. >> got it. >> to your question about broader tech, look, we think, you know, tech is fairly to slightly overvalued. we're not particularly bullish on tech. we are worried we may have earnings estimates go down and there may be more downside to the market and as a result, we prefer really inexpensive, more defensive technology names companies that i follow like dell and hewlett-packard enterprise that are trading at literally 5 to 7 times earnings, we think have relatively less downside in the near to medium term and so that defensive posturing leads us to those names. >> got it. tony, thank you. good to check in with you. tony sacconaghi. appreciate it from bernstein. >>> take a look at where we stand right now in the marke

a challenging time for the overall pc market, shipments down 15% in the third quarter according to ibcicrosoft going to navigate the current market? joining us microsoft corporate vice president of modern life. search in there, devices, lots of stuff stuff that people use. let's get into surface particularly the surface pro 9 interesting you got all intel across the line in a time when amd is surging we will talk about that later. but arm when it comes to 5g. what's the progress on arm, especially as we see apple with the m 1 and m2 gaining a lot of share in pc? >> yeah, john, thanks for being here opportunity to talk to you about it with the new surface devices we are excited of continuing the plan we have been on, to offer different chase with silicon and push in different areas. intel has given us a powerful platform the surface pro 9 are 50% more powerful than the predecessors also on pro 9 we are offering the s q3 chip. that lets us put npu chips on there that use the power in the cloud do advanced a.i. things. if you are doing a video call, you can keep eye contact as you move ar