barack obama has those black shiny shoes. >> does he? you seen him with them on? >> what are you doing? are you doing some work? >> ibmack obama. >> why do you think that? you look a little bit like him in that suit. >> i feel a lot like him. >> okay. c-span: that part of it is just kind of a sidebar but what do you see the connection between this young fellow and barack obama? >> guest: i think it's obama's presence in the film and then harlem is sort of understated and tell what moment, but it's very important. i think he's a really important person for these kids to read and to see his picture in the classrooms and the parents, you know, have his calendar is in their apartment, and so, you know, this bragg jr. would dress up as him sometimes and go to school. what is barack obama's position on charter schools? >> guest: he is pro school choice. the race to the top fund is a really historic stance on the need for more options for parents come and that includes charter schools, he's very positive in that regard. c-span: at the end of this and we will not show it because it gives away what happens in the lottery itsel