you heard ibrahim kalin.nd you heard him say i think what the americans could could is first of all you know clear up all the weapons. and stop those groups having access to them. is that likely? >> well, i don't think so. not in the near term, christiane. for two reasons. the first of all the weapon provided to kurdish fighters -- not just kurds, syrian the democratic forces they are small weapons and munition that is kind of thing. number two, the fight against isis and syria in syria is still very much alive .the spokeman was wrong when he said ice sis eliminated in syria. nobody said that. certainly not that administration and not the military. there is pockets of isis groups inside syria mostly in the middle of the country and to the south of the area. but they are there. we need to partner with syrian democratic forces on the ground to go after the rest ofceness syria. >> what can you do to ally the tub irk fierce? you heard what ash carter said the defense secretary there with president obama while you

says killed six people earlier we spoke to turkey's presidential spokesman ibrahim kalin and he says maximum care is being taken to avoid civilian casualties while we exercise extreme care as we have done with the first to shield operation of one of the reasons why the freights of shield operation here and a half ago took longer than planned was the care that our military took in dealing with the situation on the ground and to avoid any kind of civilian casualties we are doing exactly the same thing we are coordinating everything that the local people do including the free syrian army on the ground as well as the residents of a free and who do not subscribe to the marxist leninist ideology of p.k. k p y d y p g in fact they've been raising this issue for a number of months in fact years now that they do not want to see people argue why fiji flag because they have no legitimacy in terms of representing the kurds of free in or syria all right stephanie decker joining us now live from an attack on your turkey's border with syria we'll talk about often in a moment stephanie but first tel

speaking to the bbc‘s selin gerit, the turkish presidential spokesperson — ibrahim kalin — defended turkey'sllies in nato. what we would like to see is for the united states to stop supporting people and white pg. is turkey moving away from natal and the western alliance? sometimes our public fears that natal is not paying enough attention to turkey's legitimate security concerns. the city in war has entered its seventh year, we have had many casualties, we have fought against the daesh terrorists and pkk terrorists and other organisations and we have received very little help from natal and our public and people keep asking us, where as nato? but that does not mean that we are running away from nato or nato was away from turkey, . .. the away from nato or nato was away from turkey,... the united away from nato or nato was away from turkey, . .. the united states away from nato or nato was away from turkey,... the united states has backed the white pg and the turkish government sees it as an extension of the kurdish separatists in turkey, the pkk. do not forget that the americans and brits h