we know that they now have missiles and probably an ic bm that will eventually be able to hit the u.ssort of prevent them from trading anything with anybod in any kind of currency at all. would that be against your free trade policies? >> well, i don't think it makes any difference. north korea is an unfree economically basket-cased state. what would they have to trade in the first place. david: but they have been that, john, for 40 years or more, and they still survive. sometimes you can survive just by the power of a dictatorship by the brutality of a dictatorship, even if it's against free market policies. >> yeah. well, see, that, to me, would be all the more reason to have open trading relations because if people get a taste of something, they logically want more. david: every time we open up with them, they just use that occasion to crack down harder on dissidents with their their borders. >> yeah. this is an area where i very much agree with trump. i just don't think this is our fight. they've got an ibm. what are the odds it could hit us? maybe it could. david: i don't want to