icahn sold to american airlines for $400 million. he could -- if they never have acquired that in the public market. this is public convenience and necessity and not for the personal enrichment of the carriers. america made that money back in about a year. but st. louis lost its connection to the world beyond. an awful lot of people lost their jobs in the process. ultimately twa, one of the great, proud carriers of decades past, was absorbed by american, and now hasted of that -- that o'hare for service. that is the encapsulated summary of mergers and vagueness. too big to fail -- united- continental, one of our witnesses just said, would control 20% of the domestic share, $115 billion of a rigid 115 billion available seat miles. that is enormous capacity patrol. -- control. i asked yesterday, and mr. forbes may recall this, why would anyone on any carrier spend $150 million on a 747, went for $50 million you can buy an entire fleet? >> opt-in carolyn -- into an airline in equity and turned it back. 180 degrees. less than $1 billion