those are two different conversation. icam is about the domain name and addresses. yes, there have been many calls to internationalize an internate clear about that. we all support this move to internationalization of icam. >> do you think what the e.u. is proposing is the right way to go about it? >> indeed, they ar there have by strong messages from the european europe for the clean move for this model. that is a clear and positive move towards what we call inter government. i believe everybody has in mind such a model should apply, and there has been progress in this way. >> i suppose the question is you're talking about internet control dilution, is there a risk if it moves away from the u.s. i'm thinking of russia and china where there is control of the internet. >> european commission doesn't advocate for multi lateral process when it's about inter governance. we believe that it is not the right solution. the internet is so important that it should be run meaning that many stake holders are in play in this role being businesses, society, and government on equa

. >> finally, we taped an interview on this program with the head of icam, the internet board. and he talked about -- he's pushing for a loosening of the u.s. stewardship of the internet and making it a more international stakeholder management board. do you have any initial thoughts -- thoughts on that? >> i don't know what the specifics are in terms of that principle that he has put out there so i can't do a deep dive on it. the k that we know, as country that moatered this, that gave birth to it and how it has operated, that i certainly have a vision of how that needs to be retained. but i'm always open to robust kids of how to improve that. as long as it's not diminished. as long as it's not diminished. and many countries around the world have a different view. you know, they want to really regulate the internet, and from societies that are not open democratic societies and i don't want to discover what may be sitting on the table. >> the ranking member of the energy and commerce subcommittee. >> c-span. created by america's cable companies 35 years ago and brought to