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some of them couldn't make it and we talked for three days about the post-icef environment.have gained so much over the last 10 years of combat where we have been training towards something. it's like training for a race. you're motivated if you have to, if you know at the end of this month you're going to do a 10k you know you have to get up every day to run. when you have that kind of motivation in your future in knowing you're going to combat with each other you train. what we decided as a conference was we've got that same kind of requirement in the future in the post-icef world for different threats so we have to use the same kind of momentum to continue to train together and we're looking to do that more as a regional approach with regional actors, with groups of countries working multi-lateral training and exercises versus the individual unilateral things that we've been doing for the last ten years. >> john milewski: general hertling, thank you for joining us today. >> lieutenant general mark hertling: thank you very much. thanks for having me. >> john milewski: i wi