the international committee of the red cross can transfer the representation to the of the relevant icjukraine and thus e-e ukraine receives information, keeps records of military personnel who are currently under the control of an enemy state, therefore such access is very important because in fact very often it is the only reliable source regarding how many people are received, in what condition they are in which under the conditions they are in captivity, therefore, the actions aimed at preventing representatives of the icj from visiting prisoners of war are a gross violation of the geneva conventions, respectively, a gross violation of international law, vitaliy, one more question. russia calls the withdrawal of the ukrainian military from the azov sea a capitulation . at the moment, as i already mentioned, they have the status of prisoners of war. that means that they are, in fact, without weapons, they agreed to be given such a specific status with the further aim of transferring them to the motherland, and as i at the beginning noted that this is indeed an obligation under intern

committed, it is absolutely critical that organizations like the icc, like the prosecutor's office, the icj and others, be empowered to investigate and hold countries accountable. >> in a positive turn of events. russia was suspended from the human rights council last month. but china remains on the council despite carrying out a genocide against the uyghurs. and i know that i don't need to remind you that it is the official position of the united states that china is committing genocide against the uyghurs in xinjiang province, a muslim minority. why should china remain on the council if russia is off? >> look, we've been clear on china that human-rights violations and genocide is being committed against the uyghurs in xinjiang. and we have a number of other members on the human rights council whose credibility is questionable. and this is something, as we lo at the future of reform of the human rights council, that we need to look at how to address those issues. the fact that we were able to -- to suspend russia from the human rights council, i think probably puts some concerns on on the

the second is the icj and u.k. is claiming russia has been manipulating with the very notion of genocide to cover up its own crimes because they insist we do commit genocide against russians and so on. and the third track is that our president is now strong saying we have to launch a special case. we don't want to rush it. they only cover crimes of genocide, war crimes and crimes against humanity. this is a legal base pushing for. >> we're also following closely this trial today, a 21-year-old russian soldier standing trial in ukraine for allegedly killing an unarmed -- a 62-year-old unarm ukrainian civilian. the fact this trial is happening while the war is still ongoing, do you believe that it could deter some russian soldiers from perhaps making a similar move if they were faced with that? >> absolutely. because i think that ukrainian people are brave, and i think the whole world has been amazed at this bravery. but russian soldiers, those conscripted to the russian army and some are hostages because if they ref

is working with different players in the sphere to include the icc, and the icj, the u.n. be brought. but some folks question whether these folks will ever be brought to trial. but it depends on the political context and what happens in russia. and i wouldn't say that it's, you know, easy to predict at this point in time that either will or will not happen. but i think we need to exhaust every avenue and seek accountability and hope that one day it will happen. >> do you think that sweden and finland and their effort to join nato will impact this and push it in a positive direction for accountability? >> well, i don't know what it will do for accountability, but i do think that the fact that sweden and finland have now formally applied for nato membership, this imposes another cost, if you will, on vladimir putin. who clearly went into this war thinking that he could get away with this with some marginal increase in sanctions. and that western unity would quickly dissipate. instead, he's got finland and sweden joining nato. he's got the u.s. boarding the eastern flank with