c-span: who is david icke? >> guest: it's actually david icke. c-span: icke? oh. >> guest: yeah. c-span: looked like icke. >> guest: he could -- you could pronounce it icke. c-span: i-c-k-e. >> guest: uh-huh. he was a bbc sports personality. c-span: really was? >> guest: uh-huh. oh, household name in britain. and he announced in 1991 that he was the son of god. and this had never happened before, so it became a... c-span: where -- where did he announce this? >> guest: oh, on the terry wogan chat show on the bbc. c-span: just one day said, "i am the son of god." >> guest: yeah. and in britain, this was a big splash. it's kind of like geraldo suddenly announcing he's the son of god. it would become a big deal. c-span: do you know anything we don't know? is it -- is that an announcement coming? (laughter) >> guest: i'm not sure! but david icke said, "not only am i the son of god, but the world is about to be destroyed by cataclysmic earthquakes and tidal waves and floods." and what i thought was interesting back in the '90s is that, ok, we were amazed and laughing. but a little bit

harold ickes, she writes about it obliquely. she says, she did not like to criticize fdr even after his death but she said she thought it was a rare failure of political judgment on fdr's part that he did it but harold ickes road in his diary angrily that frances perkins was trying to oppose the court packing plant. >> we have another question. >> at the back of the room you had mentioned that there were some things that were cut from the budget that you had written so much more and without pointing figures by guest at doubleday. would you like to do that? >> i think much of the fault is my own. the book kiai, the original book i wrote what had been in 900 page book, too long, too long but frances perkins had done so much. she has done as much as many presidents, was as a bald and has many things. we were trying to find places to cut. her personal life is very interesting. we have only talked about it a little bit but her personal life was very interesting and we thought would that be more appealing to a broader audience to hear