that iclined to say uld not want them in appellate court chambers. >> it would be good for the american public to see what is going on in there. i do not know how long they would be interested in what goes on in appellate argument. not so -- it does not rivet your attention, except perhaps the cases that have amount ofremendous publicity. but i see no reason why the american public should not have access to the court. >> my view on that is i do not see any problem with having proceedings televised. i think it would be good for the public. inat that time, i voted favor, in the judicial conference, of experiencing with television in the courtroom. that has been carried out. the results of that are being evaluated. in the federal system. particular appeals court was not part of the experiment, but not one of willingness, because they can only have a small number to that of the circumstance in which i think my vote in favor of the experiment was right, as of this moment. >> i had the opportunity to deal with this issue in reaction -- in relation to my own court. all of the courts of appeals