if it's very low, we get the icm fees. it's not a fee per class attendance. i will let you ask questions or add your comments since is you participated in most of the meetings. >> are there kaiser representative here today? >> >> yeah. >> i just want to say publically that while it was dredgeary going through page by page, cell by cell, all the details for going through with us, i wanted to commend you for doing it. there is questions to be raised by employers and yourself, but the fact that you took it with clarity and commitment is commended. we thank you for doing it. we started in a vast place trying to understand what it is you are doing and why you did it and we came out of it with a little bit more clarity. my great hope is that your systems and efforts in the systems which we phrase with you will indeed take route in the organization and make continuing commitment to pursue tracking, analyzing an confirming not just because volume driven but there is actual data behind the volume that says for our organization this needs to be done. but i wanted to sa