the icrc was able to go in and look at attending conditions and they had an opportunity to enter high-value detainees. that information was leaked to the public in 2009. ,o, we have this underground doing these things on the dark side and keeping the program secret. this is in direct contrast to what we then did during the same era with saddam hussein. on march 19 of 2003, we entered into a war with iraq, we brought tens of thousands of ground in theto the country attempt to find saddam hussein and remove him from power. practices there may have been questionable, it's a much more visible and much more traditional method of trying to go after an individual . the use similar methods to find -- a process of network analysis whereby they began to figure out the relationships among different peoples and different families in iraq to pinpoint where saddam hussein was. he realized that his greatest weakness could ultimately be his ties to his family, to his friends. people are apprehended who are trying to hide from accountability, it's often this little slip where they get more complacent or the