and tourism, whether they are education services for example, or technology sectors like biotech and ict. so you put all that together, really the story thatis emerging is one about a new economic model that has be formed. >>sager: under your stewardship kazanah has also invested increasingly abroad including into china and into india. what impact did the economic growth of these two powerhouses have on malaysia and its externaloutlook? >>mokhtar: we have taken a very measured view of gradually regionalizing and currently about 15% of our portfolio is invested directly abroad, principly in the asean region, including both singapore and indonesia as well as china and india. india, we have gotten into health care and into infrastructure, our companies have been building airports and roads. into china actually we have made some investments into the retail sector, thats turned our very well. so these are all good natural kind of linkages, bearing in mind this whole culturally you know malaysia is a multiethnic nation with a very large, oneof the largest concentration of people of chinese des