and there was a delegation from where ida b. welles lived, and she came along, and she was all prepared to march with them, but washington, d.c. is in a southern part of the country, and so the organizers approached and said to the black women who were going to be part of it, including mary church terrill and the newly formed delta sigma theta sorority that they would not be able to walk alongside, that they would have to march in the back behind the parade, and it was a segregated parade, so they would not offend those legislators, those people in washington, d.c. who could not fathom having an interracial march. because jim crow was still very much in force. so ida b. welles was not -- didn't go with that. she was not going to be marching towards the back. she didn't join the march when the delegation of her state moved out at first, but when they came by, she slipped on in and marched right along with them. and mary church terrill took another route of compliance. they did march in the back of the parade. but what that story shows,

alan: yeah, in particular for ida b. wells, she waited along the side along pennsylvania avenue for the illinois delegation to walk past and she joined them. she was warmly welcomed by her white colleagues. alice paul was dealing with -- i think what she felt would be a poor response especially from southern elected officials in congress who had the responsibility for ratifying the women's suffrage bill amendment and i think that was uppermost in her mind in how she responded to the presence of african-american women in that march. ajena: choices made in the moment. alan: beatrice jones is asking, is the century-old rgb universal flag a permanent fixture in all aaam museums and if not, why not? is it in the woodson site? do you have black flag vendors to maintain your flag needs over time? i guess that is a question for ajena. vedet and vedet: i can answer that quickly from my end. i would need to ask our members. there is a permanent collection and a temporary collection. i would need to ask them how it is being preserved, if

ida b. wells. put that in your notebook. vedet, coming back to you, i see similarities between what you are doing now with the association of african american museums and the work that dr. carter woods did in 1915, getting out the journal of negro history and establishing black history month. what are your priorities for using the museum community to highlight african-american history, african-american culture, the african-american experience? tie that to voting rights but anything else you are working on at this point to make people more aware. you have a moment right now. vedet: thank you. for us, it is really about education. much like the doctor, it is about educating folks, making sure that they know their stories. some people, as much as we, as scholars, would love to say, did you read this book, that book, some people want to do the tangible things such as go to a museum. i did not know until i went to x, y, and z museum and sometimes i am astonished but other times i am like, that is what we are here for, we are here

ida b. wells did not go with that, she was not going to be marching towards the back, she did not join the march won the delegation of her stayed moved out at first. when they came by she slipped on in and months ride along with them. mary church cheryl took another route of compliance, they did march in the back of the parade. what's that story shows to all of us

courageous women like ida b wells. its talk to us about it's like a huned years ago. it feels like a huned years ago. escially when you see photos. they're very antique like. this is just something i have to you have to lrn to understand the history. it may very will inspire those kids. they are gonna make them fee that no matter what is standi in their way. they can also create change i the world. especially a year like this year. e state of affairs of our couny so much social unrest. am sure that there are parents explaining t their kids why there had bee protests in every state of the country. all of these issues are directly tie with the suffrage movement. the movements did not happen in a vacuum. you find it easier to expla to the child. and she went around and documented race. if it ieasier. i have not had to explain this to a child yet. this is what is going o th is how it is tied to the protest that you see on tv today. it's not so great. theyot the right to vote and that's it. it's all tied together. the stories of t women who tried their best and did the bes

. >> ida b. wells, really wonderful person. she was born in memphis about 1862. her parents were certainly slaif slaves. she might have been born just before slavery was abolished. she -- as was the case with so many of these families of former slaif slaves, they were determined that their children would get education. she came a teacher, then a journalist, and she took it upon herself to begin a campaign to expose the epidemic of violent lynchings going on all over the south. she was inspired to do this because close friends of hers were lynched in memphis. she begins to investigate this. she's an investigative reporter. she goes all the over the south, and finds out that the charges against black, mostly men but a few women, that is leading to their being lynched is really a cover for resentment among white southerners for the fact that these -- this generation of black people is beginning to leave behind the burden of slavery. they're beginning to make gains, especially economically, and the friends of hers who are lynched were running a grocery store that whi

with this older generation of white women involved in abolition but then you have other people ida b wells pushing a different agenda tubman manages to walk the line between them. she's connected to white suffragists as well as new black women movement pushing for the right to vote from a different angle. >> one of the last photograph of her that people are used to seeing, she was attending from what we understand, one of the meetings, right? >> she attended meetings from the 1860s almost until her death, close to her death. she was still super involved, this is a woman who at this time, has moved to living a home, basical a home to the elderly but she helped create, she's building homes for those who have been formally enslaved, didn't have a social network to help them as they grew der. one thing we have to remember i that she was poor most of her life. she struggled financially and understood this was the fate that most forlly enslaved people that with and she wanted to make certain that they would li or die in digty. creating a home for black people and a moment where there is no socia

particular for ida b. wells, she waited along the side for the illinois delegation to walk past and she joined them. she was welcomed by her white colleagues. alice paul was dealing with -- i think what sheath -- what she felt would be a poor response from southern elected officials in congress who had the responsibility for ratifying the women's suffrage bill amendment and i think that was uppermost in her mind and how she responded to the presence of african-american women in that march. asking, is theis century-old rgb universal flag a aaamnent fixture in all museums and if not, why not? have black flag vendors to maintain your flag needs over time? i can answer that quickly from my end. i would need to ask our members they would -- members. there is a permanent collection and a temporary collection. how it need to ask them is being preserved and i can get that back to you. i do not have the answer right now because each collection is specific to our members. me, with the national sites, we just have our unit

so, ida b. wells was not, did not go with that. she was not going to be marching towards the back, and she did not join the march when the delegation of her state moved out at first, but when they came by she slipped on and. and marched right along with them. -- took another route of compliance. they did march in the back of the parade. but what that story exposed, and i hope it shows all of us, that there are individual and different approaches to segregation and issue. we are not a monolith, when we react. joseph, angel talking about snake and scl see. different approaches to try and reach the same goal. some ways, sometimes it will work depending on who you are and with the situation is. we have to take time to look at how all of those things come together. not condemn one-way, or uplift another way just because. you have to take in the full context understand what's happening. and so the stories will help us see that we are in our own situation today, it's all right. to take different approaches. depending on what's happening.

ida b. wells did not go with that, she was not going to be marching towards the back, she did not join the march won the delegation of her stayed moved out at first. when they came by she slipped on in and months ride along with them. mary church cheryl took another route of compliance, they did march in the back of the parade. what's that story shows to all of us, there are individual and different approaches to segregation. when we react, does a fiend, you are talking about significant as tlc. different approaches to reach the same goal. sometimes it will work, depending on who you are and what the situation is. we need to take time to look at how all those things come together at how all of those things come together, not condemn one way or another way. you have to take in the full context to understand what was happening. so these stories will help us see when we are in our own situation today, it is all right to take different approaches, depending on what was happening at the time. >> thank

the stories of ida b. wells burnett and mary hurl.y favorite, mattie, hopefully we will be able to use her as an example to open up these stories that we were telling in the commemoration this year. the intersection of race and gender is very critical to talk about when we are talking about suffrage. suffrage involve civil rights as well as political rights. second point that we wanted to make sure we got across is that the struggle, which continues for decades after the 1920 amendment was passed. it was guided by class and race and religion, as i mentioned. the right to vote, as you mentioned, joseph in, was restricted for black women in particular, and black men as well. literacy, testing grandfather clock, and others outside, just a question of whether you are a citizen or not. these were part of the stories of the park service wanted to make sure we told in our commemoration this year. we knew that we had to use a variety of means to get those story across. you can go to mbs .gov and see the website about the 19 amendment and the

ida b. wells, the journalist, social scientist anti suffrage activist and suffragists was also named checked by kamala harris. there is mary cobb the thin of florida who i have introduced. diane nash who was on senator harris is list. the architect of this summer campaign. a woman who worked tires loosely and courageously through the fall philosophy of nonviolence to strategically went for black americans many of the civil war rights victories that we associate with that era including the voting rights act. fanny from mississippi, whose grassroots organizing, and unparalleled courage in the state of mississippi brought her before news cameras today both still and moving including in 1964 during that year's democratic national convention when -- decried that convention and those who had seat eight mississippi delegation that had failed to get there by the scent of black voters in the state. for any who haim are looking to upturn the social order, racial, order political order in mississippi and acr

ida b. wells, the journalist, social scientist, anti-suffragette activists and suffragette was also name-checked by kamala harris. there was maggie cog bethune of florida, who i've introduced. diane nash was on senator harris' list. the architect of the selma campaign and woman who worked untiringly and courageously through the philosophy of nonviolence to strategically win for black americans many of the civil rights victories that we associate with that era, including that of the voting rights act. fannie lou hamer from mississippi, whose grassroots organizing and unparalleled courage in the state of mississippi, brought her before news cameras, both still and moving, including in 1964 during that year's democratic national convention, when hamer decried that convention and those who would see a mississippi delegation that failed to get there by the ascent of black voters in the state. fannie lou hamer looking to upturn the social order, the racial order, the political order in mississippi and a

ida b wells, wb two boys -- w.e.b. dubois and others met. there were a group of whites who issue of mobat the violence and race riots, if that wasn't addressed, we couldn't be the democracy we could be. toy asked a group of blacks meet in new york and that was the establishment of the naacp. as a result, we took on our mission and that mission is advocacy, to impact the formation of public policy, understanding it is through public policy that change can happen, that racial hatred is more about structures then it is about individual behaviors because structures can influence individual behaviors or put guardrails in place. the first major campaign was antilynching legislation, giving the federal government the authority to go into local jurisdictions to investigate, prosecute, and convict individuals involved because the there were too many during restrictions -- jurisdictions where local law enforcement was involved in public lynchings. after this, there was a campaign in response to the release of a movie called "birth of a nation," recogn

she's the co-founder of ida b. wells society and she's got happy hair this morning. your hair is telling the story of you right now and how you feel? >> hey, ali, so great to see you. what a remarkable week it's been and what a remarkable moment we're in. as you know, this year is the 100th anniversary of women's suffrage, the 150th anniversary of the 15th amendment that granted the franchise to black men and voters have overcome so many obstacles, pandemic, closing down of polling places, mail, make it possible to see the first woman, who is also a black woman, southeast asian woman elected by a multiracial coalition that speaks to america at its greatest potential. >> we think of dates as firm and solid, certain dates in america. i started the show saying it's october 8th, that's an error, it was november 8th. i wasn't trying to rewrite history. you actually have been rewriting history a little bit. you started to occupy space in the president's head. they really hated the idea. i thought it was remarkable you introduced me to the date as 1619 when african-american

you're seeing a portrait of ida b. wells and on the right madam c.j. walker who by some people's estimates was the wealthiest self-made woman in america at the end of world war i. both of these women were prevented from going to paris by the state department. but there were other african-american women who were able to go or who were already in paris who made a mark on unfolding events there. two of whom i feature in my book. on the left you're looking at the 1919 passport of feminist sufficie sufferage ridgist. they shared ma of the same goals of them. but who also, once she got to paris, realized that she was the only woman of color from anywhere in the world who was invited to be a delegate at that conference. so she spent much of her time in europe trying to persuade white international feminists to make racial justice an sbintegral pa of their demand for women's rights and human rights at the moment of the peace settlement and moving forward. the other woman whom you see on the screen in that blurry photograph there, she's seated in the front with

one of the most, you know, under-recognized of whom is ida b. wellsblack american engaging in a moral outcry against lynching. >> reporter: joining the activists back then? those atop the polarized society who began to think twice. >> chastened elites. people who had this realization that america was going off the rails, and that they had played a part in shaping the underlying values that had created that deeply unappealing situation that they found themselves in. >> reporter: people much like bob putnam himself. being up here, the "we should all get together guy," who bemoans the fact that we're bowling alone, do you feel guilty that you're sequestered and protected? >> well, i do, of course, because of the implications for inequality. the average income of people here along the pond is probably $300,000 or $400,000 a year. the average income of the people 400 or 500 yards back is probably $25,000 or $30,000 a year? forget about the virus-- the degree of inequality embedded in my life-- this is just not fair. i mean, at some level, that fairness is

i'm thinking about ida b. wells and ella baker and she has an enormous wind at her back. politicians are only as good as our demands and expectations. we should not assume that joe biden is the savior kamala harris is a savior but we can celebrate this moment and prepare ourselves for the difficult and challenging work that will begin tomorrow and the next day. but i'm going to enjoy this and you're right. i have to deal with those howard bisons. oh my goodness. what a day. >> i know. it's not even started yet. we have to gird for that. and it's a -- all kidding aside, it is a big time for hsbcus and something we heard people volunteering in interviews. claire, indeed, hasn't it been pleasantly surprising to hear so many of the folks in interviews talk about kamala harris, talk about sounds like she was a huge part of their voting motivation? >> first, i think it's really mean to make me go after eddie today. he brought tears to my eyes. >> sorry. >> yeah. it is just not fair. eddie is so good at wrapping up history and the emotion of a moment and that's what this is and

so on the left of course you're seeing a portrait of ida b. wells, the famous anti-lynching crusader and feminist. and on the right madam c.j. walker, who by some people's estimates was the wealthiest self-made woman in america at the end of world war i. both of these women tried to go to paris but were prevented from doing so by the american state department. but there were other african-american women who were able to go or who were already in paris who made a mark on unfolding events there, two of whom i feature in my book. on the left you're looking at the 1919 passport of feminist suffragist and civil rights activist mary church terrell who was invited to go to europe by jane adams and the pacifist women and who shared many of the same goals as them but who also once she got to paris realized she was the only woman of color from anywhere in the world who had been invited to be a dell gatd at that conference in zurich. so she spent much of her time in europe trying to persuade white international feminists to make racial justice an integral part