>> well,iew is that the financial crisis, 2008, promulgated a political backlash that produced a lot of regulation in the financial services area. the discussion broadened from there and splattered over every regulatory agency in d.c. tone from the legislative branches and from the top was combative and was confrontational. so i think the first thing you've got to do is get over -- get through the financial services discussion which is a separate issue, a lot of risk came into our economy and needs to be addressed. then, like the president is doing, focus on manufacturing which i think is a little bit of a different animal. i think the fact that it's being looked at separately now gives us a chance to get into a more constructive dialogue because the dialogue with our regulators now tends to be more confrontational than it should be, more confrontational than it was designed to be. it's been politicized heavily. the nlrb case against us in south carolina was a sham. it was a sham. and it was something that an unconfirmed person in that agency promulgated on his own. it was something