someone at ifc said what do you think about doing this show, we went there, right away we were having a discussion on a pilot, turned into a series. >> didn't have to persuade them. >> in fact also contributed a lot. they had ideas. as opposed to us being what. it was their idea to say portlandia. kerry and i were like let's make it about our friendship. we got the director involved. >> it's all shot out there. takes about how long to do those episodes. >> all summer long. >> all she long. >> and then they edit it during the fall. >> has portland embraced you all. >> they have been great. >> you can look at it two ways. you can say this is a loving and very intimate way of presenting the quirks of this city or you are making fun of them. >> i would say a. >> i would say a, also, but i -- i say acertainly, too. but do the people in portland go are you making fun of us? >> there might be some people thinking that way, that's not the intent. we're -- it's about us. we're not that different from the characters. we don't even change our voices very much. when we do characters it's not like