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caller: yes, and i do not wonder if there will be a taping of him speaking and i am sure there was ifcr four. maybe you can put that on after it happens. host: if we have access we can do that. if they will give us access. caller: my last point is that he is trying to protect the united states to remain sovereign. and that is it. thank you so much. host: steve in oak ridge, tennessee. democrat. good morning. caller: i am going to repeat what i have said the last five tides i have called in. i taught science for 31 years and my second class was on perception and what i would do is i would hold up a picture in front of the class and ask kids what they see. and they would say that is a human skull and i would say ok. and then i would have the kid sitting in the front and say that is not what it is for all. -- big mirror, and the tablecloth and the makeup and everything, but it looks like a school, but when you look at it closely, it absolutely is not a skull. that is what is happening now, people's perception is flawed and they're unwilling to look closely at what is going on. if the peop